May 12, 2010 — Contents

WEDNESDAY MAY 10 CONTENTS

(1)  EDITORIAL:  A Decade with Putin is a Lost Decade

(2)  EDITORIAL:  Russia jumps the Rails

(3)  The Horror of Russia’s Charlatan Science

(4)  Kadyrov on Pushkin

(5)  Russian ruin in Rome

(6)  CARTOON

17 responses to “May 12, 2010 — Contents

  1. Here is a fascinating program from Friday, April 30, 2010.

    It is the 3-hour Friday marathon Savik Shuster show.

    http://shuster.kanalukraina.tv/video/5093_na_silu_siloi_otvetim/

    The topic? The gas-Black
    Sea Fleet barter agreement (plus side agreements) between Ukraine and Russia.

    It is notable because:

    – Boris Nemtsov appears on the show – he is very impressive.

    He notes that in Russia there is no discussion such as that occurring on the Savik Shuster Show, and certainly not in the Duma.

    – Dmitry Rogozin appears via satellite, to push the Russian line about how it is helping its “brotherly” country on “brotherly” terms – typics sovok relic propaganda.

    Fascinating stuff – if you like sovok relic propaganda.

  2. So much for all the criticism by Russian idiots like Dima, Dmitry, VOR etc, that the Russians knew how to deal with pirates, and the west was weak.

    Join the club guys…

    Russia releases pirates because they ‘too expensive to feed’

    The pirates captured by Russian special forces after they seized and oil tanker have been released because Russia does not want to have to pay to feed them in prison.

    Authorities initially said the pirates would be brought to Russia to face criminal charges after hijacking a Russian oil tanker. But Defence Ministry spokesman Col Alexei Kuznetsov said that the pirates had instead been released.
    The Law of the Seas Convention, to which Russia is a signatory, says that the courts of a country that seizes a pirated vessel on the high seas has the right to decide what penalties are to be imposed. However, some countries are wary of hauling in pirates for trial for fear of being saddled with them after they serve prison terms.

    Col Kuznetsov appeared to echo those concerns when asked why the pirates who seized the tanker were released.
    “Why should we feed some pirates?” he said.
    Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian President, had hinted at potential tough punishment for the pirates, saying “perhaps we should get back to the idea of establishing an international court and other legal tools” to prosecute pirates. “Until then, we’ll have to do what our forefathers did when they met the pirates,” he said.
    The pirates boarded the tanker Moscow University on Wednesday. They were arrested on Thursday after special forces from a Russian warship stormed the tanker. A gunbattle ensued in which one pirate was killed; 10 others were arrested.
    The warship opened with warning fire from large-calibre machine guns and a 30mm artillery complex, the Russian Defence Ministry said. Special forces troops then dropped down to the tanker from a helicopter.
    The tanker’s 23 crew members, who had taken refuge in a safe room, were not injured.
    Suspected pirates are in custody and awaiting trial in France, the Netherlands and the United States.
    Several countries are now calling for piracy cases to be prosecuted in the Kenyan port city of Mombasa. The United States, Britain and European Union have now signed agreements allowing for piracy suspects to be handed over to Kenya for trial.

    I mean, come on, cant afford to feed them?
    What a cop-out.

    • If you are at least eighteen years old, you shouldn’t lower yourself by calling your detractors “idiots” or any other name for that matter.

      • If you are at least 18 years old, you shouldn’t lower yourself by ignoring the substance of a comment and choosing to focus on irrelevant issues.

      • Call a spade a spade.

        See, there is nothing wrong with giving an honest opinion.

        Something that Putinists like yourself have a hard time understanding.

        Besides Dima, you insult people quite happily when it suits you.

        • They save their prison space for the russian intelligensia that they did not murder yet.

          • Well, I see your point. But you have to admit that if they are good at anything, that would be at finding a prison cell for everybody

            • The allowed them go, b/c there is no int-l or Russian law which could manage the suit.

              But if you cry out for Lynching, the following news would possibly satisfy your thirst for blood.

