September 27, 2010 — Contents


(1)  EDITORIAL: Putin’s Bloody mahem against Children

(2)  EDITORIAL: Russian Hypocrisy knows no Bounds

(3)  The Craven Obamaniacs, Complicit in Dictatorship

(4)  Brutal Sexism Continues in Putin’s Russia

(5)  The Collapse of Science in Putin’s Russia

(6) Sidorov on the Luzhkov Fiasco

NOTE:  If you have Facebook you can watch an amusing and charming Photoshop video of Yulia Tymoshenko, to the beat of the late great Roy Orbison’s “Pretty Woman.”

26 responses to “September 27, 2010 — Contents

  1. Heavy peace and love continues daily in Dagestan.


    “According to latest updates, 30 people, including 20 police officers, have been hospitalized after the blast,” the source said, adding that three people were in serious condition. Police surrounded a group of militants in a private house in Makhachkala on Friday evening. Two militants and two police officers were killed in the ensuing gunfight.

    The day before:

    “According to preliminary information, four militants, including a woman, were killed. The identity of one of the militants has already been established,” the source said, adding that the identified militant was a member of a terrorist group.

    Two militants were killed and one was detained during a special operation in Dagestan’s capital of Makhachkala on Friday evening, Russia’s National Antiterrorism Committee said. Two police officers also died while protecting civilians from militant fire, the statement added.

    Day earlier (these guys sure are jumpy):

    Police in the southern Russian Republic of Dagestan opened fire at a car, which refused to stop, killing two colleagues, a police source said on Thursday. He added that both victims were identified as officers of the local police department.

    (If you click the link and see the photo, they made so many holes in their “two colleagues” they sure won’t get an open coffin a funeral.)

    • You know what, Bobby, why don’t Chezh rep. just give an asylum to all these Daghestani freedom fighters?

      I mean, you get more freedom, they get more freedom, we get more freedom – cool decision for all, huh?

      • dymasha wrote;

        You know what, Bobby, why don’t Chezh rep. just give an asylum to all these Daghestani freedom fighters?

        Daghestani freedom fighters HAVE their own country it is called DAGHESTAN…You Russians seem to miss this important point…and Daghestani people are trying to remind Russia about it….

        • Who lives in Dagestan? What ethnos?

          • Sad you don’t know…

          • North Caucasians you retard.
            The above are the native population who make up 75% of the population

            Their cousins:
            Make up 3.4% of the population

            Kumyks, Nogais, & Azeri make up 20%

            And then of course you have the despised immigrants, the Russians, who make up 6.7%.

            • Their cousins, the Chechens?

              Whose cousins, Andrew?

              Dargins’? Avars’? Tsakhurs’? Laks’? Do you have at least a vague understanding what ethnoses are close in Caucasus, and what are not?

              Have you ever read the Dagestani source on Chechnyta and Chechen militants?

              I bet you did not, for you would never claim those are “cousins” of theirs.

              As to “cousins”, here’s for Lezgins:

              Говорят на лезгинском языке, который, наряду с родственными ему табасаранским, агульским, рутульским, цахурским, будухским, крызским, арчинским, хиналугским и удинским, относится к лезгинской ветви кавказских языков.

              And here’s vor Vainakhs, which Chechens are:

              На́хские наро́ды (вейнахи, вайнахи) — группа народов Северного Кавказа и Грузии, говорящая на родственных нахских языках: ингуши, чеченцы (включая аккинцев и кистинцев), бацбийцы. Общая численность вайнахов свыше 2 миллионов человек.

              A totally different nation.

              But that’s ok for a Georgian to despise and know nothing about the history of “barbarians” that live around him. Be it Ossets, or Daghestanis, or Chechens.

              This is exactly the reason every other nation in Caucasus believes you are racists.

              Now get off my internets.

              • Oh, and before I forgot.

                “Georgians” is for “Khartvels” in this post.

                Even other fellow Georgians, like Mengrels, think Khartvels are racists after Shevardnadze.

