EDITORIAL
The Toxin of Russian Racism
We’ve said many times before that the Russia teems with the most virulent and shameless racism imaginable, and the litany of dead, dark-skinned bodies is sure and certain proof of this undeniable fact (click the “racism” link in the “categories” section of our sidebar to read four years’ worth of our reporting on the subject, which may take you days to get through) .
But we’ve also always been careful to point out that, as utterly horrific as these killings are, there is a darker, more outrageous element to the racism found in Russia, namely that it is openly supported not just by the general population but by the government itself. Russia is, quite simply, a nation of racists and they are proud of it.
Reporting from Moscow in a blog post we republish in today’s issue, journalist Julia Ioffe provides an example of what is happening in Russia on a daily basis from her own personal experience. Ioffe, whose parents fled Russia when she was a child, stood on a subway platform and watched a screaming hoard of Russian skinheads chanting about purging all non-Slavic blood from Russia. She stood and watched as hundreds of ordinary Russians clapped and cheered their message: “Russia for Slavs!” (using the word for “Russian” in Russian that means “Slavs and nobody else”).
Everyone — everyone — who has spent time living on the real streets of Russia knows that the anecdote Ioffe is relating is anything but anecdotal. It’s fact, it’s conventional wisdom, it’s the real Russia.
Not once in his entire tenure as supreme ruler of Russia has the dictator Vladimir Putin made a televised address condemning Russian racism. Not once has he spoken out about the dozens of dark-skinned Russian citizens who are brutally murdered on account of their skin color by Russian maniacs ever year. Not once has he spearheaded any legislative initiative or PR offensive to confront and turn back Russian racism.
And why should he? Since taking office more than one year ago, the President of the United States, Barack Obama, has not said one single public word about race violence and murder in Russia. The first black president, who would not last five minutes as an unescorted passenger on the Moscow subway, has turned every much of a blind eye and deaf ear to the horrors of Russian racism as has Putin himself.
Meanwhile, the craven denizens of Russia not only clap on platforms for racist exhortation, they continue to favor Putin with massive approval in opinion polls. It does not seem to occur to many of them that growing hostility towards non-Slavs is a symptom of a failed economic policy, causing more and more Russians to worry about their futures and to lash out against anyone their tiny minds perceive to be a threat to that future. They do not seem to realize that Putin is solely responsible for that failed policy.
And even more important, these cowardly benighted people do not seem to realize how this virulent toxin of racism is undermining the very foundations of their society. The attitude of most Russians that, for instance, the people of Chechnya can never be full-fledged Russian citizens because they are not Slavic and Orthodox while insisting that, nonetheless, they remain part of Russia rather than being allowed to create their own country, is nothing short of psychotic. It is the same as saying that Chechens, and other non-Slavic citizens of Russia, are slaves. Such a political, economic and social system cannot endure, history has shown that unequivocally. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
Russian racism, as Ioffe innately perceives, is a poison that will kill the nation. As a Russian expat-turned-repat, she is terrified at the prospect of watching her homeland once again collapse into ruin. So are we.
La Russophobe 
Thank you for this superb blog LR. It just cements my view and understanding of Russia more clearly.
The hard lesson’s of life have taught me, that whenever I am with Russians that I have just met or do not know them too well, and it is on a one on one basis, then all’s well in that instance. But should there be two or more Russians present Then I automatically become a “malyj brat” – ‘small brother’ while they are “welyjkij brat” – ‘big brother’, which is pure racism! and all it does is raise the hackles on my back and make me retort as follows “Ні, Москалю, я не є малий брат, я є українець-козак, а ти- малий брат, і я не розмовляю ворожою мені мовою, на добраніч”, (i.e. No Muscal, I’m not a little brother, I’m a Ukrainian kozak, and I don’t speak in my enemies language, good night (i.e. for always)) . End of short meeting! and end of so called new friendship.
Sure I have Russian friends, who are not racist and treat me as an equal. True friends! but they sadly are in the minority.
Yet neither England nor its citizens ever refer to “her English speaking children” i.e. the Americans, Australians, Canadians, Irish, Scots, South Africans, New Zealanders, and Welsh, etc., as little brothers and herself as big brother!
