PHOTO: Russia’s Future

Russian opposition leader Oleg Kozlovsky's stunning wife Lada Bat with their daughter Dana, who is appearing at her very first protest event with her parents. If this is Russia's future, things are not so very bad after all.

41 responses to “PHOTO: Russia’s Future

  1. Lada Bat aka Butt? Is she a daughter of the Russian arms baron Victor Bout?

    Хмуриться не надо Лада
    Хмуриться не надо Лада
    Для меня твой смех награда, Лада, хо-хо!

  2. Voice of Reason

    Oleg Kozlovsky’s stunning wife Lada Bat

    Lada is indeed very stunning by American standards. By Russian standards, she is pretty.

  3. I would not have taken a babe in arms to a protest.

    • Voice of Reason

      Evidently she is sure that nothing unpleasant can happen at this protest rally.

      • Anyway, I wouldn’t do this.

      • Perhaps, VOR, she’s simply sure that a wife and child should stand by the side of their father and husband?

        Ordinary blockheads like you, of course, can’t comprehend the notion of risking your life for principles like democracy and freedom, which is why Russia remains such a crude backwater in the world of civilized progressive nations.

        • Duffers like you are even ready to sacrifice the life of their children, how very brave.

          • So you feel a Russian policeman might kill the child of peaceful civic protesters?

            Isn’t that an emergency which must be addressed by any means possible? Won’t such bloodthirsty killers destroy lives whether or not protests are held?

            • Duffer, would you be a woman, you’d think before claiming police may be the only danger in a crowded place.

              • Ah, so you’re saying that a woman is not allowed to take her into any crowded place, like a park (much less an amusement park) or restaurant or ball game.

                Are such places really so horrifically dangerous in Russia? Here in America, women with babies visit them all the time and their restrooms are specially equipped with changing tables for babies.

                It must be depressing to live in such a violent, dangerous country as you do, isn’t it? But can you really blame people for wanting to try to change it? Should people have to live such backwards conditions forever?

              • Dmitry simply has the traditional Russian view that women are possessions, and should be stuck in the kitchen.

                Russian mens attitude to women in exemplified in the horrific domestic abuse statistics for Russia.

                Every hour, a woman in Russia is killed by her husband, partner, or relative. A handful of crisis centers across the country offer victims legal and psychological assistance. But rights groups say the problem cannot be squarely tackled until the authorities recognize violence in the family as a serious human rights violation, instead of dismissing it as a private matter.

                Moscow, 15 December 2005 (RFE/RL) —

                Domestic violence takes place in every country and affects women and their children from all social backgrounds.

                Some nations, however, have been more active than others in combating this type of violence, which Amnesty International brands “the biggest human rights scandal of our times.”

                In a report released yesterday, called “Nowhere To Turn To,” the rights group accuses Russia of severe negligence in protecting women from domestic violence.

                According to Amnesty International, 70 percent of married women in Russia have been subjected to physical, psychological, or sexual violence at home.

                Official figures show that 9,000 women were killed by their husbands and relatives in Russia in 2003, out of a population of 143 million. Rights groups, however, say this figure could be much higher.

                In comparison, rights groups say between 2,000 and 3,500 women die of domestic violence annually in the United States, a country of almost 300 million.

                http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1063891.html

                No wonder Russian women rush to marry foreigners….

                • Dmitry simply has the traditional Russian view that women are possessions, and should be stuck in the kitchen.

                  Sunshine, compare wages of Russian and Georgian women.

                  9,000 killed in 2005
                  14,000 killed in 2001
                  15,330 killed in 1999

                  Looks like Putin does something about it.

  4. Ahh, It’s been the longest time. Thanks for the picture, by the way. Who’d have thought that the “opposition” would go to such lengths. I mean I understand attempting to provoke a police responce all for the eagerly waiting western cameras, but putting children into harms way while carrying our your self-serving (oops, I meant State Department serving) political agenda is pretty damn despicable. Do these people’s handlers in D.C. know what they are doing ? lolz :)

    • Are you suggesting that Russian police officers would harm a baby who was engaged in peaceful protest? What kind of maniacs does Russia have for “police”?

      If so, how will things ever change unless the babies demand their civil rights?

      • Tell me duffer, would you really take your own baby in arms to a demonstration?