                • No Dtard, Mingrelians describe themselves as the “best” Georgians, once again, I have yet to see any ethnic discord between Kartvelians and Mingrelians, despite Russian vermin such as yourself claiming there is, the difference is about the same as a Yorkshireman and someone from the Home Counties in the UK.

                  I can tell you quite truthfully, that the Mingrelians hate Russian racist pigs such as yourself, and consider themselves Georgian in all respects.

                  The North Caucasian languages are all related, in the same way that Bulgarian, Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian are all related, they have split into 6 sub languages.


                  It is the same with Georgian, the ancient language has split into Kartvelian, Svan, and Migrelian (Mingrelian is the closest to the ancient dialect)

                  Of course, a substandard intellect such as yours has no understanding of non slavs, so it is not surprising you are so wrong in this as in all things dtard.

                  You should stop using the internet Dtard, it is meant for normal folks, not autistic children like you.

                  • 1) On Mengrels.

                    “Once again”, turn off the Imedi and listen to what people on the streets say. I have Mengrel friends, and I know why I say what I say.

                    They definitely think they are better than Khartvels. And they definitely have something to say about the Khartvels Mhedrioni nazis from the 90ies. And what they did to Mengrels in the towns they entered. Just ask people, not the Saakashvili news ancors.

                    Same story with Laz people.

                    2) On “Northern Caucasian” languages.

                    “The North Caucasian languages are all related, in the same way that Bulgarian, Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian are all related, they have split into 6 sub languages.”

                    6 “sublanguages”? Cool. Is Georgian a “language” or a “sublanguage”? Or Mengrel?

                    Nevermind, your stupid wording aside, the phrase still remains brilliant.

                    Sunshine, “North Caucasian languages” are even less “related” than Punjabi and Irish.

                    Your “North Caucasian” actually comprises two language families, when Punjabi and Irish languages are from one language family. As to the Chechen and, say, Lakh, they are from one language family, only this time “NorthEAST Caucasian”, not the “North Caucasian” “something” you speak about. Just like, say Russian and Spanish are from one language family. Indo-European one. And like Punjabi and Irish are.

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                    Only a Georgian like you could possibly make such “profound” conclusions about his neighbours. But really, why don’t you call Spanish and Poles “cousins” next time, huh?

                    3) As to the “Georgian language”.

                    “It is the same with Georgian, the ancient language has split into Kartvelian, Svan, and Migrelian (Mingrelian is the closest to the ancient dialect)”,

                    WTF is the “ancient language”? The ancient language – the language of gestures and cries monkeys used? Split into every modern human language? And where did the Georgian go? Or where did it came from?

                    Go and study your own history.

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                    Then, perhaps, you’ll understand that Svans and Mengrels and Khartvels are also no more “cousins” than Spanish and Poles.

                    With love.

                    • “the North Caucasian languages are all related”… “they have split into 6 sub languages” — oh my… how unfortunate that one of my degrees in in linguistics… the linguist inside me is crying now.

                    • “Sublanguages”, like it or not:)

                    • Actually Dtard, most of my neighbors ar Mingrelians (not Mengrels thank you very much, and as for Kartvelians being “racist” towards Mingrelians, well funny how the first democratically elected President of Georgia, Zviad Gamsakhurdia was a Mingrelian, and many of the current administration are too.

                      As for the Mekhedroni, well most people in Georgia, particularly those in West Georgia including Imereti and Mingrelia have something negative to say about them, given that they were a Mafia style paramilitary group. A bit like OMON, but with more morals one might add.

                      Really Dtard, you are an inferior example of the usual RuSSian liar.

                      And AT, when you talk about a Sub-Language, that just means a subdivision of a language family, as sub-dialect and sub-ethnic group are all used.

                      You too are a verminous waste of oxygen AT

                    • @Mkhedrioni:

                      Mkhedrioni being an (Svan-dominated) anti-Zviadist gang, many members hated Mengrels.