But then England is a far more civilized nation, which has allowed most if not all of her colonies to gain their independence, rather then create stupid excuses to physically invade them and subdue them by brute force. What was that old saying “the sun never sets on the English Empire”. It certainly does now, by a long shot.
I thought, when one calls you a brother, even a smaller one, you shouldn’t normally answer using words like “Muscal”, or “Negro”, or “Jude”, or “Jap”, or “Kaffir”, etc.
But that is only my opinion.
When a moscal calls a Ukrainian their brother, all that I can think of is the ten’s of millions (10,000,000’s) of Ukrainians that were murdered by the kremlin.
Genesis 4
8 Cain said to Abel, his brother, “Let’s go into the field.” It happened when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel, his brother, and killed him.
8 ¶ І говорив Каїн до Авеля, брата свого. І сталось, як були вони в полі, повстав Каїн на Авеля, брата свого, і вбив його.
“When a Jude calls a Aryan their brother, all that I can think of is the ten’s of millions (10,000,000′s) of Aryans that were robbed and raped by the Zionist invaders of White Europe.”
“Moscow and Judes are the greatest enemies of Ukraine. I beleive the greates enemy is Moscow […] I stand for elimination of Jews and find it advisable to use German methods of exterminadion of Judes, excluding Judes assimilation”.
This was the “first prime minister of independent Ukraine” speaking. And a close friend of the Hero of Ukraine Bandera, whose motto was:
“Moskals [Russians], Lachi [Poles] and Judes [Jews] are the fiersiest enemies of Ukraine”
Here are monuments to Bandera in Ukraine:
Пам’ятники Степану Бандері є у 1) Львові, 2) Тернополі, 3) Івано-Франківську, 4) Дрогобичі, 5) Теребовлі, 6) Бережанах, 7) Бучачі, 8) Дублянах, 9) Микитинцях, 10 ) Самборі, 11) Стриї, 13) Бориславі, 14) Заліщиках, 15) Червонограді, 16) місті Мостиська, 17) селах Козівка , 18) Вербів, 19) Грабівка та Середній Березів. 20) У м. Турка в 2009 році закладено постамент для пам’ятника Степану Бандері.
You should continue their kampf, dear Ukrainian nationalist.
Oh I don’t know Dmitry,
The Russians have more than enough anti-Semites in Russia to go around.
And, of course, we build monuments to them, dear?
Yes you do. Stalin???
Uh oh, what a lying dimwit you are Dmitry! the only ones , that call me “a brother, even a smaller one,” are retarded jerks like you of your Soviet ruSSian mentality.
Now, let’s get one thing straight, I never (with two exceptions only) “answer using words like “Muscal”, “……..”, or “Jude”, or “Jap”, or “Kaffir”, etc.” And surprise, surprise, those two exceptions when talking to a vodka brain damaged buffoon like you are;
a) “Moscal”, already covered in previous comments above, and
b) “Jude” which is a German word that is not used in the English language context, whereas the offensive versions of the word are ‘Yid’ or to a lesser extent ‘Jew’.
The word “Negro” is not offensive and is acceptably used in British English; on the other hand ‘Nigger’ is very offensive and is predominantly used in the US, where ‘black’ is the acceptable form of the word.
So back to English classes for you comrade ignoramus. Failing that, or better still, stick to your gutter ruSSian, where I’m sure you will continue to excel.
Your last sentence of “But that is only my opinion.” is a real non event as your ‘opinion’ is totally irrelevant and not worth a bummer to me. Got that simple point right, you simpleton of a ‘nashi’ baboon.
Last but not least, pass on my worst regards to your beloved fuehrer V. Putalin, that great admirer of the greatest mass murderer in history J. Stalin.
Just in case you missed the fact, dear Ukrainian nationalist:
Moskal, and Negro, and Jude, and Jap, and Kaffir – ALL belong to languages of people that actually used these words.
As to “Negro”:
You say calling another person “Negro” is ok for you. For others – definitely it is NOT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro:
“The term is now considered archaic and offensive, and is not commonly used.”