        Doesn’t the very thought of your several-months-old baby in such a crowded place make you shiver?

        I wonder what woman are you. And, most probably, you are not.

        • Not sure where you got the idea that the person who answers these comments is female. Nobody ever said so, and the founder of this blog has MUCH more to occupy her time than reading your feeble gibberish. She never responds to comments.

          If men can’t have opinions about handling children, why are YOU expressing one, you apelike idiot?

      • You know perfectly well what I am suggesting. The job that Kozlovsky and his ilk take upon themselves to do is parade theatrically and very openly up and down the streets of Moscow with posters and placards denouncing the government and the lack of freedom of the press, all while they are followed by several dozen journalists from major publications who publish and trumpet the stories of these “poor souls” to the “free world” I they feel especially subservient to the western interests that provide them with their paychecks, they may even smash in a storefront or to to invite a police responce, upon which they will be carried away while screaming about lack of democracy to serve a truly draconian sentence ranging from a few hours to a day. It’s the most despicable and self-serving sort of poitical theatre one can think of. Dangerous, too. Why you have to bring your children to it, I can’t understand.

        • But Alexei, how can you possibly expect anyone to take your comments about children seriously when you make it clear you would oppose this activity regardless of whether children were present? Even a child could see that you are only using the issue of children to further a propaganda war against the opposition, and as such your concern is hollow and meaningless.

          By the way, people spoke about Gandhi and Martin Luther King in their times the same way you speak about Kozlovsky. That says a alot. It really does.

  5. Voice of Reason

    larussophobe wrote: “ Perhaps, VOR, she’s simply sure that a wife and child should stand by the side of their father and husband? Ordinary blockheads like you, of course, can’t comprehend the notion of risking your life for principles like democracy and freedom, which is why Russia remains such a crude backwater in the world of civilized progressive nations.

    I have full respect for risking one’s own life for principles like democracy and freedom, as many of my friends were prominent Soviet dissidents and went jail for principles like democracy and freedom, and their wives stood by them.

    However, no sane person in Russia or USA or Europe would think of risking the life of an infant baby, theirs or anybody else’s, for the sake of their political cause. Nobody (outside certain parts of the Arab world and Chechnya) hides behind the bodies of children when in a fight.

    However, in the case of Kozlovsky – you are probably right: there was no risk of violence there, and so there wasn’t any danger to the baby.

    • But you see, it’s impossible to take your words seriously because YOU DON’T SAY ONE SINGLE WORD critical of the regime that created the environment which makes it necessary for these protests to occur.

      Perhaps you should concern yourself with your own children and leave the fate of this one to her mother. Isn’t it rather odd for you to object to American lecturing Russia about morality and then to lecture this mother, a woman you have never even met?

      Any women IN THE VICINITY of a protest action takes a risk having a baby there. Are you suggesting that women be banned from the vicinity? Maybe they should be banned from taking part in any case, since if they are killed the child will lose a mother? Maybe the protests themselves should be banned?

      Your thought process is superficial, impulsive and inadequate.

      • Voice of Reason

        Any women IN THE VICINITY of a protest action takes a risk having a baby there. Are you suggesting that women be banned from the vicinity?

        I am saying nothing of the sort. In fact, I have no problem with women participating in demonstrations. But I would never take a tiny baby to a less-than-perfectly-safe public event like a demonstration or a rock concert or a soccer game. In fact, I suspect that many concert and mass sports events organizers do ban tiny babies from their events.

  6. Voice of Reason

    Larussophobe wrote: “Not sure where you got the idea that the person who answers these comments is female. Nobody ever said so, and the founder of this blog has MUCH more to occupy her time than reading your feeble gibberish. She never responds to comments.

    Do you mean to say that this is not a one-woman operation, but an effort of company wiht many employees?

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:

    If you read the “about LR” section in our header, you’d be less confused.

    But since you’re a brainless gorilla, that’s probably much too much to expect from you, isn’t it?

    Do you even know what planet you’re on, moron?

    • Voice of Reason

      Which planet am I on? I am on a planet where the LR editors selectively pick random sentences from my post and then delete the rest, calling me “moron”.

