Putin openly Threatens Peaceful Protesters with Violence

So-called law enforcement officers following Vladimir Putin's advice in Moscow on August 31

Oleg Kozlovsky, writing on the Huffington Post, reveals how Vladimir Putin has declared open, violent war against peaceful protesters (just for daring to march without a license, not for defying an order to disperse) and his own presidency-for-life:

Today’s Kommersant publishes a fresh interview with Vladimir Putin, where the dictator comments on opposition rallies:

Look, all our opponents support a Rechtsstaat. What is a Rechtsstaat? It is obedience to the existing law. What does the existing law say about [Dissenters'] Marches? You need to get a permission from the authorities. Got it? Go and protest. Otherwise you don’t have this right. If you go out without having the right, get beaned with a baton. That’s it!

Putin manages to lie three times in this short passage:

1. Rechtsstaat (“правовое государство”) is not just about obedience to every law. It is also about laws being fair, about everybody being equal before the law, about having independent judiciary system etc. Do we have anything of this? No. The government adopts any laws they want, including non-constitutional, they apply them discriminatively (e.g., United Russia has on many occasions organized rallies in violation of the law but nobody dared to “bean” them for that), and they control the courts, so that the protesters can’t defend their rights there. So what kind of “obedience” can Putin demand from the opposition? I’m not even asking if Putin has heard about the term “civil disobedience” and that it is often used to effectively advance rule of law.

2. Even in Putin’s law, there is no such thing as a “permission” to hold protests. The law on gatherings, meetings, demonstrations, marches and pickets, according to which all rallies are to be held, you only need to file a notice to local authorities that you are going to hold an action. Strategy 31 (which Putin most probably is referring to) makes it every time, complying with the law absolutely. And still, every time they get “beaned” by Putin’s riot police. So who is violating the law?

3. The last, smaller but remarkable lie: Putin also “forgot” that his own law forbids to use batons and other “special means” to disperse peaceful rallies, and the new law on police will forbid to “bean” people, i.e. beat them on the head. The law rightfully calls it “cruel treatment” and it doesn’t take a degree in law (which Putin kind of has) to understand why it is so. But if you yourself are a cruel person, this kind of treatment is just right: “That’s it!”

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20 responses to “Putin openly Threatens Peaceful Protesters with Violence

  1. @3. The last, smaller but remarkable lie: Putin also “forgot” that his own law forbids to use batons and other “special means” to disperse peaceful rallies, and the new law on police will forbid to “bean” people, i.e. beat them on the head. The law rightfully calls it “cruel treatment” and it doesn’t take a degree in law (which Putin kind of has) to understand why it is so.

    Any “Russian law” doesn’t mean anything in practice. In theory, the “Russian law” forbid its “enforcers” from, for example, shooting the unarmed citizens (of all ages and sexes) in cold blood, “disappearing” them without trace (NACHT UND NEBEL), rounding up and torturing people at random, raping and strangling women (raping men too), burning children alive, gassing civilians to death, mutilating and destroying human corpses, robbing at gunpoint, looting and destroying property, and so on, yet really out of hundreds of thousands of such cases only under “Putin’s presidency” reign of terror only literally a handful were ever prosecuted.

    • Robert, open your eyes and look very carefully at the photo! On the ground a woman lay in a fit of liberal hysteria. To her bent only one policeman. He was obviously confused and not know what to do with it. Nearby are two colonels (may be one of them major or lieutenant colonel), who would never sully his hands. All other around – that journalists (about 9) that did not help her (not even trying to save from the bloody dog Putin). And enjoy the documentation on the phone and professional cameras. I understand that the police in Russia is not sugar-boys, but I have an objective truth. My conclusion – this performance.

      LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:

      You’re the one who needs to open his eyes.