Same with Moskals, Judes, Japs – all these words are offencive, and are not used by normal people in Ukraine and Germany and the US.
NOT, of course, applicable for Ukrainian nationalists, German nazis and the likes.
NOT applicable to you too, we’ve all mentioned that.
Keep on fighting the Bandera’s cause then. There are still many Jews and Russians and Poles living in Ukraine.
Dear Dimwit ‘D’, No I didn’t miss the facts, you did, and not only did you miss them badly but you totally screwed/twisted them to suit your pathetically lying ruSSIan nashi nationalism. Believe me, it’s going to give me real pleasure to show you up for the lying Putalin ruSSophile that you really are!
In blunt English I accuse you of twisting the facts pathetically to suit your warped view, rather then as I presented them. What you have quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro: IS the United States version – which I stated correctly.
So now let me correctly restate the facts, point by point, that you so conveniently twisted to suit your irresponsible and concocted fable. To prove beyond any reasonable doubt what a lying moron you really are!!!
1. The first sentence of your comment dated April 28, 2010 at 2.08pm, states verbatim ” I thought, when one calls you a brother, even a smaller one, you shouldn’t normally answer using words like “Muscal”, or “Negro”, or “Jude”, or “Jap”, or “Kaffir”, etc.”
To which inter alia I relied “Now, let’s get one thing straight, I never (with two exceptions only) “answer using words like “Muscal”, “……..”, or “Jude”, or “Jap”, or “Kaffir”, etc.” And surprise, surprise, those two exceptions when talking to a vodka brain damaged buffoon like you are;
a) “Moscal”, already covered in previous comments above, and
b) “Jude” which is a German word that is not used in the English language context, whereas the offensive versions of the word are ‘Yid’ or to a lesser extent ‘Jew’.
The word “Negro” is not offensive and is acceptably used in British English; on the other hand ‘Nigger’ is very offensive and is predominantly used in the US, where ‘black’ is the acceptable form of the word.”
End of quote!
Now to further clarify the above paragraph re the word “Negro”, for a simpleton like you, I stated that the word is not offensive when used in the BRITISH ENGLISH i.e. United Kingdom, unlike the AMERICAN ENGLISH i.e. United States of America where the word ‘Nigger’ is very offensive, while the word ‘black’ is the acceptable (current street usage) form. As can be seen, nowhere have I stated that the word ‘negro’ is used by English speaking Americans!!!
You then in your warped thinking have the temerity to twisted this into “As to “Negro”:
You say calling another person “Negro” is ok for you. For others – definitely it is NOT:”
To put it bluntly ‘chump’ you are lying outright,
Furthermore “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro:” is mainly referring to the US of A and I quote them verbatim about its current use;
“During the American Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s, some African American leaders in the United States objected to the word, preferring Black,[1] because they associated the word Negro with the long history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination that treated African Americans as second class citizens, or worse. During the 1960s Negro came to be considered an ethnic slur.[2]
Then the article goes on to further state; “Modern language uses: Black, Black African for people native to the African continent, and African American for people in U.S.A..” and finally that “The United States Census Bureau announced that Negro would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside “Black” and “African-American,” because some older Americans still self-identify with the term.[6][7][8]
You then reply, inter alia, state “Moskal, and Negro, and Jude, and Jap, and Kaffir – ALL belong to languages of people that actually used these words.” Which “Dimwit D” does NOT belong to the languages of people that use these words. It belongs individually to certain nations that only they currently use these words.
Also how about making up your mind about what you say. First you say “Moskal, and Negro, and Jude, and Jap, and Kaffir – ALL belong to languages of people that actually used these words.” and then you say “Same with Moskals, Judes, Japs – all these words are offencive, and are not used by normal people in Ukraine and Germany and the US.
It’s obvious you have never been to the States to hear and listen to the older generation talking about the ‘Japs, or to Germany to find out what they think of the ‘Juden’ or to Russia to find out what they think of their ‘little brothers’ in Ukraine.
Your 7th paragraph, i.e.
“NOT, of course, applicable for Ukrainian nationalists, German nazis and the likes.”