              After the fight, Russian marines allowed pirates to go without a navigation equipment on a boat quite (very) far from shore. In an hour signals of the boat stopped to come. Most analysts believe the boat sunk.

    • How ridiculous can one get. They want us to believe they cannot afford to feed the pirates, as if they put them in a Grand Hyatt hotel with the menu like caviar, lobster thermidor and goose liver pate. Just pathetic.

    • Francis Smyth-Beresford

      Yes, I was disappointed as well to read that. How much can a handful of people who come from a country inured to starvation eat, anyway?

      I note that no repercussions have come from killing pirates, however. Perhaps it would be simpler to just adopt a “no surrender will be accepted” policy. They don’t eat much when they’re dead. I suppose that might encourage the pirates to actually wire the vessel and blow it, as they’ve threatened before, if they have no reason to expect they will survive. It’s a fairly complicated problem.

      Still, confiscating their weapons (easily replaced) and releasing them is not an effective deterrent, and not being able to feed them is a stupid excuse.

      • I personally vote for allowing them to surrender and then forcing them to justify their continued existence on the face of the Earth by having them cough up any intelligence they know so that we might finally be able to sear this bleeding sore shut to some extent.

        Those who do are just sent to a prison camp indefinitely while we decide what to do with them.

        Those who do not are disposed of in a fashion that the ship’s commander deems most acceptable.

        • Your idea is appalling to me, with all due respect. Pirates are criminals, yes, but we, in the West at least, don’t kill people just because they are accused of being criminals. There is such a thing as due process, you know. And everybody is entitled to it, including mass murderers, war criminals, genocide perpetrators, and yes pirates.

          They have to be tried in court of law, it’s not up to commanders in the field. And they cannot be required to justify “their continued existence.”

          Piracy is a serious crime and actually subject to universal jurisdiction. If a country trying them has death penalty for piracy, so be it. But first their guilt has to be proved in a fair trial. There cannot be any summary executions of the sort you are implying

          • And your presumptions are appalling to me, with all due respect.

            Firstly, you are operating under the assumption that due process is an absolute necessity for justice. It is not- how else do you explain the continued legality of summary executions for those confirmed to have committed atrocities in war?- and even if it was this is an issue that has far more in common with dealing with guerillas or terrorists than with dealing with a bank robbery.

            There is a VERY good reason why pirates were declared enemies of all mankind back in the day and hung or otherwise disposed of whenever captured: namely that they operate according to no law while attacking the shipping of all nations (save perhaps those who pay bribes; if they didn’t for reasons other than extortion or pragmatism, they would be privateers). They are not bound by judicial rules or the laws of war. And they can flee to several ports of call just outside the arm of the law, fade in, and never be found.

            Which is why it is simply so much better to eliminate them when one has a chance. As being forced to organize a trial is costly and thus unduly punishes the capturing nation due to forcing their taxpayers to pay for the matter, it is likely that we shall see yet more cases of this limpwristed and counterproductive “catch and release.”

            The only semi-permanent way to deal with the issue is to destroy not only the pirates but also the mystique of them to the point where would-be pirates view it as too high a risk to take. Which is why the old noose comes out.

            You are correct that some curtailment of possible abuse is necessary, however that is best solved not by a trial but by mandating that the ships involved keep cameras to record any attack, with the presence of the accused on the ship with a weapon being a defacto expression of guilt.

            Yes, it is cruel. But sometimes cruel measures are necessary. Such methods have kept the sea lanes clear for centuries for a very good reason.

            • Due process is an absolute necessity of a civilized society. There is no “continued legality” in summary executions for even those who committed war crimes. That’s why they have that International Court for Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Sierra Leone, etc. To say nothing of Nuremberg. Even Goering and Kaltenbrunner had their day in court, if you remember (and 3 persons tried at Nuremberg were outright acquitted)

              The same applies to pirates. They are entitled to have a fair trial, that’s all I am saying. If in the middle ages they had summary hangings for pirates, it does not mean we should continue doing the same now. The notions of justice have evolved in the last 300 years.

      • I actually don’t see why this problem should be difficult. Arming the merchantmen should resolve it

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