      (1) It would be a crime to help her.
      (2) You probably also think Anna Politkovskaya was just pretending to get shot.
      (3) If you think it’s a funny game to get arrested and thrown into a Russian jail, where many (like Magnitsky) have died horrible deahts, it is only because YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THE INSIDE OF A RUSSIAN JAIL. But just wait, sooner or later just like Stalin Putin will come for you too.
      (4) You’re ignoring THE POINT, which is that THIS WOMAN WAS NOT BREAKING THE LAW and the police have no right to even speak to her. She was merely assembling in public to discuss politics, as is her right under the Constitution. She does not need a permit to do so, but the police required one.
      (5) You’re ignoring PUTIN’S OWN WORDS. He openly said cops should beat those who dare to assemble without a permit.

      You’re, in short, an utter ignoramus.

      • You have in your head are all very confused. And Politkovskaya, and prisons, and Putin with a baton. Only photo I do not see any police baton or Politkovskaya, neither Putin. I see a herd of crazy delight journalists relish the picture. A policeman in the photo only with radio-station in hand.
        Then again you’re lying.

        LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:

        WE’RE confused??? We’re talking about RUSSIA and you put up videos of AMERICA. Now THAT is confused!!

        • Ooooh what a serious problem with your head! This is interesting, with whom you are talking to? What video Im put?
          By the way why one my post deleted? Same a problem?

      • As to the LR’s post:

        1) LR lies.

        2) Oh, LR is so demagogue-like on this:))

        This woman is just like Anna, killed by Putin and his bloody gang, really, haven’t you heard? Of course, killed, just like Martin Luther King.

        The only difference is King was [http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/who-killed-martin-luther-king/ killed] by the US authorities, and Anna was [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7483641.stm killed] by her former Chechen friends. And this woman’s still alive and well.

        3) None of these protesters ever stayed in jail longer than 15 days. None was fined for more than 100$.

        4) LR lies. This demonstration blocked traffic around Tverskaya street, the main Moscow street, on one of major Moscow squares, Mayakovskaya, on working day, Tuesday. Blocking important roads without permission is breaking law in most countries. Including the US and the UK. It is a pure idiotism to think anybody is free to just go and block traffic on Tverskaya or W23rd or Westway.

        5) And here LR lies again.

        • Dear Dima boy:

          Could you please precise how the “[t]hirty-four-year-old Chechnya resident Rustam Makhmudov”, “Dzhabrail and Ibragim Makhmudov – brothers of Mr Makhmudov – and Sergey Khadzhikurbanov” (“an officer with the country’s security service”), who in July 2008 were “expected to go on trial soon”(and were since then then acquitted ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29282757/ ), were “her former Chechen friends”?

          I really wonder where did you get this information she was “friends” with a family of alleged Moscow-based hitmen.

          Come on, do not disappoint me.

          Btw, this website’s claim that

          “It took the jury 59 minutes to come back with their decision that Loyd Jowers, owner of Jim’s Grill, had participated in a conspiracy to kill King, a conspiracy that included J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI, Richard Helms and the CIA, the military, the Memphis Police Department (MPD), and organized crime. ”

          is a lie.

          The lawsuit was against Jowers and “other unknown co-conspirators.”

          • Bobby, I’m not even going to waste my time on looking for information for you this time. I wasted so many time before on giving you facts you just omiss in the next post, that I do not want to do this again.

            I just say your knowledge of both murders sucks massively. Prove me wrong.

            Just a little reference for you. Imagine receiving a letter, saying:

            “There is only one thing left for you to do. You know what it is…You better take it before your filthy, abnormal fraudulent self is bared to the nation.”

            And signed – FBI.

            Oh, yes, King was also the “most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country”. Dangerous – to the country. The characteristic is given by the FBI.

            As to the LR’s post – LR lies in every point.

  2. I guess a lot of Russians have been hit on the head a few times which would explain some of their behaviour.

    In my field of work I find that many Russians act in the manner of an abused child or animal. Expressionless, unwilling to make eye-contact and leaving the room when faced with the expressive nature of others. All this changes of course after 300 grams of vodka when the trapped personality is revealed in all its distorted and repressed glory, more often than not culminating in fisticuffs, groping, public urination, unprotected sex and sleeping in stairwells.