Pray tell what this sentence means? because if as I suspect the words ‘the likes’ mean you ‘ruSSian fascists’, or ‘Nashi’, then you are in fact preaching to the converted and I agree with you 100%.
Then your 8th paragraph, i.e.
“NOT applicable to you too, we’ve all mentioned that.”
Gee whiz “we’ve all”, my o’ my you do have a grand opinion of yourself! Not ‘I’, but ‘we’ve all’?
Please, please no more as you are cracking me up with laughter. Ha, ha, ha, he, he, he. You should be on stage. Yes preferably the first horse drawn stage out of town.
“Keep on fighting the Bandera’s cause then. There are still many Jews and Russians and Poles living in Ukraine.” Must say a totally irrelevant question baboon, however since “you all” have asked, I’ll leave that up to your ‘Nashi’ thugs, who will most probably start appearing – courtesy of your beloved Putalin – in Ukraine to remedy these problems and bring her in line with your democratic ruSSian example.
As to “Negro”:
You say calling another person “Negro” is ok for you. For others – definitely it is NOT:
You also copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro: the following
“The term is now considered archaic and offensive, and is not commonly used.” But conveniently left out that “some older Americans still self-identify with the term.” and that “The United States Census Bureau announced that Negro would be included on the 2010 United States Census “
Wow I got you started:)
Dear boy, sorry for a brief response, I just don’t have spare eternity to spend talking to you.
First, you seem to be quite stressed over the “negro” word.
Have you been calling someone dear to you “negro” for a long time? You were wrong about it.
You say, “the word [negro] is not offensive when used in the BRITISH ENGLISH i.e. United Kingdom”.
Just to check myself, I looked at Oxford and Cambridge (feel free to google, to see who these two are and why they are thought by many to be kind of experts in the British English).
So Cambridge beleives that:
Negro noun
(plural Negroes) (also negro) /ˈniː.grəʊ//-groʊ/ n [C] offensive old-fashioned
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/negro#negro__3
And Oxford thinks that:
Negro
• noun (pl. Negroes) a member of a dark-skinned group of peoples originally native to Africa south of the Sahara.
— USAGE The term Negro is now regarded as old-fashioned or even offensive; black is the preferred term.
— ORIGIN from Latin niger ‘black’.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/negro?view=uk
Hope that ends the discussion on Negro.
Well, dear Ukrainian supremacist, perhaps you just don’t know how normal people communicate? And do not understand why they don’t use words like “negro”, or “moskal”or “hohol” or “jap”, or “kike” in everyday communication?
Oy, gospodin; I’m sensing tension between you two. Hey! You know what would lighten the mood? A riddle!! Ready?
What’s the difference between Bohdan and a tack hammer?
…………
Give up? One is a simple tool with a rounded head that is solid all the way through. The other is used to drive tacks.
You’re mean!
:D
wow, you’ve added so much intellectual stimulation to this conversation. why don’t you go back to junior high?
You didn’t get me started and I don’ get stressed, especially so by a lying bird brain of your mettle. PERIOD.
I too use the the Oxford dictionary, which in mine states, and I quote verbatim “Negro – 1 n. (pl. Negroes) member of black-skinned (orig.) African race of mankind. 2 a. of this race, black-skinned; occupied by or connected with Negroes. 3 Negress n. fem. [Sp. & Port., f L. niger nigri black]. So there!
How come chump that of all the questions I raised you only zeroed in on “negro”? What about answering the rest of them! Classical disinformation by dimwit D.
To use your warped logic? IF? I am – as you say -a Ukrainian supremacist, then you must be a ruSSian untermensh. (No insult meant or intended to real Russians of the real (i.e. decent) Russia!)
If anything, I replied to your disjointed trash, just to put you in your propaganda world of disinformation. To borrow that quote from your vocabulary i.e. – “We all” – ha, ha, ha, he, he, he, or fool’s paradise, where you so deservedly belong.
See there you go off again on your normal irrelevant tangent. So now you change the subject matter to include “And do not understand why they don’t use words like “negro”, or “moskal”or “hohol” or “jap”, or “kike” in everyday communication?”
