Moscow: For “Russians” Only

Paul Goble reports (also see Michele Berdy’s mocking, acidic piece in the Moscow Times):

A senior Moscow Duma official says that his city plans to “work up a collection of rules” which will help those coming to Moscow to fit in with the style of life of the Russian city and know from a pamphlet to be published outlining “what is acceptable and what isn’t” for all residents in what he described as an “ethnic Russian” city.

In an interview published in today’s Rossiiskaya Gazeta, Mikhail Solomentsev, the chairman the city Duma’s committee on inter-regional ties and nationality policy, said that such a set of rules will help unite newcomers with longtime residents by stressing what the two have in common rather than what separates them. But his comments about this plan make it clear that he believes it is migrant workers and non-Russians who must adapt rather than the Russians into whose city the former have moved, an attitude that almost certainly will exacerbate the already tense ethnic relations in Moscow whatever Solomentsev in fact hopes for.

The paper’s Lyubov Pyatiletova asked the Moscow city Duma official to explain why in the city’s recently adopted conception of nationality policy, “it is written that Moscow is not only a megalopolis and the capital of Russia but also that it is an [ethnic] Russian city,” given that “representatives of more than 160 nationalities live in it.” Solomentsev replied that this provision of the conception “means that Moscow is a city, the way of life of which is based on Russian culture and traditions laid down over the course of the centuries and that all who come here to live must take that into account.” By specifying this, he continued, it will help “all residents of the capital without exception to become Muscovites.”

That in turn means that they will be “members of a community which is greater than a nationality to the extent that in it are intermixed various cultures each of which has its own Muscovite style of life and its own rules of behavior. Look at any arrival,” he said, “and how he chances after literally five years here!” Up to now, he continued, there “exist unwritten rules which residents of our city must follow. For example, not to sacrifice a sheep in a courtyard, not to cook shashlyk on a balcony, not to go about the city in national dress, and to speak Russian.” But given the influx of gastarbeiters, some do not know these “unwritten” requirements.

Consequently, he said, “in the near future we want to develop a collection of rules which will help those who come here and remain in Moscow as permanent residents to fit in.” Diaspora groups have been asked to help, Solomentsev said, and “when we receive their proposals, we will invite scholars and as a result will be worked out the Muscovite’s code of conduct.”

“An individual will arrive, and those from his area already living here will give him this booklet: look and recognize that here this is acceptable and this is not acceptable.” Pyatiletova suggested that this represented a major change in a city where up until now the government has “considered it necessary to help preserve the culture and language of representatives of other cultures.” Does the shift Solomentsev proposes mean that national language schools will cease to exist?

Solomentsev came very close to saying exactly that. He suggested that “the ethnic component” in schools “will be preserved” but only outside of the normal curriculum. Students can study their native language or dances and the like, he suggested “after their lessons and possibly in another place.” That approach, he continued, reflects the judgment of city officials that Moscow should “stress not what divides the representatives of various nationalities but what unites them,” just as the Soviet leadership did during World War II, and consequently it is entirely appropriate for Russia now.

Just how committed Solomentsev and those of like mind in the Moscow city government are to Russian acculturation if not Russian assimilation of members of other nationalities was highlighted in two other comments he made about the future of nationality policy in the Russian capital. On the one hand, he noted that the city Duma has proposed to the all-Russia one that Russian law be changed so that no one charged with any crime involving ethnic or religious hatred could ask for a jury trial. In a multi-national state like the Russian Federation, such crimes are, like terrorism, directed against the state. And on the other, Solomentsev said that Muscovites feel they are being overrun by non-Russian gastarbeiters whatever the official statistics say. Such feelings reflect the failure of the central Russian government to adopt a sensible policy limiting migration, he continued, and the city is not to blame.

