The Craven Obamaniacs, Complicit in Dictatorship

David J. Kramer, writing in the Washington Post:

After opposition protests in Russia were violently suppressed in May, July and August, spokesmen for the National Security Council and the State Department expressed “concern” and “regret” that Russian authorities were not respecting the freedom of assembly. During the May 31 crackdown, one journalist who days before had interviewed NSC Russia expert Michael McFaul had his arm broken. When McFaul and Undersecretary of State William Burns met with a group of human rights activists and others this month in Moscow, longtime activist Lev Ponomaryov was notably absent. He had been arrested for giving an interview critical of the mayor of Moscow during which he allegedly “stepped on the foot of a militia officer.” Burns lamely called it “regrettable” that Ponomaryov was unable to attend.

The activists who met with Burns and McFaul urged the United States to take a more public and critical position about the deteriorating state of human rights in Russia. Indeed, Burns and McFaul should have recognized Ponomaryov’s arrest as a slap in the face by Russian officials and condemned it. A raid before their visit on the Moscow offices of the New Times by masked and heavily armed security forces triggered no official response from Washington, though McFaul met with the editors of the journal. What will it take for higher levels of the Obama administration to unequivocally condemn arrests of activists, violence against protesters, pressure on journalists and murders of government critics?

Alas, speaking the truth about Russia isn’t likely to happen as long as the Obama administration spins its “reset” policy with Russia as one of its major foreign policy successes. Worse, administration officials have on numerous occasions rejected the notion of “linkage” between human rights problems and the U.S-Russia relationship. Such attitudes signal to Russian officials that there are no consequences for behavior such as cracking the heads of protesters, as Prime Minister Vladimir Putin recently advocated in an interview with the newspaper Kommersant, or the Moscow prosecutor’s office demanding organizational and financial documentation from leading human rights groups, as it did after the McFaul-Burns visit.

Given that the United States has little leverage over Russia, some in and outside the U.S. government argue that we should focus on areas where we can work together, such as in dealing with Iran, North Korea and nonproliferation. This thinking overlooks the effect that domestic developments have on Russia’s foreign policy. A growing values gap will reduce areas of common interest between our governments.

So what could be done? For starters, the administration should repudiate its policy of publicly rejecting linkage. Instead, officials should state that a deteriorating internal situation in Russia will affect the bilateral relationship and affect Russian elites’ ability to pursue their interests in the West. Using clear language, they should condemn human rights abuses.

Second, the U.S. government should refuse to help Russian leaders with economic modernization in the absence of any political liberalization. Doing so simply plays into their agenda and runs the risk that we will be seen as complicit in the elites’ phony, top-down drive for modernization.

Third, McFaul, a longtime democracy advocate, should terminate his Civil Society Working Group, of which Vladislav Surkov, first deputy head of the presidential administration and the architect of Russian’s “sovereign democracy” concept, is co-chair. This group should never have been launched with Surkov’s involvement.

Fourth, U.S. support for Russian membership in the World Trade Organization should be suspended unless Russia abides by the rules of the organizations in which it is already a member, such as the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the Group of Eight and the Council of Europe. Having Russia join the WTO and defy its rules, too, would make a mockery of all these organizations and will not help Russian reforms.

Fifth, the administration should consider denying visas to Russian officials who authorize or engage in human rights abuses. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) proposed this after Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky died in jail last year after being deprived of medical care. Washington should look into applying this approach to other cases, including the farcical trial of the oil billionaire Mikhail Khodorkovsky and his business partner Platon Lebedev. Depriving Russian officials the opportunity to visit America, educate their children here and hide their money in U.S. bank accounts would get their attention in a hurry.

Sixth, U.S. officials should have serious discussions with European counterparts to encourage them to pursue similar approaches. Some governments want to ignore rights abuses while they promote engagement and business strategies with Russia, but any potential impact will be greater if this is a joint U.S.-European initiative. In Britain, the idea of a visa ban has already been raised in some circles.