By the way, you have still left out the price of eggs in sino communist China from your spiel – naughty, naughty.
Dr J Goebbels, the Nazi Propaganda Minister, must be turning in his grave. To again borrow the quote from your vocabulary – “We all” – ha, ha, ha, he, he, he, say that if he had you on his team, no one but no one would know to this day that Nazi Germany actually lost WWII (Great Patriotic War to you).
Finally, good riddance baboon, I’m not wasting any more time on you, you supremely hopeless case of a wasted space. And now back to reading intelligent comments in this magic LR blog!!!
Another long post…
Stop writing them, they are unreadable.
Be smarter. Take care.
Don’t call people negroes.
“How come chump that of all the questions I raised you only zeroed in on “negro”? What about answering the rest of them! Classical disinformation by dimwit D”
Of course you didn’t answer the other questions, b/c they revolve around facts you can’t lie your way out of. Why don’t you go to a “Nashi” rally?
Educated Indians are aware of the ghastly 2-century imposition of British colonialism on India. However, because history is generally written by non-scientists, most Indians are utterly unaware of the horrendous human cost (1.8 billion violent and non-violent avoidable deaths in the period 1757-1947).
The “avoidable deaths” (from violence, deprivation and deprivation-exacerbated disease) in British India totalled 1.5 billion (or 1.8 billion if you include the so-called Native States). About 20% of the victims (about 350 million) were Muslims.
No wonder, Indian dude:) British empire a was a real Western democracy, and real Western democracies act on a really democratic scale – a scale of peoples, not even cities. Remember Native Americans, Africa, Dresden, remember Nagasaki, Remember Vietnam or Iraq. None of these countries did not even border the Western democratic state who committed those atrocities. Even Khmer rouge, Saddam, Stalin can not compare to Western democracies in that.
And yes, no matter what you would say abt Indian casualties, noone would ever be discussing it in any mainstream Western medias. That’s a democracy.
Really Gideon?
A link would be nice.
Considering that India’s population was less than 200 million in 1800, and around 300 million during the mid 19th century, and rose rapidly under British stewardship due to things like the introduction of medicine, efficient transportation of food via railway etc
I find it hard to see how you get a figure of 1.8 billion.
Of course, you are probably just another idiot (most likely Russian) who uses some fairly suspect figures.
http://www.populstat.info/Asia/indiac.htm
By the way Gideon, the general estimate of deaths in India due to foreign rule, which covers the period of the 13th century (Mongol invasion) to 1900 is around 4,500,000.
according to your own link,
from 1800 to 1947 (147 years), India’s population went up by 95 million people.
but from 1947 to 2050 (103 years), India’s population will go up by 1.35 billion people.
The British Empire was the most murderous regime in the history of mankind. No ifs, ands, or buts.
G wrote;
The British Empire was the most murderous regime in the history of mankind. No ifs, ands, or buts.
comment;
The russian/soviet empire [mongol type] was the most murderous regime in the history of mankind. No ifs, ends of buts.
By the way, the British empire gave India democracy the greates gift the could give.
“By the way, the British empire gave India democracy the greates gift the could give.”
You are retarded. The British Empire killed 1.8 billion people in the Indian territories, not to mention how many billion they killed elsewhere.
Take a look at this and crow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule
Well, these figures only indicate about 55 million dead, or 32 time less than 1.8 billion, which is such a fantastic figure that it’s does not pass the laugh test.
Also, why are the British responsible for famines and epidemics? Is it possible that without them, it would have been worse? Where is the causal link?
In addition G kind of forgets the fact that the massive increase in Indian population is simply that caused by the ability to cure many diseases that were incurable in the 19th century.
Then there were the 20th century improvements in maternity care, and child survival rates.
Famines were far more common in India prior to the arrival of the British for the simple fact that the Caste system did not give Indian rulers any incentive to alleviate the suffering of millions.
The British tried to provide food aid all through the history of the Empire in India, but you have to remember that until the late 19th century it took literally weeks to travel and transport food, prior to the introduction of the railway network that was then used to provide food aid.
One of the main reasons for the explosion in population was the “farming revolution” of the mid 20th century that massively increased crop yields.