Solomentsev’s approach would be dangerous enough even if it remained limited to the city of Moscow, but the Russian capital has often been the originator of dangerous ideas that have either spread to other cities and regions of the Russian Federation or been adopted by the central government. In either case, the Russianizing and Russifying impulses behind what Solomentsev is proposing, however popular they may be among ethnic Russians, are certain to be viewed in a very different and more negative way by the nearly one-quarter of the population of that country that belong to other nations.

48 responses to “Moscow: For “Russians” Only

  1. An interesting comment from another website:

    Russian is historically a mongoloid race, along with its bastardized language.

    SCIENTISTS researching cures for alcoholism and hangovers say that they have found a genetic link between Russians’ traditional weakness for drink and the marauding Mongol armies of Genghis Khan.

    As many as 50 per cent of Muscovites are estimated to have inherited Mongol genes that make them absorb more alcohol into the bloodstream and break it down at a slower rate than most Europeans, they say.

    That means that they get more drunk and have worse hangovers, and are more likely to become addicted to alcohol, given Russia’s taste for vodka, its harsh climate and the social and economic chaos after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    “The difference is huge — in reaction speed, memory, hand tremor — and in how they recover,” Vladimir Nuzhny, of the Health Ministry’s National Narcology Research Centre, said. “On average, 50 per cent of people in Moscow have this Mongoloid gene. So this, we think, is part of the problem.”

    • I don’t know how true this is. I think that alcoholism is a cultural rather than genetic phenomenon (i.e., biologically inherited thing).

      I mean, if the Mongoloid gene thing was true, wouldn’t be actual modern Mongols even more likely to be alcoholics. And I never heard that Mongols drink more than Russians

    • Yes, and with Russians so are Ukrainians, whose “language” (surzhik) is further bastardized version of Russian. In fact, in Ukraine there is no language but a dog dialect, so that even ukrainian-born writers preferred to write their novels in Russian but not in the ukro-dog-barking dialect (for example, Gogol’).

      • Even Yanukovich and Yusshenko look like mongols, and Yanukovich doesn’t even know the official country language! His name has mongolean-tartar roots, see http://www.ua-today.com/modules/myarticles/article_storyid_31574.html
        Timoshenko just learned the Malorossian surgik and speaks with funny mistakes. Really a bastardized dialect, that’s true.

        • Sochi wrote,
          Really a bastardized dialect, that’s true.

          comment;
          you mean the russian language is a bastardized dialect, of course. Russian languaged which is also called sobatsyi yazyk is becoming a dead language fast – even simple russian people don’d want to speak their own languaged.

      • Could one reason be that the Czar prohibited publishing anything in the Ukranian language? Reading your drivel about the “dog dialect” I understand why so many Ukranians hate your country.

        You really are a despicable person, but fortunately times have changed and Ukranians don’t have to beg you or your current Czar for permission to use their own language

        • Yes, the Russians have a history of banning languages of those they oppress.

          And then they wonder why all their former imperial subjects hate them.

          • Not true — there were also writers and poets writing in Ukrainian dialect, like Shevchenko, but nobody knows them except Ukrainian readership. By the way, even Shevchenko wrote part of his “masterpieces” in Russian, to get a bit of popularity.

            • They could not publish anything written in Ukrainian — it was prohibited. So, some of them were forced to publish it outside the Czar’s reach, e.g., in Western areas under Austrian control such as Lemberg.

              Shevchenko was particularly viciously persecuted and it’s a historic fact. I never read anything written by him but I know he is national poet of Ukraine, so there must be some excellent quality about him.

              Buy mocking him you insult Ukrainians and I don’t see what you a trying to achieve. OK, I guess I know why, never mind.

              • I never read anything written by him but I know he is national poet of Ukraine, so there must be some excellent quality about him.

                He was loved and massively popularised by Stalin.

                Check yourself, if you don’t believe me.

  2. Russian population as a whole is over 60% mongol. 400 hundred years of total mongol domination [read 400 years of mongols men raping russian women and until now the mixing of races is still going on]. So russian are truly eurasians and they should stay east of Ural Mountains for the sake of a
    European culture.