                      @ The “democratically elected” Zviad “Georgia for Georgians”Gamsakhurdia:

                      You should probably read about his latest initiatives, where Gamsakhurdia fought for Mengrels to quit the Georgian state and form a federation with Abkhazians. One fully independent from Georgia. Kind of says everything about what he thought of Georgia and Georgians in the end of his life.

                      And your second “democratically elected” president, Shevardnadze, really wanted to get support of Khartvel and Svan population. So he let loose the Mkhedrioni gangs, to attack both his enemy Gamsakhurdia, and Abkhaz and Mengrels that supported him.

                      “Democratically elected” Gamsakhurdia was “democratically ousted”, quite a usual development for the modern Georgian history.

                      And then Gamsakhurdia, like, comitted a “democratical suicide”, with a shot in the back of his head.

                      Still the 2nd “democratically elected” president Shevardnadze didn’t stop to attack Mengrels and Abkhaz, that supported Gamsakhurdia, with his Mkhedrioni.

                      Mengrels refused to fight Georgians during the Abkhazian Independence War, as they still felt they are close to Georgians. Nevertheless, even armless, staying in their own houses, they were not spared by Mkhedrioni and the Svan “National guardsmen” of Kitovani. And Mengrels also lost respect of many Abkhaz, which saw they are not reliable.

                      Study your own history, again.

                      @”sublanguages”, “sub-dialects” and “sub-ethnic groups”.

                      Honey, the term “sublanguage” can only mean a “professional argot” in linguistics.

                      No “ancient languages” split in “sublanguages”. No “6 sublanguages” exist in the Northern Caucasus.

                      Don’t use terms you don’t know.

                      And don’t start to discuss matters you don’t understand, be it history, or linguistics.

                      With love.

                    • Really Dtard, you are outdoing yourself in the stupidity line these days.

                      1. Gamsakhurdia never proposed Mingrelian independence or federation with Abkhazia, he died still trying to remain President of a united Georgia.

                      2. There is no movement for independence in Mingrelia or amongst Mingrelians in Georgia in general. They are extremely patriotic, and consider themselves Georgians despite the linguistic differences. The only known “Independence” movement was that formed in Russia in 1995 by Nugzar Dzhodzhua, who was forced to flee after severely aggrivating his Mingrelian countrymen by his outlandish statements:

                      The Mingrelian Nationalist Party (Mingrelian: Margaluri Nacionalisturi Partiashi; Georgian: მეგრული ნაციონალისტური პარტია, Megruli Nacionalisturi Partia), MNP, is a Russia-based quasi-political party which advocates the secession of the province Mingrelia from Georgia.
                      Mingrelians are linguistically different, but ethnically and culturally intimately related to other Georgians, and consider themselves as Georgians.
                      The MNP was founded in Russia, 1995, by a certain Nugzar Dzhodzhua, a Mingrelian from Abkhazia (secessionist region within Georgia), who made a scandalous name by declaring on Abkhaz television in 1989, that Mingrelians were not Georgians and had been subjected to forcible “Georgianization” for centuries. These claims, propagated also by Abkhaz nationalists, caused a great discontent among the Mingrelians that led to a series of incidents with Dzhodzhua forcing him to move to Russia.
                      The MNP is not a registered political organization in Georgia. The party is hardly known either in Mingrelia and the rest of the country, or elsewhere in the World, and there are no reports about its current activities. It has merely had a presence on the Internet, confined to its website.


                      As I have said before, Mingrelians consider themselves Georgians, in fact the best Georgians.
                      I have many Mingrelian neighbors and friends, I suggest you come to Tbilsi so I can introduce you, you will unfortunately find out the hard way what they really think.

                      3. Mingrelians did not remain “neutral” during the war in Abkhazia, they fought hard for the Georgian government, particularly during the fighting for Sokhumi, and to this day the majority of them have been baned from returning to their homes outside of the Gali region.