The human rights situation in Russia is bad and likely to get much worse as the March 2012 presidential election nears. Those in power will do anything to stay in power. Russia’s future and political development will be determined by Russians, but the West should do no further harm by perpetuating the current system. Enough already with U.S. expressions of “regret” about the deteriorating situation inside Russia — it’s time to call it like it is: Condemn what’s happening there and consider consequences for continued human rights abuses.

69 responses to “The Craven Obamaniacs, Complicit in Dictatorship

  1. How can Russia be allowed into WTO, the stronghold of freedoms and Western democracy, as exemplified by such beloved members as:

    Communist China, Communist Cuba, Communist Angola, Albania, Saudi Arabia, Uganda, Venezuela, Armenia, Georgia, Bahrain, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar/Burma, Nigeria, Rwanda, Haiti, Kuwait, Pakistan, etc, etc – truly the list of who is who among American-style democracies! How out of place would Russia be on this list.

    • Well, Georgia is far more democratic than Russia.
      So actually is Albania, Rwanda, and even Pakistan.
      Venezuela may have a moron in charge, but the opposition can and does win regional elections.
      Once again, unlike Russia.

      Lazlo/Ostap/Michael Tal/Voice Of Retardation, you really are a moron.

      • That’s what the Department of State whispers to your ears in the morning, sunshine?

        So tell me what are the regional elections opposition won in Georgia? And how much places does the opposition hold in the parliament of Georgia?

        I’ll tell you – 138 deputees of the Parliament are Saakashvili’s party men. Out of 150.

        Again: there are 14 PMs from the opposition parties – out of 150 PMs.

        60% in sakrebulo’s (local authorities) are Saakashvili party’s.

        Sounds democratic? Sure, baby, go tell that in Rwanda, they’d believe, maybe:D

        • Well Dtard, one of the problems is that nobody wants to vote for the opposition right now, they simply have no policies.

          In the local authorities a 60% majority is not unusual, and in case you are too retarded to realise it, 40% of the local authority positions are occupied by opposition candidates, which is a hell of a lot better than your cesspool Russia.

          As for your use of “baby” and “honey”, well I think I can guess why you are not worried about violence against women, you seem to be the anti woman boy molesting type Dima.

          Not unusual for Russia of course, just look at your child molesting PM Putin the pedo.

          • Sure thing, baby, as you wish, honey.

            Of course we all understand Saakashvili looks so good for an average Georgian that he easily gets 95% votes in the parliament for his party, and Georgia is a pure democracy, just nobody wants to vote for the opposition.

            PS. Don’t get started over the word “honey”, honey.

            • dymasha;

              In case you missed it. Georgia dropped Russian language, English became a second language in this magnificent county – Don’t you think we should congratulate the Georgians.???

              • The thousands of Georgians who come to Russia annually to sweep streets and to lay bricks find the Russian language handy, however.

                • The Georgian elite (like the president:)) still believe, though, their children need to know Russian.

                  Of course, I would rather wish Georgians to study English only, and totally forget about Russian. After all, they have been using foreign languages mostly for begging for money lately.

                  Whoa. They have 80.3% of their GDP equalling of total external debts. (Forget it not, they have internal debts too).

                  http:/ /www.vz.ru/economy/2010/3/31/388629.html

                  Each Georgian citizen owes 20,000 USD to guys abroad only.

                  And yes, the debt is denominated in foreign currency. Almost all this debt is created by the existing one-party system of government, controlled by Saakashvili (or by whoever controls Saakashvili).

                  Cool.

                  Dear Khartvels, please speak English, English, not Russian, Russian.

                  • Georgia’s external debt to 17 states worldwide comprises USD 546,7 million, including a debt of 17 million to Armenia. Among major creditors are Germany- USD 189,7 mln., Russia -USD 117,4 mln., Japan – USD 55,8 mln., U.S. – USD 36,8 mln., Turkey – USD. 32,9 mln.

                    Russia. Oh, what a world:)

                    • I did not know this, yet I am not surprized. How else can you feed this Andrew guy: judging by the number of posts, he hardly works; makes spelling mistakes in his own language; has no knowledge of high school subjects (like the very basics of linguistics). He would starve if Russia was not paying for his subsistance.