    • Oh baby:) Hopefully you’re not from a people living near Russians, for then you’re Mongol too:)

      And do you remember Georgian women with heels cut by Persians? From your beloved Griboyedov times?:)

      • dmytry wrote;

        Oh baby:) Hopefully you’re not from a people living near Russians, for then you’re Mongol too:)

        And do you remember Georgian women with heels cut by Persians? From your beloved Griboyedov times?:)

        comment;
        dimasha, griboyedov, you mean the one who on his arrival in Persia, as an russian ambassador, was slaughter by the host countrie – the persians simply cut his head off… THIS WAS ANOTHER GLARING ‘TRIUMPTH’ OF RUSSIAN DIMPOMACY…IN SOVIET OCCUPIED POLAND POLISH PEOPLE HAD A TASTE OF RUSSIAN INFLUENCE – AFTER RUSSIAN OCCUPYING FORCES LEFT THE BARRACKS IN LEGNICA AND SWINOUJSCIE – THOSE PLACES WERE QUARANTEENED, DESINFECTED BY POLISH AUTHORITIES TO NO AWAIL – FOR YEARS THE PLACES WERE RUSSIAN/SOVIET SOLDIER LIVED THERE WAS SMELL OF EXCREMENTS, URINE, UNWASHED BODIES, ALKOHOL FOR YEARS – TRULLY GREAT RUSSIAN CULTURAL INFLUENCE ON EUROPE. I PERSONALLY BROUGHT SOME BRITSH AND FRENCH TO WITNESS THIS HORROR. THEY HAD A BALL……

        • Guess what, you need to check where Griboyedov is buried, and think about it.

        • mangos wrote;

          I guess you enjoyed this smell, didn’t you? But now Russians have to desinfect all the area near the Smolensk airport — so much polish excrements and urine is left after the landing of Leshek Kaczynski and his russophobe team there…

          comments;

          seyczas my ponimayem poczemy ryskich nazyywaut; obosranye kasaglazye, ryaby, wanyushczye, vory
          ruskiy sebya czuwstvuyut khorosho tolko v gulagach – vy ubili Polskovo presidenta – nu i szto ?? vy zdykhaeytie medlenno – kakaya prelest smotrets kak ubivayut ruskik v kyrgyzystanie v chechni, dagestanie……

          • mangos wrote;

            I guess you enjoyed this smell, didn’t you? But now Russians have to desinfect all the area near the Smolensk airport — so much polish excrements and urine is left after the landing of Leshek Kaczynski and his russophobe team there…

            comment;
            you russians are dirty, smelly, disgusting, primitive and you are so proud of it – you should stay in the gutters…

  3. To:

    All clueless teenage nashi – brainwashed useful idiots – kremlin propagandists – and – sockpuppets and trolls.

    Instead of repeatedly posting disinformation about the Ukrainian and Russian language, you should learn some historical facts:

    Ukrainian is an East Slavic language spoken in Ukraine and in Ukrainian communities in neighboring Belarus, russia, Poland, and Slovakia. Ukrainian is a lineal descendant of the colloquial language used in Kievan Rus (10th–13th centuries).

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/613050/Ukrainian-language

    >> 1708 muscovy changes their name to russian empire.

    1709 Peter constructed a new narrative for his realm. Instead of being Muscovy, it was to be Russia. As such, he and his state could claim lineage with the Kyivan state called Rus that had accepted Christianity in 988 and collapsed in the 13th century. In one simple historical revision that complemented his opening to the West, Peter and his realm would be transformed from Asiatic upstarts to a European empire. Kiev would become the “mother of all Russian cities.”

    >>1710 Pacta et Constitutiones Legum Libertatumque Exercitus Zaporoviensis) was a 1710 constitutional document written by Hetman Pylyp Orlyk. It established a democratic standard for the separation of powers in government between the legislative, executive, and judiciary branches, well before the publication of Montesquieu’s Spirit of the Laws. The Constitution also limited the executive authority of the hetman, and established a democratically elected Cossack parliament called the General Council.