                      5. Ancient languages are those that are known to have existed in a written form during or prior to the Roman Empire cut off date varies between 400 & 500AD
                      Some examples of ancient languages are:
                      Biblical languages such as Old Hebrew & Aramaic
                      Ancient (Classical) Greek languages.
                      Ancient Persian
                      Ancient Egyptian
                      The Kartvelian languages (Georgian, Svan, Mingrelo-Laz (Zan))
                      And so on.

                      Funnily enough the Russian language is not ancient, but a fairly recent development.

                      Furthermore on the relationship between the Kartvelian family of languages:

                      The South Caucasian languages (also known as Kartvelian[1]) are spoken primarily in Georgia, with smaller groups of speakers in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iran, Russia and Israel.[2] There are approximately 5.2 million speakers of this language family worldwide. It is not known to be related to any other language family in the world.[3] The first literary source in a South Caucasian language (the inscription of Abba Antoni, composed in ancient Georgian script at the Georgian monastery near Bethlehem[4]) dates back to 440 A.D

                      The South Caucasian language family consists of four closely related languages:[1][6][7][8][9][10]

                      Karto-Zan languages
                      Georgian (ქართული ენა, kartuli ena) with approximately 4.5 million native speakers, mainly in Georgia. There are Georgian-speaking communities in Russia, Turkey, Iran, Israel, and EU countries, but the current number and distribution of them are unknown.

                      Zan languages
                      Mingrelian (მარგალური ნინა, margaluri nina), with some 500,000 native speakers as of 1989, mainly in the western regions of Georgia of Samegrelo and Abkhazia (at present in Gali district only). The number of Mingrelian speakers in Abkhazia underwent dramatic decrease in the 1990s as a result of heavy ethnic cleansing of the Georgian population, the overwhelming majority of which were Mingrelians. The Mingrelians displaced from Abkhazia are scattered elsewhere in the Georgian government territory, with dense clusters in Tbilisi and Zugdidi.
                      Laz (ლაზური ნენა, lazuri nena), with 220,000 native speakers as of 1980, mostly in the Black Sea littoral area of northeast Turkey, and with some 30,000 in Adjara, Georgia.

                      Svan language (ლუშნუ ნინ, lušnu nin), with approximately 35,000–40,000 native speakers mainly in the northwestern mountainous region of Svaneti, Georgia, and in the Kodori Gorge of Abkhazia, Georgia.

                      Social and cultural status

                      Georgian is the official language of the Republic of Georgia (spoken by 90% of the population) and the main language for literary and business use for all Kartvelian speakers in Georgia. It is written with an original and distinctive alphabet, and the oldest surviving literary text dates from the 5th century AD — the only Caucasian language that does possess an ancient literary tradition. The old Georgian script seems to have derived from Aramaic, with Greek influences.
                      Mingrelian has been written with the Georgian alphabet since 1864, especially in the period from 1930 to 1938, when the Mingrelians enjoyed some cultural autonomy, and after 1989.
                      The Laz language was written chiefly between 1927 and 1937, and now again in Turkey, with the Latin alphabet. Laz, however, is disappearing as its speakers are integrating into mainstream Turkish society.


                      Now as to your lies that Daghestanian and Chechen languages are unrelated, try again Dtard.

                      Here we are:

                      North Caucasian languages (sometimes called simply Caucasic as opposed to Kartvelian, and to avoid confusion with the concept of “Caucasian race”) is a blanket term for two language phyla spoken chiefly in the north Caucasus and Turkey: the Northwest Caucasian family (Pontic, Abkhaz-Adyghe, Circassian, West Caucasian) and the Northeast Caucasian family (Caspian, Nakh-Dagestanian, East Caucasian); the latter includes the former North-central Caucasian (Nakh) family.

