Russia Defiles 9/11

The Other Russia translates a shocking bit of journalism from the Russian press.  Russia is defiling the sacred memory of the 9/11 tragedy with sick, perverted propaganda on state-controlled television. How would Russians like it if America returned the favor with similar broadcasts about Beslan and Dubrovka?  Here again is yet another heroic Russian willing to stand up for truth and sanity, risking all to do so. These are the Russians we adore, the country’s last, best hope.

An Open Order
Boris Sokolov
Grani.ru
9/15/08

“Zero: an investigation into 9/11,” a film by Italian journalist Giulietta Chiesa and his French colleague Thierry Meyssan, went practically unnoticed in the world. Its authors openly complained about this as they spoke on Channel One, hinting at machinations by America’s intelligence agencies. In Russia, on the other hand, the film was shown on TV on Friday evening, during prime-time – on the “Private Screening” program, which gave it an audience of many millions. In and of itself, this proves that the Cold War is in full swing, at least on Russian television. Mr. Chiesa laments that “the level of democracy in the world is very low. And with every year, it becomes lower and lower.” And that’s why the Italian departed for Russia in search of genuine democracy.

Chiesa and Meyssan’s basic thesis is that the September 11th terrorist attacks were organized by the Americans themselves, in order to justify limitations on democratic freedoms in America and the subsequent invasion of Iraq, and in order to stave off a crisis in the American economy. Almost all the participants in the discussion readily agreed with them. The debates only centered on who in particular among the Americans was behind the terrorist acts. Some insisted that it was the multi-national corporations and intelligence agencies, carrying out imperial designs, with the involvement of individuals within the administration, but not the highest ranks –not the President and not the Secretary of State. This resembled Soviet times, when all the problems in the world were blamed on American imperialists, presented as anonymous monopolies and equally anonymous senior officials in the CIA and the Pentagon. Presidents and Secretaries of State shouldn’t be directly offended, since negotiations have to be led with them. The second version consisted of the idea that President Bush was directly involved in the conspiracy behind September 11th. Well, I guess this shows the relative freedom of speech as compared with the communist era, and moreover, everyone knows that Bush is working his last months in the White House.

The film’s authors call on Dario Fo (presented in the credits as a Nobel laureate), as a leading expert of the explosions on September 11th. The overwhelming majority of Russian viewers will remain convinced that there is a distinguished scholar before them, who has knowledge about airplanes, explosions and fires. In actual fact, Dario Fo is an Italian playwright, who received a Nobel prize for literature in 1997 for “emulat[ing] the jesters of the Middle Ages in scourging authority and upholding the dignity of the downtrodden.” He appears before us as a descendant of jesters as well.

From a professional point of view, the film is made extremely primitively. It is based almost exclusively on “talking heads,” and presents only those witnesses and experts who criticize the official version, that the terrorist attacks were organized by Al-Qaeda, led by [Osama] bin Laden (several of them look to be mentally unbalanced). Along those same lines are the endless, mesmerizing repetitions of captions with the author’s theses. Testimony and evidence from adherents of the official version is not mentioned in any way in the film. This is roughly like taking only the testimonies showing the innocence of the defendants during the Nuremberg trial, and ignoring all the materials in the extensive file documenting their guilt.

It is interesting that both the film’s authors and the participants of the discussion [that followed], having spoken out against American globalism and defended the dignity of the downtrodden peoples, demonstrate a barefaced contempt to these same peoples. The theme of the discussion sounded like this: “How could these 19 arabs do something like this? They couldn’t even learn to operate a plane!” True, the main question then remains unanswered – who was at the helm of the planes that crashed into the twin-towers. Could it be true that CIA agents turned from through-and-through WASPs into fanatic-suicide bombers? Here, to Chiesa and Meyssan’s assistance came Geidar Dzhemal, a homegrown Islamist-conspiracy theorist, who proposes that the planes were controlled from the ground by expert hackers, who changed the autopilot program on the killing-planes. No one bothered to refute this delusion.

The films authors, and the organizers of the discussion sought to convince viewers that two realities are competing on equal terms in the world: the official and alternative versions of the events of September 11th. Proponents of both versions, they say, have their own arguments, and even in the hard science field, experts at times have directly opposite opinions. Therefore, they say, the choice between them is a matter of faith. The discussion moderator, Alexander Gordon, tried at the start to play to objectivity and the cooperative search for truth, but by the end, confessed frankly that he had long ago come to a firm conclusion that the American establishment was behind the September 11th tragedy, just like the other terrorist acts on US territory.