In addition, you need to start a little earlier for your time line, the British arrived in India in the 17th century, and became the predominant power in India in 1757.
Another fact you seem to have missed was massive emmigration by Indians throughout the empire, particularly to the African colonies and to South Africa (ever heard of Ghandi?)
In addition G shows a fairly small brain when it comes to the matter of population increase.
The US has a very similar pattern of population growth to India in the 20th century, following on from a long period of relatively low growth until after WW2 when the population exploded, as it di all around the world.
Tell me G, have you heard of the term “baby boomers” which denotes the massive population expansion after WW2 in pretty much all nations around the world?
Due to a combination of improved medicine, food production, transportation etc, populations all around the world underwent a massive increase.
I suggest you get an education G
Compare fertility rate under the “Soviet empire” and in “independent” Estonia, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, before you say S.Empire was so bad without democracy.
In fact, dude, Soviet Union never was an empire. Just think of why the’s never beea a Pakistani Prime Minister of the British Empire, or a Latino as a President of the USA, and you’ll understand why the Soviet Union wasn’t an empire.
Well lets see, Communist Russia (AKA USSR/Soviet Union) invaded and occupied Georgia, Ukraine, Central Asia, Azerbaijan, Armenia (ok in that one it was popular), Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, tried to invade Poland in the 20’s, successfully invaded Poland in joint action with Russia’s great ally Nazi Germany, invaded Finland, chopped bits of China in the 30’s, nicked bits of Japan, and enforced the most repressive and political system that the world has ever seen, that in the USSR is responsible for around 62 million deaths (mid range most probable estimate) between 1917 & 1991.
In that time Russia deported populations or killed them wholesale, stole resources from food to mineral wealth, destroyed cultures under a process of “Russification” and so on.
By the way, many of the Emperors of Rome were not born in Rome, or of Roman stock, they were “Romanised natives” including several from what is now Spain, France and England.
Does this mean Rome was not an empire?
Have you read my previous post before unleashing your fervour?
Dimitr wrote;
In fact, dude, Soviet Union never was an empire. Just think of why the’s never beea a Pakistani Prime Minister of the British Empire, or a Latino as a President of the USA, and you’ll understand why the Soviet Union wasn’t an empire.
comment;
USSR wasn’t empire in the western sense e.g., Roman Empire [roots of our Western civilization], USSR was a mongol type ’empire’ – conquer and destroy – Look where Mongolia is now – Russia is heading the same way. If you look what is going on in Russia now, it is obvious that Russia is entering the very early stage of a civil war; 1917 type – internal conflict that Russia is fighting – Georgia, Norther Caucasus, Central Asia, Ukraine, the lost of Siberia, etc. combined with the dying population proves that all empires die the same long, destructive and painful way.
Somehow I’m starting to think being Georgian or Pole in what you call “Soviet empire” was much better than being Indian in British one.
Read this:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Few_Facts_about_British_Rule_in_India
And try to find anything comparable to that in your “Soviet empire” myth.
Drymitry wrote;
And try to find anything comparable to that in your “Soviet empire” myth
comment;
Nothing can be compared with the barbarity of Russia – Russian empire was so successful because of the Russians, born slaves who walked to the gulags like animals to the slaughter; with heads down and not a sign of resistance. I am sure that your mamasha, papasha, babushkas etc. were all their; starving, dying and building the soviet paradise. Dear dimasha it must be russia’s destiny to be slaves – I can see that Russians are comfortable with this, so is the rest of the world.
You’re a girl, right? I bet you are.
aaa wrote:
“Nothing can be compared with the barbarity of Russia – Russian empire was so successful because of the Russians, born slaves who walked to the gulags like animals to the slaughter; with heads down and not a sign of resistance. I am sure that your mamasha, papasha, babushkas etc. were all their; starving, dying and building the soviet paradise. Dear dimasha it must be russia’s destiny to be slaves – I can see that Russians are comfortable with this, so is the rest of the world.”
I’d like to remind other readers where our girl comes from – the United States of America.
Aaa, the ones like you do a favor for your nation. Stay cool American, girlie.