                      Internal classification

                      Among the linguists who support the North Caucasian hypothesis, the main split between Northeast Caucasian and Northwest Caucasian is considered uncontroversial. Problems arise when it gets to the internal structure of Northeast Caucasian itself. So far no general agreement has been reached in this respect. The following classification is based on Nikolayev & Starostin (1994):
                      1. North Caucasian
                      1.1. Abkhazo-Adyghean
                      1.2. Hattic
                      1.3. Nakh-Daghestanian
                      1.3.1. Nakh
                      1.3.2. Hurro-Urartian
                      1.3.3. Daghestanian


                      So Dmitry, I suggest you stay off the internet in future, it is ment for intelligent adults not morons like you. But thanks for showing us again the inferiority of Russian education.

                    • Oh, and here is a linkt to the family tree of the North Caucasian languages:

                      Like I said, the Daghestanis and their cousins, the Chechens.

                    • Andrew, believe me I’m serious, and there’s no showing off: you need to stop making these foolish comments on languages.

                      You don’t know what you’re talking about.

                      The very article of wikipedia you quote starts with the words:

                      North Caucasian languages (sometimes called simply Caucasic as opposed to Kartvelian, and to avoid confusion with the concept of “Caucasian race”) is a blanket term for TWO LANGUAGE PHYLA

                      Do you understand it? TWO language families of N.Caucasus are more than ONE Indo-European family.

                      Members of one language phyla, like Chechens and, say, Avars, are not cousins, just like Poles and Spanish are not cousins. Just like Mengrels and Khartvels are not cousins. All three families in question had one certain proto-language (see proto-Khartvelian, or proto-Indo-European) for each family, but that was 5-6 millenia ago.

                      So stop these posts, please. They are not smart.

                    • Really Dtard, you can’t even read can you?

                      The two language phyla of the North Caucasian languages are Abkhazo-Adyghean and Nakh-Daghestani.

                      The Daghestanis and Chechens are closely related, bith in culture and language.

                      Just as the Mingrelians are contained within the Georgian family of peoples, both linguistically and culturally.

                      Of course, you will never understand this, and I doubt you have ever talked to a Mingrelian in your life, or a Chechen for that matter.

                    • I believe you just don’t know the word phyla. It means “family”. Like Indo-European language “family”.

                      The one that comprises French and Punjabi.

                      Call them French and Pakistanis cousins, whatever, I don’t really care.

                      As to Mingrelians, tell your fvriends that consulted you on history, they are either not completely honest to you, or forget too fast:


                      During the Zviadist uprising of 1993, fighters from the “Mkhedrioni” (Horsemen — one of Georgia’s main paramilitary groups who fought on Shevardnadze’s side) engaged in looting, justifying their actions in conversations with Prism’s correspondent by saying that they weren’t robbing “real” Georgians — just Mingrelians.

                      During the civil war, virtually every city and village through which government troops passed was subjected to looting, the consequences of which are felt to this day. As Prism’s correspondent can attest, homes destroyed during the civil war can be seen everywhere, even today.


                      But you really waste too much of my time.

  2. And you know what Dima? why don’t your aggressor RuSSian murderers just get out of Daghestan.

    The honest and best decision for all sane people, except for you and your likes, huh?

    I’m sure that there are plenty of vacancies in the OMON fascist blackguard movement to harass old Russian ladies and men to give them that feeling of absolute control over the poor citizens.

  3. The latest from Paul Goble. Love or hate Russia, read it all.

    …In contrast to the up-beat and prettified picture of life in [Siberia] that accompanied Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s recent road trip there, journalist Yuri Pankov provides a Muscovite’s view of what he describes as a dying society in a 6000-word diary entitled “The Brotherhood of the End” ( and

    Like most diaries – and Pankov spent several weeks in various cities and villages of Siberia this summer – this one features more specific facts than generalizations. But the journalist is more interested than many in moving from the one to the other, and that is perhaps why so many Siberians have paid attention, despite their anger at his words (

    According to Pankov, his visit this time – he was last there in the 1980s when conditions were better or at least people were more optimistic – forced him to conclude that “THE COUNTRY HAD DIED. [Emphasis in the original.] Without exaggeration. But no one has taken note of this. They have simply forgotten it for a long, long time.”