                    • Well AT, you make mistakes in basic high school subjects like history.

                      I probably work a lot harder than a racist Russian chauvinist pig such as yourself, and BTW, I do not post anything like as much as vermin such as Dtard and yourself.

                      As for spelling mistakes, well some of those might be that you don’t understand the difference between Commonwealth English and US English, and others well, a result of typing too fast.

                      However, that being said, you are a verminous little scumbag, a supporter of Russian state racist policies such as ethnic cleansing and mass murder, Russian imperialism, and dictatorial rule.

                      In short, you are scum.

                    • Right, Andrew, you typed “independant” too fast about two hundred times. I am sure there are schools in the Commonwealth of Nations where they teach you to write this way. I am just sorry you had to study at a school like this. Also, which historic facts have I ever got wrong? When did I support racism? I totally condemn Georgian imperialism. And it would be totally impossible to find any statements of my in support of any dictatorial regime. Liar.

                  • Andrew, lately:

                    You have fckd up in linguistics (several times),

                    in history of your own country (two times, Mkhedrioni and Gamsakhurdia),

                    in economics.

                    I think it’s time for you to just shut up.

                    • No Dtard, you fcked up in linguistics when you claimed that Nakh and Daghestani were two completely different languages when in fact they are part of the same linguistic family, known as Nakh-Daghestani.

                      You have no understanding of Caucasian Languages, be they Adyghe-Abkhazian, Nakh-Dagestani, or the Kartvelian families.

                      You also fcked up when you claimed that Mingrelians did not consider themselves Georgians, you lied about Gamsakhurdia, and you are quite wrong when you call Georgia a “one party state”, when the opposition control 40% of local government that is not a one party system, the reason for their failure in parliamentary elections is that at the national level they have no policies except personal attacks on the current president, who maintains a majority of public support despite mistakes he has made.

                      And once again you retarded Russian pedophile, I am a New Zealander.

                      It is way past time for you to shut up little man.

                    • Andrew, English and Tajik also belong to the same linguistic family. That’s what Dimitry tried to tell you.

                    • But they are brothers, English and Tajiks, aren’t they?:))

                    • Oh, Andrew:) Opposition controls 40% in local governments in Georgia:)

                      And 7% of Parliament, you forgot to add?

                      Even if you don’t lie this time, that’s quite a strange correlation itself…

                      And you’ve obciously forgot to say it’s the 60% majority that makes all decisions in every local government:)

                  • Oh, and in politics of your own country, Andrew, claiming it’s one-party one-man controlled political system is a democracy.

                    Really no need for you to continue it any further.

          • As to the local authorities, your knowledge of the native country is too poor even for a Georgian. Sakrebulos are representative bodies, and every sakrebulo in your country is controlled by Saakashvili’s party.

            Your whole country is controlled by one single party, which means, one man, actually, Misha. Local authorities, parliament, army, police, education, Tbilisi mayor – are all controlled by Saakashvili’s party. This is a single-party system, just like in the good-ol’ USSR. Or modern Tajikistan and Azerbaijan.

            To understand what the real competitive democracy in Caucasus may look like, take Armenia, and check they have 5 parties in parliament, none has the majority, and their politics are highly competitive. Strange enough, in Armenia people “want” vote for the opposition, and the opposition “does” have “policies”.

            Though, maybe, after all, it’s for the better in Georgia only Saakashvili has any “policies”…

            • Blah blah Dtard, One of the reasons people refuse to vote for the opposition in Georgia is they are seen as being pro Russian, something the Georgian people are not prepared to accept.

              In addition, Georgia is now the least corrupt of the former Soviet Republics except for those in the EU.

              Russia and Armenia are basically the most corrupt.

              Georgia is 66

              Armenia is 120
              Russia is 146

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

              Thought to be fair, corruption, autocracy, racism, and other degenerate behaviours seem to be hard wired into Russians.