    Pylyp Orlyk’s Constitution was unique for its historic period, and was one of the first state constitutions in Europe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Pylyp_Orlyk

    Orlyk’s basic law never entered into force, and is, by contemporary standards, a simplistic text. Yet, in its time, this document gained recognition as a serious document, and served as a blueprint for future constitutional designs.

    Articles 1-3 dealt with general Ukrainian affairs. They proclaimed the Orthodox faith to be the faith of Ukraine, and independent of the patriarch of Moscow. The articles also recognized the need for an anti-Russian alliance between Ukraine and the Crimean Khanate.

    >> 1720. Peter I’s ukase banning the publication and printing of books in Ukrainian.

    >> 1740’s The first Grammar of Russian Language was written by Vasily Adodurov in the 1740s, and a more influential one, by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755.

    {PLEASE NOTE: Ukrainian books were banned by the kremlin before the russian language had grammer!}

    ****************

  4. Soccer Fanatic

    What do you want Moscow to become? Amsterdam?

    Nice and neat tolerant democratic smoked out town where brightly dressed transvestites proudly march along the canals and windmills while local population waves at them with tulips? A melting pot of Europe, occupied by drug addicts, dealers and characters from the 3rd world who have more rights than the locals?

    Or perhaps Paris where a white French is a myth and the city resembles Ridyah, Saudi Arabia?
    Where the national soccer team has 3 white French players left and everyone else is black?

    It’s not about racism whatsoever, it’s just an example of what liberal values eventually do to your country if you don’t preserve your own culture and roots.

    Good on Russia for trying to preserve the culture and engaging foreigners in it, rather than allowing foreigners to push their values on the country they live in.

    • Hey, ever heard 80% of Brussels population are immigrants with a culture quite distantly related to that of Walloon? Funny thing, isn’t it?

      • Soccer Fanatic

        Perhaps that’s why Belgium became the first country in Europe to ban hijab/burkas. Good on them.

        It’s pretty ironic that Western Europe screamed freedom and let social tolerance get to the point where it actually turned it, resorting in going back to more conservative, controlling measures.

        Russia simply never let it happen. That’s why the culture has been preserved. It has traditions, just like India, China, Korea, Japan.

        Western Europe is becoming a melting pot.

        You know, I’ve been watching the World Cup for 40 years and this is the first year I’m looking at a German team and reading names like Serdar Tasci, Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil, Cacau, Jerome Boateng.

        I understand America & Canada being melting pots because neither have any history or culture (that hasn’t been erased by the white folk) but every European nation has centuries of history.

        No, Turkey will never officially be a part of EU. But the entire EU is already Turkey. When I hear stories of Norwegians, Swedes & Danes being racist towards immigrants – good on them! You come to OUR country, therefore you must follow OUR rules, our culture and our values. If that doesn’t work – leave. There’s no “fighting for your rights”. No, you cannot cover your face in school.

        Anyway, you get the idea.

        • There are two tendencies.

          First, immigrants come to Europe, and, some of them, are assimilated in the Western society. The more tolerant the society is, the more immigrants assimilate (but there are limits, of course, and 100% would never abandon their own culture).

          Part of immigrants does not assimilates, does not “melt” at all – first of all, most Muslims.

          Second, there grows anger against immigrants in native Europeans, because many immigrants do not “melt” in the “melting pot”.

          As a result, Europeans tend to vote for right-wing parties. This leads to less tolerance towards immigrants in politics (Switzerland, Belgium, France, etc.).

          This leads to even more tensions in these countries, as immigrants get assimilatesd slower, and politics becomes more and more right-wing.

          The question for Europe now is:

          Would there be enough time to assimilate Muslims before all politics in Europe get right wing?