    In many ways, Siberian cities like Bratsk recall the situation that existed in Moscow “at the beginning of the 1990s.” An “unbelievable” number of drunks, “no churches in principle” because the Soviets had closed them, and “the improbable popularity of taxis” which “simple people use even to go for bread because they are so fearful of thieves and murderers.”

    Moreover, Pankov continues, “Siberia and the Far East are lost already. Everyone [there] curses the Chinese but they understand that without them nothing good can be expected. It is better if one’s husband is a Chinese, there is work in Chinese companies, there are Chinese fruits, Chinese restaurants, and vacations in China.”

    Environmental degradation is extreme. In Bratsk, people often hear sirens from the factories, just as in Soviet times, to announce that the firms are putting wastes into the air or water. And the water in the lakes and rivers is so polluted that doctors say no one should eat the fish from them, although local people in their poverty do so anyway.

    In many Siberian villages and even cities, there are three times as many women as men, a situation that often leads to irregular living arrangements. Women are afraid to get abortions lest they be left unable to have more children, and in some places, they have to give birth in emergency service vehicles because hospitals are so far away.

    In some villages, he writes, the number of people actually living is much smaller than the number officials think are there. Local people conceal the deaths and departures in order to continue to receive the pensions of the departed, the only way such residents have to survive given low incomes and the high cost of food from other parts of Russia.

    Moreover, Pankov says, his visit proved to him that Siberia has not been “electrified” as many believe. That is a myth. Many places do not have any electricity at all, and even in tourist centers on Lake Baikal, there is power from local diesel generators only for “three or four hours in the evening and one hour in the morning.”

    Conditions are now so bad, he continues, that many young people, even though they fear what may happen to them, view service in the military as “salvation,” a way out of their difficulties and one that resembles what many Soviet citizens felt as a result of collectivization in the 1920s and 1930s.

    That is what Siberian villages and towns are like now, he says. “All Siberia is one big de-kulakized village.”

    Siberians, he writes, view political parties as “commercial enterprises” rather than expressions of the views of one or another part of the population. They see elections are completely fraudulent, and because television exposes them to the better life that Russians elsewhere have, many of them are increasingly angry at Moscow.

    For the people he met, “a national leader in Russia would be only someone who builds roads. Nothing more than that is necessary. That is, in general, no rights, no elections, land, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, or conscience – here in one settlement of 1400 residents there are no believers at all.”

    The only ones who have even been baptized are those who came to Siberia to earn money in the 1960s or who are the descendents of exiled kulaks. Indeed, Pankov says, people in the villages, “live like animals. They throw trash directly out the door.” Even the youngest curse rather than speak. “The people here are degenerating.”

    Only roads will save the situation, he continues, but he provides the interesting detail that as in Soviet times, there are no local maps. He asked various officials to provide him one and even after more than a week, no one could find even a single map of the district. Given that people had nowhere to go, that ultimately was no surprise.

    “One of the leading intellectuals of Bratsk,” Pankov said, is a veterinarian who is able to speak freely because he is subordinate not to local officials but to people in Irkutsk. He was the one who said no one should eat fish from the local reservoir, lest the poisons in the water make people ill.
    And the veterinarian summed up his feelings about the situation in his Siberian city with words that Pankov might have been able to agree with, at least in part. “A fish rots from the head,” as the saying goes, the vet said, but at the present time, “the country is rotting from Moscow.”

  4. Luzhkov fired:
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    • Garnet | September 24, 2010 at 1:10 am | Reply

      All this campaign against Luzhkov is a Medvedev’s initiative which is likely failed since Putin won’t allow to remove such a big ally. […] Medvedev is a toy which serves Putin as a cloak in order to pretend there’s a democracy in Russia, so that Putin is able to be in power “legally”, behind the scenes. But lately, it seems, his toy had gone sort of a little off the track by trying to fight corruption in Moscow. […] But Medvedev had probably already been told to shut up.

      I say: hey dude, do you know any business that you think would soon go bankrupt? I need to invest some money urgently.

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