              In addition, Freedom House rates Georgia as 4 for political freedoms, and 4 for civil liberties resulting in a “partly free” rating, Armenia is considerably behind with a 6 for political freedoms and 4 for civil liberties, just scraping in to “partly free” while Russia comes in dead of the three with 6 for political freedoms and 5 for civil liberties, gaining a rating of “NOT FREE”

              In case you were wondering Dtard, the lower the number the better.

              http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/fiw10/FIW_2010_Tables_and_Graphs.pdf

              Time for you to stop playing with yourself Dtard.

    • Nobody ever said that the WTO is the stronghold of freedoms. It’s a classic tool of every demagogue — to impute to an opponent the words or ideas he never subscribed to, and then to refute them.

      The WTO is an organization that tries to ensure that the world trade is conducted fairly. That’s why Russia is not a member. She cheats and lies about everything she does. Who wants to have a partner like that?

  2. Oh, Ihaven’t actually read the article from the beginning, how could have I missed it!

    So guy gets arrested for criticising Luzhkov, Moscow mayor, now? When Luzhkov is about to be ousted by the Kremlin (which actually dislikes Luchkov much)? When Moscow city mayor goes to vacation to not be fired right away? Guy is arrested by the Russian police, which is controlled by the federal government?

    Only a US journalist could probably write such a noncence, and only a US reader could believe it…

  3. I don’t know what the term “USian” means. I know you use it a lot. About being arrogant, we have a right to be because we are superior.

    • RV, I heard Ron discussing about races, what is your theory of inferior races?

      As to USian, this has the same meaning as Merkin in this case, but the term itself is factually correct.

      Feel free to Google the word.

      • Dima, you are a retard.

      • There are no inferior races, only inferior economic, political or social systems, and Russia’s conomic, political or social systems are clearly inferior.

        • Ron would not agree to there are no inferior races, I guess.

          However, I would not argue (of course) that Russian economics is much smaller than that of the US. Not inferior, though. See, the US economics has one fundamental fallacy that makes me quite careful in evaluating it’s strength, or “superiority” over Russian one: Russian economy is sustainable, the USian is not. Whatever you do, when you can only live in debt, you do it wrong.

          As to the political system, well, I wonder how comes in two centuries there was no new political party emerging. See France or Germany, for example – they have seen dozens of new parties. Even in Britain, they have now the third party, quite a strong one. I’d say the US policy really reminds me of some kind of turf where two gangs compete, and where you shopuld choose either one or another, but hardly han create something new.

          Please don’t give Andrew-league comments like “Americans just do not want the opposition, because opposition has no ideas how to make life better”. In any European country socialist parties exist, and are quite strong, if not holding power. Not the case of the US. Then who does represent the interests of 60-70% of lower-income population?

          As to the social system, I guess (and it’s my strong belief) that you need to face some troubles to understand how strong your society is. If you really believe the US society (including minorities and lower classes) is well integrated (than you are wrong), if you feel the nation stands united in cases of external or internal dangers (wrong), than it would mean you believe social system in the US is strong.

          In the US, you have a strong middle class with common values. But in Russia, we just don’t have ghettos at all. I ask you to remember Catrine hurricane, and compare it to the wilfires in Russia this year. In Russia, people massively collected clothes and other things for fires victims, and thousands volunteers went to fight fires. In the US, you have seen it on TV yourself…

          See, the US is really strong a country. But the problem is, wealth, political system is controlled by 5% (at most) of the population.

          I have once cited numbers of minorities serving as US Senators – 18 person, for all the three centuries, for Asian, Black, and Hispanic USians. That would be the case with economics too. And this very well describes the society as well.

        • This somewhat redeems you, RV. Still its not smart to be arrogant. There are individuals and nations who are more successful and those who are less successful. That does not give anyone a right to be arrogant, and, in general, arrogance is a sign of poor taste. And usually it alienates people. In any case, I don’t know any truly successful people who are arrogant. I believe this applies to nations as well. As far as the measure of nations’ relative success is concerned, having traveled the world a lot, I came to the conclusion that the GDP/capita rating is a fairly accurate measure for it, despite a number of shortcomings. No doubt the US system is proving to be a more effective one than the Russian system. On the other hand, Russia is far from being a basket case and has been making a good progress for the last 10 years.