          • I agree, Europe does a very poor job of assimilating immigrants. If they let them in, they must do much more to help them get incorporated into the mainstream.

            • Europe is not doing anything. Guys, let me be clear: this consumer society:

              1) Consumes the world, eating it out (resources, nature) faster each year,

              2) Consumes our cultures, traditions etc faster each year (atomizing our societies to provide better consumption levels).

              With this, it’s absolutely no surprise every culture in modern Western civilization decays.

        • Your overt racism is truly disgusting, but I am not surprised

          • Soccer Fanatic

            Why are you not surprised? Because you think I’m Russian? lol

            wrong.

            I’m a Brazilian Canadian. I have no problem with immigrants here. Because those who come here want to be “American” and “Canadian”. Those who come to Europe just freeload. They’re not proud of being Norwegian or German or Swiss or whatever.

            Most German, Swedish etc problems come from Turkish and Middle Eastern immigrants.

            I can bet you that Korean, Japanese, Indian, Chinese would be just as intolerant towards other cultures who would want to come and live there and not pay any respect to local culture. Russia is in the same boat. It’s a country with a rich culture and traditions so if you want to come there to promote your own traditions & believes, think twice.

            • Unfortunately most of its traditions involve genocide against ethnic minorities, racism, spousal abuse, perversion of Orthodox doctrines, alcoholism, child abuse, murder, rape, pillage……

              That being said, they do write some awesome classical music.

              • Sad Georgians don’t have any classical composers:(

                In all other things named they sure beat Russians.

                • Not really D-tard.

                  Russians are far more well known than Georgians in all categories…..

                  Considering that Russians are perilously close to losing their Orthodox status, due to the Church selling cigarettes etc….

                  Really D-tard, you are a substandard type.

                • dymytry wrote;

                  Sad Georgians don’t have any classical composers:(

                  In all other things named they sure beat Russians.

                  comment;

                  dimasha, bednashka, Georgians adopted christianity – seven hundred years before Russians – so when Georgians were reading the Bible, the russians were still sitting on the trees. What do Russians have to offer besides gulags, chernobyl, tea with polonium….

                  • I believe they adopted Christianity in some year BC :)

                    • Really D-tard, your posts are without value, substance or intelligence.

                      BTW retarded one, the Georgians adopted Christianity in 327 as the state religion, at a time when Russians were still sacrificing children to their dark Gods.

              • The problem is that, compared to Russia and Japan, Georgia never had an empire. Still every other nation on Caucasus dislikes Georgians for their imminent racism. That’s why our little Andrew’s posts are so venomous – he’s just jealous:)

                • Oh I don’t know D-Tard, the Georgians actually have pretty good relations with Azerbaijan, Armenia, and also with many of the peoples of the north Caucasus.

                  Actually it is Russians and Ossetians that are pretty much the most hated people in the Caucasus.

                  • Really D-tard, you are pathetic.

                    Your posts are generally infantile, and without supporting links.

                    Your intelligence is definitely sub par, and a good example of the inferior morals and education found in Russia.

                • dymytry wrote

                  The problem is that, compared to Russia and Japan, Georgia never had an empire. Still every other nation on Caucasus dislikes Georgians for their imminent racism. That’s why our little Andrew’s posts are so venomous – he’s just jealous:)

                  comment;

                  little dymasha;

                  What about russians – ‘belowed all over the world’ -according to crude russian propaganda – while in reality russians are being slaughtered in Chechnia, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Kyrgyzystan… what went wrong dumbasha????

  5. PART II :

    To:

    All clueless teenage nashi – brainwashed useful idiots – kremlin propagandists – and – sockpuppets and trolls.

    Instead of repeatedly posting disinformation about the Ukrainian and Russian language, you should learn some historical facts:

    >> 1753. Ban {BY THE KREMLIN} on the tuition in Ukrainian at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy.

    >> 1769. Ban {BY THE KREMLIN} on Ukrainian ABC books.