Proponents of the official version were chosen essentially from obedient sparring-partners, whose arguments amounted to saying that Chiesa and Meyssan’s version could not be truth simply because this would be intolerable from a ethical point of view: after all, if would imply that the US leadership would kill their own citizens for political gains. But here, director Vladimir Khotinenko, political analyst Vitaly Tretyakov, and other adherents of the American conspiracy theory immediately took the floor, assuring the viewers that for the American authorities to kill even thousands, even millions, was as easy as batting an eye.

Mr. Tretyakov put forth the thesis that the answer to the question of who profited from the September 11th terrorist attacks clearly pointed to the American government. The majority of the audience backed him enthusiastically. But no one did clarify what exactly the American advantage was. Maybe it was the need to hold a significant contingent of American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan for years to come? Or high oil prices, affecting the American economy in far from the best manner? If they really had some desire to figure out the reasons for the tragedy from the “who profited” principle, it would have been more logical to note that for Russia, the growth in energy prices which started after September 11th turned into a golden rain of petrodollars and the opportunity to demonstrate its solidarity with the US in the fight with international terrorism. Which for many years created the illusion of Russian-American partnership in the world. But we didn’t hear this kind of discussion.

Chiesa, Meyssan and their adherents propose the following circumstance as the main argument favoring their version of events. After September 11, 2001, there were no more terrorist attacks in the US. Which means that the American intelligence agencies were accessorial to the terrorist acts, while terrorists, Islamic or otherwise, do not have a real opportunity to perform such massive terrorist acts on American territory. But, following this absurd logic, one must come the following conclusions. Since there haven’t been any explosions of buildings in Moscow since September 1999, it means, that they were organized by the Russian intelligence agencies. Since after the “Nord-Ost” [theater siege] and Beslan [school takeover], there haven’t been any new seizures of hundreds of hostages, it means that those terrorist acts were also an inside job by the FSB.

At the end, the discussion smoothly turned to the present Russian-Georgian conflict. It was not in vain that President Medvedev recently said that for Russia, August 8th (the start of the war with Georgia) –was almost like September 11th for the US. Naturally, the assertions poured out, that the notion of Russian aggression against Georgia, spread through the Western world, was the results of the same kind of propaganda as the official version of the September 11th terrorist attacks. Meanwhile, the US, with Georgia’s help, in truth wants to engineer a new cold war, to solve its domestic and foreign problems. As result, the discussion closed with a hysterical call from one of the film’s authors, for Russia to defend the world from the American predators who are tearing the planet to pieces. A plea most insincere.

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32 responses to “Russia Defiles 9/11

  1. “But no one did clarify what exactly the American advantage was.”

    After 9/11 Bush and his warmongers in Washington and Langley saw it fit to use the tragedy to seize Iraq’s and Central Asia’s oil through Afghanistan. Using the 9/11 attacks Bush expected unconditional support for the bloody “war on terror”. I’m hoping Sokolov’s just kidding about doubting that Osama Bin Laden perpetrating the 9/11 attacks. He admitted to it after the invasion of Afghanistan. He basically put bait on a hook, and Bush being the dumb fish that he is bit the hook and was reeled in.

  2. There will always be clowns in the world. And so there will always be circuses where they can perform.

  3. This film was also recently profiled on the BBC.

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS: Link?

  4. google chiesa…. Pro-soviet, communist. Therefore anti-American for decades. Hardly an objective observer!

    Wake up everyone – there is still a communist threat to Western liberal democracy, even if they have thrown off some (all?) of their old clothes. If the KGB can do it, who says THEY won’t be back too, perhaps in a slightly different form so we don’t notice it at first.

    This is an example of just that.

    Profiled on the BBC? My goodness! We need to keep alert.

    Professional journalist since 1981; Moscow correspondent, first of all, for ‘L’Unità’ (1980) then for ‘La Stampa’ (1990); Fellow of the Wilson Center of Washington – Kennan Institute for advanced Russian Studies (1989-1990).
    Member of the National Secretariat of the FGCI – Italian Communist Youth Federation (1968-1970); member of the secretariat of the PCI – Federation of Genoa (1971-1979).
    PCI group leader on the Provincial Council of Genoa (1975-1979).
    National Vice-Chairman of the UGI – Union goliardica Italian (1967-1968).

    Meanwhile Thierry Meyssan is notorious for his crackpot 9/11 theories which have made him something of a hero in the Arab world. He even believes Beslan was a CIA operation. The French newspaper Liberation called his 9/11 book “The Frightening Confidence Trick … a tissue of wild and irresponsible allegations, entirely without foundation.”

    Enough said.