          • Very well. I was just trying to say that countries and nations are not equal, and their rights or responsibilities are not the same, and not every one of them deserves respect. So, I don’t know if it’s arrogant to state that the U.S. (and the West in general) has superior systems which deserve a lot of respect, while Russia and her best friends Iran, Venezuela and Nicaragua have inferior systems and don’t deserve any respect.

            Russia demands, very loudly I might add, a lot more respect that she deserves. The high commodity prices is what’s responsible for all that “good progress” you are talking about. In other areas Russia is a worse country than it was 10 or 15 years ago. With all his faults, the drunkard Yeltsin still had enough sense to allow competitive elections and did not jail people who criticized him.

            • There is nothing wrong with demanding respect. This is the least one should demand from others. Respect is what you need to show in order to be respected in return. As long as you show your disrespect to your Russian counterparts, they have a right to reciprocate accordingly. Showing disrespect to any nation or a system will alienate this nation or system from you. You are less likely to succeed or to remain successful if you make enemies. This is why showing disrespect is outright stupid.

              • And also, I would strongly disagree that “in other areas Russia is a worse country than it was 10 or 15 years ago”. The situation was improving in nearly all areas in Russia during the last 10 years and is continuing to improve. If you do not understand that, you will fail to understand why Russians support the current system so strongly. The system is not without its flaws, but it is reasonable enough, flexible enough and responsive enough. It caters to the interests of the most. Is it a Jeffersonian democracy? — no, it is not. Is it repressive? — not generally: most Russians enjoy the same freedoms under this system as they would be enjoying under any other system. Does it deliver economic growth, improving security, better living standards every year — definitely. Is is stable and sustainable in the long term? — probably not, but nor is the current economic policy of the US, but again general populace does not think long-term.

                • The system does not deliver economic growth, high energy and raw materials prices do. But population does not think of it, exactly. That’s why Russians surely deserve what they have and what they will have soon.

                  • You know what delivers economic growth in this world lately? I’ll tell you what.

                    Several hundred million labour force with low demands does. Like in China, India.

                    Nothing else does. Western economic system does not.

                  • RV, commodity prices do not mean automatic growth. Look at the Congo, which has all the commodities you can dream of, and its GDP/capita has been falling despite increases in commodity prices. Look at Saudi Arabia — it benefited from commodity prices a lot, but the difference between the rich and the poor there is tremendously wider than it it in Russia. Look at Ukraine — it did not transform high commodity prices into a semblance of Russia’s success during these years. Russia has competitive advantage in producing commodities, so capital, labor and other resources will flow in this industry first and to other industries next, so dependence on commodities will be difficult to overcome no matter what system there is in place. Its not clear to me why you discount commodities as a legitimate source of growth. The US growth, since recently, has mainly been fueled by exploiting a different resource — the capacity to borrow. Why do you think using this resource is more legitimate than commodities?

              • Respect has to be earned. It’s not an automatic entitlement. Russia has not earned it. Maybe sometime it will nobody knows. But Russia pretends to be an economic superpower (isn’t that why it is a member of the G8), which is just laughable. Russian achievements do not match Russia’s ambitions, that’s all. And the West should not be afraid of some kind of retaliation. Shale gas is the beginning of the end of the Putin regime

                • Basing on GDP PPP, Russia is a larger economy than most G8 members.

                  Share of fuel sector in Russian GDP was about 20,5% in 2007.

                  And here’s what WP tells us about the “Putin years”:

                  Under the Putin administration, Russia’s economy saw the nominal Gross Domestic Product (GDP) double, climbing from 22nd to 11th largest in the world. The economy made real gains of an average 7% per year (2000: 10%, 2001: 5.7%, 2002: 4.9%, 2003: 7.3%, 2004: 7.2%, 2005: 6.5%, 2006: 7.7%, 2007: 8.1%, 2008: 5.6%), making it the 6th largest economy in the world in GDP(PPP). In 2007, Russia’s GDP exceeded that of 1990, meaning it has overcome the devastating consequences of the Soviet era, 1998 financial crisis, and preceding recession in the 1990s.[12] On a per capita basis, Russian GDP was US$11,339 per individual in 2008, making Russians 57th richest on both a purchasing power and nominal basis.