      My question “Do you mean to say that this is not a one-woman operation, but an effort of company with many employees? ” was a sarcastic prologue to the real question that I asked but you deleted. Namely, given your stated policy:

      This blog does not accept financial contributions in any amount from any source for any reason. There is no paid advertising nor any possibility of financial gain from the publication of any material appearing on the blog.

      I asked you how this large team of editors can put food on their tables, if they don’t accept any donations from outside sources and no advertising.

      The question is: who employs your team and pays you to devote your work to badmouthing Russia. Is it Exxon, BP or some other oil companies that need hostilities with Russia in order to wrestle for Central Asian oil? Or Lockheed or other military company that make money off of taxpayers’ fears of hostilities with Russia? Or wartime construction companies like Halliburton that prosper at the expense of taxpayers when USA go to war? Or are you employed by US government’s agencies – like CIA or Pentagon – which also prosper at the expense of US taxpayers in the Cold War environment?

      • Aha, and they keep on randomly deleting my posts.

        That’s a perfect example of freedom of speech, and a simple honesty:D

  7. Real Russian statistics, for LEGAL abortions:

    #1 Russia: 19.2885 per 1,000 people (2,766,360 abortions)

    #6 United States: 4.0945 per 1,000 people
    (1,210,880 abortions)

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_abo_percap-health-abortions-per-capita

    Meanwhile in Georgia:

    Induced abortion rate among women aged 15-44 years

    Total abortion rate per woman 3.1 (RHS, Georgia, 2005)
    General abortion rate per 1,000 women 104 (RHS, Georgia, 2005)
    Abortion ratio per 100 live births 40.5(MOH,2006)
    Age specific abortion rate (per 1,000 women) age 15-19 6.0 (MOH, 2005)1
    13 (RHS, Georgia, 2005)2

    1 -Abortions occurring between January 2002 and December 2004, include spontaneous abortions

    2 -Abortions occurring between March 2002 and February 2005

    Total number of abortions (indicate source; period) 19,161 (total number for 2006, MOH) 3
    345/19,161 (1.8%) first abortions

    6,720/19,161 (35%) mini-abortion

    1st TM 18,930
    2nd TM 231
    safe 19,153
    unsafe 8 illegal, criminal abortions
    married women N/A
    unmarried women N/A
    adolescents <14 years – 3 abortions
    15-19 years – 1451 abortions

    http://www.medicalabortionconsortium.org/country/GE/

    Total – 1 302 000 (without private clinic)
    absolute number abortion in 2007 –
    Induced abortion rate among women aged 15-44 years
    Total abortion rate per woman
    General abortion rate per 1,000 women – 33,3
    Abortion ratio per 100 live births – 81,9
    Age specific abortion rate age 15-19 – total – 124 480 (9,6% 0f all age group abortions)
    1st TM –1 219 040 (93,6%)
    2nd TM (22-27 week of gestation) – 20 144 (1,55%) safe
    unsafe – 1 351 (0,10%) plus 63 850 (4,90%) – undetermined
    married women – have no statistic
    unmarried women – have no statistic
    adolescents – 125 273 (9,66%)
    Septic abortions – statistic is available only as a complication\reason for MM.

    http://www.medicalabortionconsortium.org/country/RU/

    Even given the lower figures in the second set of statistics for Georgia, well, much lower abortion rate per live births than Russia.

  8. An even using the UNFPA statistics:

    Despite the sharp decrease in the number of unintended pregnancies and abortions over the last decades (according to official statistics number of abortions in 1991 was 89,091 and in 2007 49,476)

    Gives an aboetion rate of 1.13% of total population.

    http://www.unfpa.org.tr/georgia/countryinfo.htm

    I do like the way you use un-sourced figures.

  9. Voice of Reason

    Andrew, you idiot. Your lying cheating Georgian government has been under-reporting abortions by more than a factor of 10 (ten!), until the American officials came and exposed them in this report:

    http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PNADN379.pdf

    I don’t have time now, but tomorrow, when you wake up, you will get a full story on this. Pleasant dreams!

    • Well, if thats what the report says, I agree, the rate of abortion is too high.

      However, to say “lying cheating Georgian government” is a bit stupid, considering the report was done in association with the Georgian Ministry of Health.

      However, remember that Russia has a history of lying too, if Georgian statistical estimates were incorrect, how about the massive fabrication of statistics under the Russian government aegis?