  5. Giulietto Chiesa is even studied in Moscow for his rare specialty to describe America as the devil’s personification on earth.
    Well, in fact, who was one of the two Italian “members” participating to Valdai Club this year?
    I suppose he was invited there to teach advanced conspiracy theories to mr. Putin, who looks like a schoolboy if compared to Giuletto Chiesa.

    It Italy that documentary never was aired and people are well aware that Giulietto’s arguments on 9/11 are pure ufology.

  6. The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.JohnSteinbeckJohn Steinbeck, Cannery Row

  7. Here is an interesting article (http://www.kasparov.ru/material.php?id=48CAD1E85D5E0) where Irina Gagloeva, South Ossetia’s propaganda minister, talks about how she came up with the 2,000 dead civilians. Here’s an extract (sorry, in Russian again):

    “К обеду 9 числа нам удалось созвониться с нашими населенными пунктами. Появилась информация о массовых расстрелах, о конкретных убитых, – рассказала Гаглоева, – например, мне звонят и говорят – у нас угнали 200 человек, чтобы расстрелять. Понятно, что я не видела этих людей, но мне звонит глава сельсовета, и я беру и плюсую эти 200 человек. Поступает информация с юга, где в четырех подвалах также были расстреляны люди. Спрашиваю: сколько? Тоже называют цифру – около 200 человек. И к началу 10-го числа по подсчетам оказалось около 1200-1300 человек. К этому времени начинается массовый отъезд людей по Зарской дороге. Она с 9 по10 была под массированным обстрелом, там тоже погибло примерно 100-150 человек”.

    Гаглоева добавила при этом, что если и ошиблась с подсчетами, то неумышленно: “Когда “Град” стреляет, ты не знаешь, подвергнуть сомнению цифру или нет. Уже потом я понимаю, что человек, который мне звонил и видел, как сельчан вели, не мог знать, сколько там человек – двести или нет. И слава богу, если их оказалось не двести”. На мой вопрос о списках она ответила, что они составляются и будут обнародованы только по завершении расследования прокуратуры. Так что изначально называвшееся осетинами количество погибших – около двух тысяч человек – надо рассматривать скорее как своеобразный призыв о помощи, а не как точные данные. Но вот российское руководство, на официальном международном уровне озвучивавшее те же цифры, очевидно, преследовало совсем другие цели.

  8. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/frontrow/past_programmes.shtml

    “9/11 conspiracy theory films

    A new film out this week, Zero: An Investigation into 9/11, gives a detailed account of holes in the theory about the 9/11 hijackings. The internet is full of conspiracy theories about events that day, including another film Loose Change: Final Cut. Mark Lawson brings together the films’ directors Francesco Trento and Tim Sparke to question their version of events.

    Zero: An Investigation into 9/11 is showing at selected cinemas across the country, and opens in London on Thursday. “

  9. I’m an artist. Artists make mistakes.VittorioDeSicaVittorio De Sica, Italian actor and filmmaker, regarding A Place for Lovers, 1969

  10. One of my friends, Ronald Rubin, was killed in the tragedy. I would like to know, how is it “defiling” the memory of victims by seeking the truth of the real cause? The reason there are so many conspiracy theories on the internet is because the official investigation was shut down before it even got off the ground. Many of the victims’ families did not what the payoff money but rather wanted to know who was truly responsible. The US media never even brought up this issue – it took a b-grade documentary in Russia to get air-time. This is a commentary itself on the true state of the controlled media in the US. It is a matter of fact that thousands of US professionals are continuing to sign petitions in the hope of an unhindered investigation. The truly defiled ones are the one’s who obstruct the free investigation of truth.

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS: There are people who are “continuing” to claim that we never visited the moon, too. It’s defiling because as the Russian author points out it is full of lies and misrepresentations.

  11. Rick – free investigation of the truth is one thing. But can you really expect objectivity from a film made by a man who has a 30+ year history as an anti-American communist who thinks per se that the USA, because it is the largest capitalist nation on earth, is the secular equivalent of the Great Satan? If nothing else, the fact that he backed Marx in the dying decades of the USSR should be enough to show that he has the intelligence of a snail.

  12. I don’t doubt that the producer of the Russian conspiracy film is unqualified, misinformed, 100% biased or even a complete nut job. My point was that an alternative view of what transpired on 9/11/2001 was never aired in the US. If you look into it with an open mind you will see that there are many, many unanswered questions. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to believe a man can land on the moon. And one does not have to be a building engineer to see someting peculiar about two buildings being hit and three falling down, not haphazardly but in a perfect free fall without resistance. I signed a petition, along with 2,500 architects and engineering professionals who don’t buy it and want more answers…I don’t know about you, but for me it seems a little odd that G. Bush felt it was more important to read a children’s story in a school classroom rather than take measure to stop the collisions…that he had foreknowledge that terrorists were planning to use planes as weapons…that lines of investigation into the CIA were closed as was basically the whole investigation against the will of the families of the victims. To me that is also a great tragedy. The media in Russia is obviously controlled but the controlled media in the US is not so obvious. I am wary of anyone against free and open investigations, even if they present themselves as open-minded and intelligent bloggers.