                  During Putin’s eight years in office, industry grew by 75%, investments increased by 125%,[12] and agricultural production and construction increased as well. Real incomes more than doubled and the average salary increased eightfold from $80 to $640.[13][14][15] The volume of consumer credit between 2000–2006 increased 45 times,[16][17] and during that same time period, the middle class grew from 8 million to 55 million, an increase of 7 times. The number of people living below the poverty line also decreased from 30% in 2000 to 14% in 2008.[12][18][19]

                  These are real and sourced numbers.

                  • If to that 20.5 % share for fuel you add metals, coal and such, you’ll see how dependent Russia is on the least effective areas of the economy — raw materials and commodities.

                    6th largest economy is a meaningless thing, if you don’t take into account 150 million population, still quite large number of workers. But you are fudging numbers. According to IMF or World Bank, its gross GDP is 12th not 6th, and well below each of U.S., Canada, Japan, Germany, Britain, France and Italy, the other 7 countries of the G8. Look it up:

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

                    Well, now you said Russia is 57th richest in the world, with over $11K per capita GDP. It is not quite true. It is number 59 or 60, not 57, and may be that $11K number was true in 2007, but not now. It is below $9K now, according to any source.

                    Let’s say it is #59. But she behaves like it is among top countries. Simply put, Russia does not know its place. It is behind even Equatorial Guinea, Libya and Barbados, but behaves as an economic miracle country. Their pride and virulent nationalism drive the conduct, not reality.

                    • Again, what’s wrong with having ambitions. Those “who know their place” rarely achieve something. Great countries are built on pure ambitions.

                    • RV, I’d advice to take years into account when you discuss the Russian economy. Russia is a BRIC, it develops faster then the world’s average.

                      You took stats from 2005, that was the one reason why you claim “me” (actually, Wikipedia) is “fudging numbers”.

                      The second reason you need to read about what the PPP is. Russian Rouble is seriously underestimated, that’s normal for a growing economy, and China does the same with Yuan.

                      World Bank says you need to multiply the GDP counted in Roubles by 1,8 to get a real number in USD, not just use the currency exchange rates of the moment.

                      That’s why the PPP GDP of Russia is 6th in the world, and higher than that of most G8s’. Out of G8, only Germany and the US’ GDPs surpass it.

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29

                      And as to the GDP PPP per capita, Russia is lower than most G8s, and a little bit lower than Poland, higher than Lithuania. 2 times over the world’s average.

                      But believe me, had Lithuania a 140M population, it would be on G8 too.

                      All data is taken from the World Bank, 2009 survey.

                      http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DATASTATISTICS/Resources/GDP_PPP.pdf

                  • dymasha wrote;

                    Basing on GDP PPP, Russia is a larger economy than most G8 members.

                    comment;

                    It was ALWAYS G7 – Russia tried to get into the G club through the kitchen entrance – Let me refresh your memory, dymasha, Russia is a third world country with dying population and aging nukes and NO FUTURE….

                • Well, respect is to be demanded and earned. Normally, ambitions come first, then — God willing — come achievements. There is nothing wrong to have ambitions and strive to achieve. Russia has been invided to G8 not because of its economic power, but because of its geopolitical importance — basically, because it has the capacity to bomb other G8 members into the Stone Age.

                  • In other words, Russia became the member of the G8 because of blackmail. See, with that in mind, how she be respected?

                    • No, because of its muscle. Strength is respected, as you see. You may not respect Russia, but its G8 membership is definitely a sign of respect.

                    • In general, whether you respect Russia or not is totally irrelevant. The relevant question is whether Russia should demand respect. I see nothing wrong with that. Should it behave like a great nation? Yes it should, as long as it does not harm Russia in the long run. Should it consider the fact that this irritates the likes of RV — also, only if ignoring them does not result in major harm now or if it is not consistent with the country’s positioning of itself as a considerable power in the long run.