    >> 1775. Destruction of the Zaporizka Sich and closure of Ukrainian schools at Cossack centres.

    >> 1784. Only “Pure Russian” is allowed {BY THE KREMLIN} as the language of instruction at the Kyiv Religious Academy. {BEFORE THE MOSKALI CAME, UKRAINIAN WAS THE LANGUAGE OF KYIV}

    >> 1825 Modern Russian is sometimes said to begin with Pushkin.

    “Of course, I loathe my homeland from head to toe – But I was annoyed when a foreigner shares this feeling with me”. Pushkin

    >> 1830’s Alexander Pushkin is usually credited with developing Russian literature. Not only is he seen as having originated the highly nuanced level of language which characterizes Russian literature after him, but he is also credited with substantially augmenting the Russian lexicon. Where he found gaps in the Russian vocabulary, he devised calques. His rich vocabulary and highly sensitive style are the foundation for Russian literature. Russian literature virtually begins with Alexander Pushkin. His talent set up new records for development of the Russian language. He became the father of Russian literature in the 19th century.

    {PLEASE NOTE: The kremlin was banning Ukrainian books and literature for over a hundred years before “russia” had literature or a vocabulary!}

    • All the “LES” fairy tales are a complete joke, a typical “ukro” disinformation — it is popular now in Ukraine to rewrite the history. Kievan Rus’ was NOT Ukraine, it was Russia. The first mention of the term “Russia” goes back to the 9th century. And the ukrainian dialect is a bad degraded mixture of Russian and Polnish words, so that even the Ukrainian President and Prime Minister DON’T SPEAK UKRAINIAN DIALECT. So does a half of Ukraine, preferring Russian to communicate.

  6. In 1862 all Ukrainian sunday schools were abolished and proscribed (at the time there were more than 100 of them in existence). In 1863 Petr Valuyev, the minister of internal affairs issued a so-called Valuev Circular in which he stated that the Ukrainian language never existed, doesn’t exist, and cannot exist.[4] The circular severely limited any use of Ukrainian language in public life.

    In 1876 tsar Alexander II of Russia issued Ems Ukaz, in which the Ukrainian language was effectively liquidated from all public life.

    Please note the absurd logic of the kremlin:

    1862 – The Circular also stated that “no separate Little Russian language ever existed, doesn’t exist, and couldn’t exist”, but permitted publication of literature in the Ukrainian language.

    1876 – The Circular also stated that “no separate Little Russian language ever existed, doesn’t exist, and couldn’t exist”, therefore, the kremlin completely prohibited something that did not exist?

  7. As I said before, I was not born yesterday, and I’ve seen plenty of racism in my time, in America ans elsewhere, to recognize it. Well, your ideological friend is very dismayed German soccer team has players with non-German sounding names. Here is one quote:

    “You know, I’ve been watching the World Cup for 40 years and this is the first year I’m looking at a German team and reading names like Serdar Tasci, Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil, Cacau, Jerome Boateng.”

    Reading this and previous passages regarding the French team, you would agree that he is unhappy, wouldn’t you. And I know that when one blames a person solely because of his skin color or his last or first name, that’s racism.

    By the way, why would he think these players of obvious Turkish descent are “immigrants.” Plenty of such persons were born in Germany, and lots of them have natural born German citizens parents too. They speak perfect flawless German language as natural born Germans that they are. So, why this hatred? Because they have dark skin? What difference does that make?

    I don’t really care and don’t know much about soccer, and find not many things that are more boring. But I know, that as in any other sports, the German soccer managers choose players for their national team solely based on their skill, and all they care about is to make money by winning games. And if the player named Mesut has better skills that the one named Helmut, then the former will be on the team and the latter will not be. That’s just common sense to say nothing about fairness.

    I bet your criterion would be the color of their eyes (must be blue!) and of their skin. That’s why I see racism.

  8. moscow did not exist yet.