      Remember the claim of 2000 dead Ossetian civilians?

      Whose government is lying and cheating?

      • Aha, we are lynching negroes.

        However, to say “lying cheating Georgian government” is a bit stupid, considering the report was done in association with the Georgian Ministry of Health.

        Ok, stupid lying cheating Georgian government.

      • Voice of Reason

        Andrew,

        It is one thing to exaggerate immediate statistics in the middle of a war. Everybody does it. For example:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

        On CBS’ Face the Nation Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen claimed, “We’ve now seen about 100,000 military-aged men missing… They may have been murdered.”[47] Clinton, citing the same figure, spoke of “at least 100,000 (Kosovar Albanians) missing”.[48] Later, Clinton said, “Tens of thousands of people were killed…”[49] Clinton compared the events of Kosovo to the Holocaust. CNN reported, “Accusing Serbia of ‘ethnic cleansing’ in Kosovo similar to the genocide of Jews in World War II, an impassioned President Clinton sought Tuesday to rally public support for his decision to send U.S. forces into combat against Yugoslavia.”[51] In May, 1999, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen suggested that there might be up to 100,000 Albanian fatalities.”[53]

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/517168.stm

        What about the hundreds of thousands of victims mentioned at Nato briefings? These figures related to those believed to be missing – some of whom were assumed to be dead. Nato estimates of those missing ranged from 100,000 to more than 400,000 Kosovar Albanians. Many of them were indeed “missing”, hiding in forests. But it appears it was closer to a few thousand who were actually killed.
        ————————–

        But it is a totally different matter to lie about peaceful domestic statistics.

  10. Voice of Reason

    Andrew wrote:

    General abortion rate per 1,000 women- 104 (Georgia, 2005)

    General abortion rate per 1,000 women – 33 (Russia)

    Great point, Andrew. Indeed, Georgia has more than 3 times higher abortion rate than Russia. Thanks!

  11. Voice of Reason

    http://www.measuredhs.com/pubs/pub_details.cfm?ID=836

    The rate of induced abortion is very high in several countries in eastern Europe and central Asia where the use of modern contraception has lagged. In the Republic of Georgia the rate of 3.1 abortions per woman in 2003-05 may be the highest in the world.

  12. Voice of Reason

    When we first started throwing statistics at each other, I son noticed the gaping contradictions between them. Some statistics portrayed Georgia as a country with incredibly low abortion rate, and some – with the highest in the World. I became curious and investigated. I am not going to bore you with details of my search, but I finally came upon the explanation:

    http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PNADN379.pdf

    REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH SURVEY
    GEORGIA, 2005, FINAL REPORT

    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES,
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Atlanta, GA, 30333

    In previous surveys, the highest rates were in the Caucasus where, at current age-specific rates, a woman would typically have had more than three abortions during her lifetime in Azerbaijan and Georgia and more than two abortions in Armenia. The total induced abortion rate (TIAR) documented by the 1999 survey (3.7 abortions per woman) was probably as high as anywhere in the world.

    Figure 5.1.2 compares abortion statistics from the surveys and from government sources in terms of the general abortion rate (GAR) In the Caucasus, the survey estimates are several times higher than official rates – which suggests the presence of a breakdown in the government system for collecting abortion statistics.
    ——————————————

    If you look at Figure 5.1.2, you will see the amazing discrepancy between actual and government-reported abortion rates in the Caucuses republics:

    Georgia – by factor of 7
    Azerbaijan – by factor of 11.6
    Armenia – – by factor of 4.7

    Russia is not included in this figures, but Ukraine and Moldova are:

    Ukraine – – almost correct
    Moldova – – total honesty

    Figure 5.2.1 is even worse, as it shows that the Georgian government is lying by a factor of 10. The real number of abortions per woman is 3.1, but the official statistics say 0.3. Ten-fold lie!

    The moral of the story is that all information and statistics from Georgia and the other two Caucuses republic in all areas are total disinformation and lies. Nothing the Georgian government says is to be believed, unless there is a third-party confirmation form unbiased foreign experts.

  13. taking your several months child as a human shield is below any lowest moral standards. making this for political reasons, makes me sick. supporting this attitude in name of freedom of speech and bashing around (any crowd can be dangerous) makes me puke.

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