  13. At the site, 9-11 Research, there is a long list of the anomalies of 9/11, which are very eye opening:(911research.wtc7.net/sept11)

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS: Some people also think there are “anomolies” in reports about the moon landing, indicating we never actualy went there, and in the assasination of JFK, indicating a vast conspiracy. Some people think UFOs landed in New Mexico and the government is keeping little green men in underground bunkers.

    But that doesn’t make any of it true.

  14. Отвечу
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    Открылся портал школы российского частного права.
    Приглашаем всех заинтересованных в образовании, новостях в сфере права, а так же тех, кто заинтересован в повышении своей квалификации!
    Дискуссии, новости, консультации и многое другое!
    законопроекты 7h
    1999 2z Законопроекты

  15. Here are some more anomalies…care of your own site: “September 1999 – An apartment building in the Pechatniki neighborhood of Moscow is blown up by a bomb. 94 are killed. Less than a week later a second bomb destroys a building in Moscow’s Kashirskoye neighborhood, killing 118. Days after that, a massive contingent of Russian soldiers is surrounding Chechnya as public opposition to the war evaporates. On October 1st, Putin declares Chechen president Aslan Maskhadov and his parliament illegitimate. Russian forces invade.” Article: “The Putin Murders” – Author unknown…maybe La Russaphobe. What did the pot call the kettle?

  16. This reminds me of that Micheal Moore movie, it wasn’t intended for the people that had direct access to the investigation. It was directed at people with a narrow view, and confirmed their worst suspicions.

    It doesn’t matter that it was all BS, what mattered was that it created an emotional response.

    Rick Warden, what exactly would have been your course of action upon hearing of the attacks? Would you have taken the advice of the secret service, and bedded down in a bunker, or would you have ripped off your suit to reveal a superman t-shirt and make a dramatic exit through the ceiling? Possibly exposing the children to asbestos or fiberglass.

    Really, would you want to panic those children by dramatically excusing yourself, or would you try to keep them calm, and assured.

    That is the very reason that you appoint people you can trust, to make decisions in your absence.

  17. By the way, the controlled media in the US is not controlled by (W). Are you saying that since the “Peoples media” couldn’t find anything, than the Russian “Peoples media” should step in?

  18. “The media in Russia is obviously controlled but the controlled media in the US is not so obvious.”

    So what you are saying is that Walter Cronkite, the man who won/lost vietnam was unbiased.

    The “Controlled Media” in the US is anti-US.

    I’m having trouble designating you as a fellow-traveler, or a usefull-idiot.

    Never mind, I’ve made my designation.

  19. (La Russophobe – Is there any reason have not posted my reply to Seanquixote on your blog?)

    Seanquixote – Suitable name – Cervantes’s character was known for naiveté wasn’t he? You seem to know more about Superman than the president, but don’t feel bad, you’re not the only one. The greatest known lie of the Bush league to date is that they didn’t know of Osama bin Laden’s imminent plans to use passenger planes as live missiles to attack high profile US targets, as leaked by CBS reporter David Martin in 2002. This was incredibly condemning for a number of reasons (just a few here): 1) Why weren’t terrorist suspects shadowed and apprehended? …They were shadowed but somehow allowed to go free. 2) Why were there no fighter jets available on the entire East Coast, if necessary, if other means, such as remote control systems (designed in the 70’s in case of terrorism) in the passenger planes were not available? …Many fighter jets were actually sitting on the tarmac. 3) Why weren’t the pre-tragedy put options (stock trades) on American and United airlines found and examined? …They were found but then destroyed, why?…Because the trail led to the CIA. The government, which, it seems, should have been the main focus of investigations, was shielded in the name of “national security” in the ultimate hypocrisy. The ugliness of this thought is too much for the average American to stomach. If you can handle it, read about it:
    http://www.inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=340_0_1_0_C, http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/911bush.html#note, http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/illegaltades.html

    BTW, from what you wrote, I think Dick Cheney is more your style of a traveling companion. You can read about his leaked plans for beginning war with Iran here: http://www.infowars.com/?p=3711&cp=all

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS: See the comment publication guidelines in our header.