                      Of course, one could argue that China’s position is smarter: China’s behaviour does not irritate, although the country has been emerging as the world’s new dominant power for more than a decade…

                  • While I disagree with you most of the time, at least you are not irrational most of the time. I have to say that of all the Russophiles here, you are the only one who is not an insane ideologue and your views are interesting and thought-provoking. Thanks for that

                    • RV, there is nothing wrong with differences in opinions — outside North Korea at least. I do not consider myself as a Russophile, but — by the standards of this site — I guess, I am one, at least when I post here. As far as “insane ideologues” are concerned, unfortunately, this site is, in essence, a hate site (although I get its thesis — essentially to insult Russophiles into understanding that they need to change life in Russia …or something along these lines). As a hate site, this blog attracts commenters with extreme points of view , first of all those who truly hate Russia and Russians, regardless of the regime in the country. At times, I personally find it very tempting to descend to these commenters’ level of ad hominem attacks and profane posts. Much of the Russophile stance you see here is — I think — childish, basic, tit-for-tat reciprocity to hate posts. In my view, this stance has very little to do with the “Russophile” commenters’ ideology or lack thereof. There are more serious sites on the same topic. You could do your research and see what these sites are. This one is definitely the most provocative blog, however. Who knows maybe that is why I was bothered to comment here (and thank you for not calling me names or pointing out my typos, which tend I make a lot when I am excited or upset).

                    • @first of all those who truly hate Russia and Russians, regardless of the regime in the country.

                      No, it’s just one guy with multiple identities. I think he’s actually crazy in some way or another and not trolling. He also issued a few laughable death threats towards me.

                      I think you’re taking the whole “Russophobia” thing seriously. You shouldn’t, the whole idea was invented by Lavrovs and other Yastshembskys (you don’t hear, say, any US officials raving on some “Americanophobia” when someone criticises Gitmo or whatever, do you?), along with “double standards” and the rest of their silly newspeak bull****. Really it’s more like “Mafiosophobia” or “Fascistophobia” (not a real words, just a normal mindest of any decent human being), or it is at least for me.

                    • Hey, thnx for labeling me an “insane ideologue”:)

  4. Oops, dropped the letter “i” from the word bolshoi.

  5. Russia is playing games as always. It has no intention of joining the WTO. How would then Putler implement his policy of protectionism???!!!
    Games, lies, treachery-that’s russia

  6. Call him the spy who wants to go home again. Except that Igor Sutyagin insists he is not a spy. And his friends warn him not to go home again.

    “Everybody but one,” he said, “tells me run from that country.”

    That country is Russia, where he was locked up for 11 years for working for a British consulting firm that Moscow called a C.I.A. front. Plucked from the bowels of a Russian prison camp, Mr. Sutyagin was freed last month in a dramatic spy swap arranged by the president of the United States even as America denied he had been a spy.

    Mr. Sutyagin has had a decade to think about where he went awry, how sending foreigners information about the Russian military gleaned from newspapers could be taken for treason. But in the weeks since he and three other prisoners were traded for 10 Russian sleeper agents on a Vienna tarmac, he has struggled to come to grips with his abrupt liberation and his role at the center of a geopolitical bargain intended to preserve warming relations between the United States and Russia.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/13/world/europe/13spy.html

    • Where are those people that hired Sutyagin? Where were they registered? Where’s the company now? Were they ever working for the CIA? What the CIA has to say about this?

      You won’t ever get no answers.

      Is it really that natural for a British company that hires Russian scientists to cease to exist right before the trial, and for the owners/ staff of the company to cease answering phones?

      What is it, a normal business practice in the UK now? Or is it a covert operation by the CIA?

  7. MOSCOW (AP) — Two prominent opponents of the Kremlin have been arrested at a downtown Moscow rally demanding a return to the popular election of mayors and regional governors from the current system of presidential nomination.

    The high-profile human rights activist Lev Ponomaryov

    Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/86052/#ixzz12D5uF2P5

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