    Here is a map of Kyivan-Rus in the 9th century:

    Here is a map of Kyivan-Rus in the 11th century:

    {moscow did not exist yet. }

    Here is a map of Kyivan-Rus in the 12th – 14th century:

    The Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia[1] or Kingdom of Rus’ or Galicia–Vladimir (Latin: Regnum Galiciae et Lodomeriae, Regnum Rusiae) was a Ruthenian (Ukrainian) state in the regions of Galicia and Volhynia during 1199 — 1349.

    This area was mentioned in 981 (by Nestor), when Vladimir the Great of Kyivan Rus took the area over on his way into Poland. He founded the city of Vladimir (Volynski) and later Christianized the locals. The area returned to Poland in 1018 and in 1031 was retaken by Kyivan-Rus.

    The territory was settled by the East Slavs from the early middle ages and, in the 12th century, the Rurikid Principality of Galicia (Galich) was formed there by descendants of Vladimir, merged at the end of the century with the neighboring Volhynia into the principality of Galicia-Volhynia which existed for a century and a half.

    {Please note that this map includes Kyiv.}

    {muscovy did not exist yet. }

    Here is a map of Muscovy in 1500AD:

    After the moskali occupied Ukraine, in the 17th century, the moskali decided to call themselves’ “greater russian”, and Ukrainians “Little Russians”. That is when the kremlin’s GENOCIDE of the Ukrainian people, history, language, culture, and traditions – began.

    President Yushchenko has put a halt to this GENOCIDE, and has tried to curb the further malicious russification of Ukraine. This is the main reason why the kremlin tried to assassinate President Yushchenko, and promotes daily disinformation about him and Ukraine. The kremlin constantly rewrites history to make themselves “greater”.

    As Ukraine and its people underwent the process of nation-building in the last eleven hundred years, Little Russia, even in the historic context, can only loosely be considered as merely a contemporary equivalent for the word Ukraine. The term has become an archaic one, and anachronistic usage in the modern context is considered strongly offensive by Ukrainians, as it often used to imply the denial of a separate Ukrainian national identity, an opinion not uncommon among Russian nationalists.

    >> 1708 muscovy changes their name to russian empire.

    1709 Peter constructed a new narrative for his realm. Instead of being Muscovy, it was to be Russia. As such, he and his state could claim lineage with the Kievan state called Rus that had accepted Christianity in 988 and collapsed in the 13th century. In one simple historical revision that complemented his opening to the West, Peter and his realm would be transformed from Asiatic upstarts to a European empire. Kiev would become the “mother of all Russian cities.”

    >> 1720. Peter I’s ukase banning the publication and printing of books in Ukrainian.

    It began centuries earlier when Peter the First – I will not call him Great – decided to create an Empire by inventing the Myth of Russia. In order to turn his frozen back woods outposts into a credible empire, he needed a history, and a church to bless it.

    Ukraine had all that — so he conquered it. Ukrainian history became Russian history. The head of the Ukrainian Church was arrested, marched off to Moscow and declared to be to head of the Russian Church. Suddenly, Russia had an empire, a history and a church to bless it all.

    The only problem was those pesky Ukrainians who just wouldn’t cooperate and become Russian. That began a centuries long effort by Russia to destroy the Ukrainian nation and Ukrainian national identity.

    • Do you mean that if Moscow did not exist yet, then Russia didn’t exist? You are idiot. Борзые юЩенки. And trying to claim your “national identity” based or Kievan Rus’ is a joke and perversion of the history. You didn’t even exist as “identity” at that time. People in Kiev spoke antic Russian, and not your dog-type “mova” dialect, where half of words are polish.

      • Ты пидор LES еще нам расскажи про хохломор как хохлокост укров.

  9. I have a question-Where was stalin born..

    • Why, in the Russian empire, to an Ossetian father, and a Georgian-Russian mother.

      He is after all the “3rd Greatest Russian of All Time” by popular acclaim in Russia.

      And approved of by a majority of Russians.

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