  20. Oh you mean Walter Cronkite, I always wondered who superman really was.

    The conspiracy theorist side of the don better suits you.

    The side of don that realized the the war is not over, and there are people that will throw illusions in an attempt to distract you better describes me.

    Then there is the gay don, that is definitely you.

  21. …more personal insults. Is that all you’ve got? Weak. The financial 9/11 coming will make the physical 9/11 look like a bankers holiday. Do you know who is just drooling, waiting for this to happen? Read my article “Barreling Towards Babylon” at my templestream blogspot blog.

  22. I can understand anomolies, but what I can’t understand is why aliens would favor the US and England over the USSR. I can, but then again, I thought that socialism was the apex of human civilization, like the lord of the flies.

    I think the conspiracy theory is actually more realistic than true life. Congratulations Russia for making yourselves completely irrelevant. I will throw you a party when the aliens show up.

  23. Seannaiveté – Ever heard of Operation Northwoods? Probably not…”The plan called for CIA or other operatives to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba.” Lets see who the, well, hmmm, “aliens” were then…It was drafted by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by then Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defence. Declassified after 40 yrs, this official plan was first published online in 1998. Yep, them there aliens can be pretty crafty can’t they Seanny?

  24. Sean, for your own health, ignore Warden. He is so far gone in lala land that he is beyond hope. Maybe his mother can coax him out of his basement with some lasagna and get that tinfoil hat off. Meanwhile, he is working on exposing the Jerimiah “God Damn America” Wright theory of the CIA poisoning the US black community with drugs and AIDS.
    The 9/11 consipracies have been debunked many times, most famously by Popular Mechanics http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html (an unbiased scientific magazine) not to mention the CNN (and every other news source) video, Pentagon security cameras, phone calls from UA93, and many other sources.

    Some people are just delusional.

  25. Oooo Popular Mechanics, the paragon of research integrity. Let me see, 25-year-old
    Benjamin Chertoff, the author and “senior researcher” at Popular Mechanics happens to be the cousin of Michael Chertoff new Secretary of US Homeland “Security.” How I love independent journalism, Don’t you Oleg? The article calls itself “conclusive” and yet there has never actually been an open investigation. Whatever happened to the scientific method?

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/chertoff_cousin_penned_pop_mech_hit_piece.htm

  26. When a truly independent journalist Christopher Bollyn investigates 9/11, he is beaten up by intelligence agents. If you can’t beat em – beat em up. …Kind of reminds me of another country I hear a lot about.

  27. Oleg, I appreciate your concern, but this is for my amusement.

    Rick Warden, “My point was that an alternative view of what transpired on 9/11/2001 was never aired in the US.”

    Which alternate view, I thought Micheal Moore was the only alternate view, or are you trying to tell me that there is more bullshit.

  28. Christopher Bollyn, isn’t that naked man? I know him, he’s the guy that makes a sign with his income that is miraculously(every year) under the minimum deductable for income earners.

    That is hard evidence if I have ever seen it.

  29. Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11” is as much about racism, war problems and voting problems. It’s hard to make a dedicated documentary when most important facts are being covered up. As with Operation Northwoods, (See October 22 reply), we may know much later, or never. Bush summed up his attitude in a 2007 interview: “You can’t possibly figure out the history of the Bush presidency — until I’m dead.” I find it fascinating that people have made up their minds without the slightest interest in knowing what is being covered up. This past June airlines were refused the right by the government to interview five FBI agents in a legal defense issue, why? It may “cause serious damage to national security.” HELLO – That’s the reason they NEED to be interviwed, the “national security” didn’t work and we want to know why! US agents Mark Rossini and Douglas Miller were obstructed before 9/11 and still are being obstructed from letting the truth out. Are you the least bit interested in what they have wanted to reveal?

  30. Rick Warden, Investigative Researcher, have you ever heard of operation warlock. Didn’t think so.

    Bill Clinton decided that the Iranians weren’t advancing in thier quest to achieve nukes fast enough, so he gave them flaweded blueprints for warheads, which were quickly corrected by Russian scientists.

    Why don’t you investigate this? Jackass.

  31. Now, now, you seem a bit frustrated. Thanks for your comment. There seems to be a lack of something…oh yeah, substance! No need to write reply. Have a great day!

  32. If the CIA, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse or whoever had wanted to think up a reason for invading Iraq etc etc they would surely have dreamed up a simpler plan than 9/11. Such as – oh, i don’t know, surreptitiously placing large quantities of explosives in public buildings (!)
    I don’t necessarily go along with the Putin murders theory but compared to the nonsense by publicity seekers like Chiesa they are a sure fire bet.

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