Well Dmitry, have a look here:
Lethal Politics: Soviet
Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917
Chapter 1. 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered 1917 to 1987
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM
Thanks for the link, I’ll use it elsewhere.
India’s population 283496,0 in 1850, 249699,0 1920.
Russian population: 68500,0 1950, 184600,0 in 1917.
Do you have an idea on how English could have possibly achieved that?
1850 with 68500,0
Sadly, the article is a collection of unfounded sweeping generalizations based off one observation of some punk football hooligans on the Moscow metro and some patently untrue statements about how all Russians are almost clinically racist. I especially liked this one:
“The first black president, who would not last five minutes as an unescorted passenger on the Moscow subway,”
This statement is totally ludicrous and I say it as someone who’s ridden on the Moscow metro hundreds of time and seen people of all colours riding on it side by side without anyone attacking Barack Obama lookalikes or chanting racist chants.
Moscow is still predominantly a “white” city.
Washington D.C. is 80% black along with 70% Latino L.A.
Ever been to Toronto in Canada? Toronto has turned into a manifesto of multi-culti model city with all their Jewish multi-culti cheerleaders marching on. They say the US State Department for no reason at all is targeting presently the rural areas of the state of New Hampshire converting ’em into New Somalia. The Somalis didn’t like their brothers in blood in Georgia and Alabama and eventually has migrated to “more liberal” New England. New generation’s being on the rise in those parts with the average 5 to 10 children per family. Fresno Hmongs’ adventure was not enough for the Jews on the top of the US society. Why not to convert Israel into Palestine instead if I may ask?
In view of the observations here above Russia is definitely a rasist society, USA is not (for the exception of the Midwest and Alaska maybe). Where there’s a single “white” person left in town there’s rasism. The Stateside, the UK or Canada – doesn’t matter.
LONG LIVE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FROM MEXIFORNIA TO MEXICHUSETTS!
DEEP IN MY HEART I DO BELIEVE WE SHALL OVERCOME SOMEDAY (ALL THE WHITE TRASH IN THE LAND OF THE FREE).
YOU ARE WELCOME TO JOHANNESBURG ON THE POTOMAC RIVER!
P.S.
Funny to see that was the British Empire had degraded to the status of Uncle Sam’s decorated poodle within a quater of a century.
No way, rts. You’ve come this road for too far to have a chance to overcome.
Seriously. Russia is very much predominantly Russian, with clear national regionsPoland is 97% polish. Japan – almost 100% Japanese.
US is here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg
Oh, what a lie!
Don’t you know Russia is fascist country?
Don’t you know that Russians destroyed every native ethnos that was living on the place where they planned to settle?
Don’t you know that some poor remnants of those peoples are now living in reservations?
Don’t you know how Russians destroyed Chechens lately? Poor Chechens, where are they scattered now? Who knows?
Of course Obama would be shot on sight in Russia.
Don’t you know it’s only 40 years they have cancelled those special buses and toilets for other races, blacks and asians?
Don’t you know of these 40 000 of white supremacists all around the country?
Have you ever heard of a, say, Georgian or Ukrainian, or, I dare to say, Jew that took any high position in Russia, not to say, a head of state?
You should be totally ignorant to state Obama would last more than 5 seconds in Moscow metro.
Lets see, plenty of former Russian slaves have reached high positions in the USA, such as General John Shalikashvili
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shalikashvili
BTW, those “Georgian” “Ukrainian” and “Jewish” leaders in the USSR were all pretty Russified, and were part of the ruling Communist party.
They were responsible for terrible repressions against their supposed ethnic kin, usually because their own people saw them as sellouts to Russian imperialism.
Once again, just like Rome.
Have you perhaps forgotten the attempt in 1978 by the politburo to downgrade the status of the Georgian, Azeri, and Armenian languages and replace them with Russian as the language of education and business in those three republics?
As for Don’t you know that Russians destroyed every native ethnos that was living on the place where they planned to settle?
Don’t you know that some poor remnants of those peoples are now living in reservations?
Sounds like a pretty good description of what happened to the Crimean Tartars, the Circassians, the Ingush, and the Chechens under soviet rule.