  3. What’s funny is that while you love riping on Russian authorities answering to liberal provocations (there are restrictions to the rights of assembly law, such as assemblies in restricted areas, ie: roads, railways, historic monuments, electric, hazardous workplaces, any protests which may cause harm to peaceful populace: Russian cops are allowed to deter any of these by force if necessary) you won’t mention anything about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBNP8ayrOig

    • I don’t think it’s a fair comparison; in Russia people have been effectively stripped of their right of ‘peaceful’ assembly and you’re lamenting the fact that some NRA die-hard’s in Louisiana had their ‘toys’ taken away from them following Katrina. Why don’t you instead campaign for the right to bear arms for Russian citizens so we can keep our government in check by going on shooting rampages in the Kremlin every time we need to ‘elect’ a new president/prime minister.

    • “Living in America means that we should be able to carry a handgun” – how right she is, this old lady from New Orleans. I mean, the murder capital. LMAO

      • This presumably states that whole USA lives in ghetto? This is another spam.

        Why hadn’t you uploaded this video together with Russian versions so that we could compare? Here are some videos of ordinary (by Russian standards) villages. They aren’t called ghettos for one plain reason: everything in Russia is already below ghetto level. Except big cities where thugs reside, of course.

        “Russian village shrinks under alcohol siege”:

        Leftovers of Russian village (video & slides):

        Young men celebrating (well, drinking to death):

        “Welcomefull” village:

        That’s already enough and I didn’t include [most] disturbing ones. One can see the rest of videos from YouTube suggestions column.

        This is what your country came to while you were lapping in your oil trap, battling inexistent “USA / NATO threat”, waving your nuclear button telling how great you will be again, robbing and fooling your people and spamming on foreign blogs in the end.

        The only way your country can become great is when your government finally will start to care about people and save their souls from darkness of lust, crime and poverty. Unfortunately you continue to cynically choose brute force and spam.

        • No, it states the US has ghettos.

          And that the US has one of the highest income inequality in the world.

          And that the US has the highest criminals within the population rate in the world.

          And that black men go to prison 10 times more often than whites.

          Nuff said.

        • Garnet, and, yes, ironically, nobody is fighting the US, outside of USian mind.

          Just in case you didn’t mention, we don’t comment on the blog called “la americanophobe”.

        • Garnet, я так понимаю, что говорю с эмигрантом. И Вам, наверное, уже больше немало лет, раз Вы зашли на этот сайт.

          Так вот, про пьянство статистика вся давно известна. Кто от чего вымирал, и когда прекратил, все давно написано.

          Итак: статистика WHO по потреблению алкоголя на душу населения. Россия – №19 в Европе. №1 (реальное состояние) – Ирландия. № 2-3 – Венгрия, Молдова. UK на 8 месте, Германия – на 7. Конечно, многие там пьют пиво/ вино. У нас уже молодежь тоже 90% алкоголя получает из пива. К сожалению, получает.

          Коэффициент DALY по алкоголю в России – около 1300 на 100 000 населения. То бишь, на 100 человек совместно теряется около 1,3 лет жизни из-за потребления алкоголя.

          Очень много, естественно, в огромной степени из-за низкого качества алкоголя, но совсем не причина “вымирания”, и не стоит того, чтобы в меня кидаться видео про пьяных готов и кадрами вымерших деревень.

          Проблема очень сильного уменьшения населения в Ельцинские годы очень проста – поломалась вся экономика, полностью сменилось общество. Куча людей уехала, большинство стали рожать меньше детей.

          Если Вам все-таки кажется, что дело в авторитаризме, который душит Россию, сравните Таджикистан и Эстонию по динамике естественного движения населения с 1990 г. Увидите, что в Прибалтике население (количество граждан и неграждан) уменьшилось гораздо сильнее, чем в России.

          Сейчас Россия из этой демографической ямы вполне себе выходит (совсем не с помощью эммиграции – как было 80% русских, так и осталось). И пьянство сокращается. Опять-таки, вся статистика в интернете есть. Просто ее немного сложно принять, если заранее уверен, что в этой стране ничего не может быть хорошо.

          Ну, а, конечно, если просто хочется поплеваться – плюйтесь на здоровье, только не в мою сторону тогда – выберите другого кого-нибудь.

  4. “Итак: статистика WHO по потреблению алкоголя на душу населения.” (It says: “Alcohol consumption per capita according to WHO”.)

    Dmitry! You are making a big mistake. We ARE NOT talking about amount of alcohol people consume! We are talking about QUALITY of this alcohol, the culture of drinking and how such consumption affects one’s life expectancy. I am very and well aware of how much Europe drinks. Some statistics place France on top. Some Luxembourg. Same way you should be aware of how much deaths are alcohol-related in your country and how it affects women and children. The bad news are roughly half of deaths are caused by alcohol in Russia. And you don’t even take into account that majority of your people drink because of neverending poverty. And I’m not even mentioning quality of Russian liquor— your alcohol industry doesn’t even belong to government — it’s sold out to private businesses which continue to spill out cheap booze.

    “То бишь, на 100 человек совместно теряется около 1,3 лет жизни из-за потребления алкоголя.” (It says: “Thus, every 100 men loose 1.3 years of life in summary.”)

    WHAT?! Are you sober yourself right now? How in the world it can be *only* 1.3 years in *summ* for 100 men? God. You realize yourself that this is blatant lie? With the average Russian consuming approximately 18 liters per person of pure alcohol each year (Google for it) you tell us that such amount of booze costs only 1.3 years for 100 men in summ? This is an absurd.

    “Очень много, естественно, в огромной степени из-за низкого качества алкоголя, но совсем не причина ‘вымирания’”. (It says: “Too much, actually, because of low alcohol quality, but surely can’t be a cause of deaths”.)

    Yep, you are drunk. Trying to convince people here that big amounts of booze can not be a reason of deaths — what reaction are you awaiting for? You are a funny troll indeed.

    “Проблема очень сильного уменьшения населения в Ельцинские годы очень проста – поломалась вся экономика, полностью сменилось общество. Куча людей уехала, большинство стали рожать меньше детей.” (It says: “The problem of great population reduce in Yeltsin years is very simple: broken aconomy, society changed, many people fled abroard, birth rate decreaed.”).

    Dmitry, you are obviously a Russian patriot. Well, I mean, you think you are. And believe me — I’m not trying to insult you, though you are already threw a good amount of offence here. But 20 years passed — and you still don’t realize what exactly happened / happening in / to your state. In this short sentence you manage to mistake twice:

    1. Your economy didn’t break. It plain didn’t exist. What you call an economy was a government controlled distribution of goods. Real economy means a living organism controlled and regulated by people, by itself, sometimes by government in times of crisis, by a law of supply and demand, which you are obviously aware of. Things as such — can be broken. Things like planned pseudo-economy cannot — they simply disappear with government, allowing it leftovers to be acquired by gangs. See my point? Market economy doesn’t disappear when a flag on state house changes. Thus, your country infrastructure and “economy” was sold out and divided between your own communists — instead of building a new honest structure they put their hands on what belonged to people.

    2. Society changed. How. In what possible way society could change in a few months? It didn’t change — the reason why Soviet Union fell is that it (society) stayed in darkness for decades, fooled by government and suppressed by force. If Soviet people were so solid in 80′s then why your men started to drink, steal, kill and betray so easily? Why your oh-so-clean Russian girls sold their bodies so easily turning into terrible whores? Why your government threw away all your culture and values in exchange for a few bucks? It’s because US convinced them all to do so? No. It’s because you system literally washed your souls away. You can’t see the nature of problem, — you can see only it’s shadow, post-effect. The collapse of USSR didn’t change your people — they were already changed, it only exposed how deep you souls fell and continue to drown today.

    3, 4. The effect of above.

    “Если Вам все-таки кажется, что дело в авторитаризме, который душит Россию, сравните Таджикистан и Эстонию по динамике естественного движения населения с 1990 г.” (It says: “If you still think that it’s tyranny actually the cause of Russia’s problems, then take a look at Tajikistan and Estonia population dynamic since 1990.”).

    I DO NOT CARE about Tajikistan or Estonia. We are talking about RUSSIA — YOUR country. Stop seeking excuses for your problems and deeds in another countries or retarded videos over internet — they will not help to solve problems, they only pinpoint how blind you are.

    “Ну, а, конечно, если просто хочется поплеваться – плюйтесь на здоровье, только не в мою сторону тогда – выберите другого кого-нибудь.” (It says: “Well, if you simply want to offend someone — then do it, but not me — choose another one.”).

    Rofl. Not a single my comment contains any offence to someone or to you personally. It’s you who trolled all recent content and offended people. Yet you dare to give such advices to me.

    Good luck on your own. I suppose you will respond me with another set of retarded videos portraying the whole world as a bunch of drug addicts and you Russians as a last outpost of Light in this dark medieval and retarded world. But it won’t solve your problems — only make them worse.

    • @”Your economy didn’t break. It plain didn’t exist. What you call an economy was a government controlled distribution of goods.”

      Wrong. It was (mostly) government-controlled production of goods. In any post-USSR country production of goods fallen sharply after the USSR breakdown. In most, it still did not reach pre-USSR levels.

      @”If Soviet people were so solid in 80′s then why your men started to drink, steal, kill and betray so easily? Why your oh-so-clean Russian girls sold their bodies so easily turning into terrible whores?”

      I think, after all, I’m talking to an emigrant. The one that claims “Not a single my comment contains any offence to someone or to you personally”. ROFL, as you say, dear Garnet. may I just discontinue this theme about “terrible whores”?

      @”I DO NOT CARE about Tajikistan or Estonia. We are talking about RUSSIA — YOUR country.”

      You don’t care for logics. Because your hatred is a matter of pure belief, not knowledge, right?

      @”WHAT?! Are you sober yourself right now? How in the world it can be *only* 1.3 years in *summ* for 100 men? God. You realize yourself that this is blatant lie?”

      Here we go with the WHO. Please Google for the document called “gbddeathdalycountryestimates2004.xls”. that’s a WHO database on causes of deaths for 2004, and DALY rates in member countries. A very interesting document.

      DALY (Disability-adjusted life year) in “alcohol use disorders” for Russia is:

      1277 per 100,000. Which means exactly 1,2 years of life are lost due to alcohol abuse per 100 citizens. Hungary, Estonia, Latvia, Moldova are all in the same group. And it was 2004.

      Again, hardly a reason of “depopulation” you speak about.

      @”Yep, you are drunk. Trying to convince people here that big amounts of booze can not be a reason of deaths — what reaction are you awaiting for? You are a funny troll indeed.”

      On trolls:

      if I were to decide, where is a real troll, –

      the WHO that states we lose 1,3 years of life per 100 people because of alcohol abuse,

      or Garnet, that says we’re “dying out massively” because of “booze”, – while every other source says neighbouring countries are actually “dying out” much faster,

      I’d say Garnet is either a troll, or wrong in the head.

      Overall, Garnet, I now see you don’t need reasons to hate.

      I have provided every possible statistics – alcohol consumption and abuse numbers, population levels, DALY – everything. You gave only offencive language of “terrible Russian whores” in return.

      You’ve got your beliefs, and I’m not going to call them in question. Be like you are and stay where you are too.

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