Not to mention the Pontic Greeks, Volga Germans, Ukrainian Poles, Meshkians, etc etc etc.
“Russian slaves have reached high positions in the USA, such as General John Shalikashvili”.
one can not make a more stupid comment that you did above, beleive me:)
“Russian slaves” became generals 200 years later under Russian rules and fought bravely for my country:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Bagration
But let’s see: what about US own former slaves?
Do you know how many African Americans are there currently in the US Senate #111?
The answer is: 1 out of 100 senators.
Do you know how many African Americans were ever elected to the US Senate? There were, I remind, 111 elections, 100 members elected to the Congress.
The answer is: 6, Barack Obama one of them. 6 out of 11 000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress#United_States_Senate
Now let’s turn to people of Hispanic and Latin American ancestry (yes, word you are thinking of is an ethnic slur).
Do you know how many of them Hispanics are currently among the proud 100 US senators?
Not surprisingly, 1.
Do you know how many of Hispanic Americans were ever members of Senate?
Not surprisingly, 6. 6 out of 11 000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hispanic_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress#Senate
Now let’s turn to, er, Asian Americans:
Currently: 3 of 100 (of which 2 represent Hawaii for the last 20 years).
Ever: 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_Pacific_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress#Senate
I’d say, dear, that non-white person in the United states has much better chances to fly to the outer space, than become a senator.
18 non-white among 11 000 elected is no democracy. This is an ethnocracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocracy
Interview: Crimean Tatar Leader Attacks Ukraine’s Black Sea Fleet Deal
On April 27, the Russian and Ukrainian parliaments ratified an agreement to extend Russia’s lease of the Crimean port of Sevastopol for its Black Sea Fleet until 2042.
Mustafa Dzhemilev, chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatars, spoke today with RFE/RL’s Tatar-Bashkir Service correspondent Landysh Kharrasova from Strasbourg about the new Russian-Ukrainian deal.
RFE/RL: What was the Crimean Tatars’ reaction to the ratification of the Black Sea Fleet agreement and what impact is it going to have on the future of the Crimean Tatars?
Mustafa Dzhemilev: Of course, our reaction is very negative, and we made a statement in this regard, because the Black Sea Fleet is a source of destabilization and a permanent threat to Ukraine’s territorial integrity.
Let’s recall the Black Sea Fleet’s participation in the Russian-Georgian war. It delivered strikes against Georgian towns and, according to the rules of war, Georgia, had it had the capability, could have retaliated not only against the warships but also their bases — in other words, against our territory, the territory of Crimea, the territory of Ukraine.
And this time Russia waged a war against a weak Georgia, which basically doesn’t have a navy of its own. Imagine a similar adventure against our neighbor across the Black Sea. They wouldn’t think too much about [Crimea] being [a foreign base] if their own towns came under fire.
Secondly, at a time when high-ranking [Russian] officials constantly make territorial claims on Ukraine and say that Crimea will sooner or later become part of Russia again, hosting that country’s navy on our territory is absolutely unwise.
And thirdly, this goes against the Ukrainian Constitution, whose Article 17 states that no foreign military bases must be permitted on Ukrainian territory. Yes, we allowed [the Black Sea Fleet] to remain there, as an exception, until 2017 because there was an agreement. But this 25-year extension is simply astonishing. These people signed [the deal] on behalf of entire generations to come. I think it is outrageous.
RFE/RL: You said you made statements. What kind of statements did you make?
Dzhemilev: We made a statement in the press protesting the signing of an agreement prolonging the Black Sea Fleet’s stay. In fact, we had been saying that it was necessary to shorten its stay so that Russia would begin pulling its navy out. And now we have something completely opposite.
I know that Ukraine is, of course, in a bad economic situation. But I don’t know any other country that would pay its price for gas by accepting such a threat to its territorial integrity and stability in such an important region.
RFE/RL: Are you going to take any further measures?
Dzhemilev: Of course the Crimean Tatars are not strong enough to have any determining influence, but, together with all the democratic forces, we will definitely seek a revision of this agreement. We categorically oppose this ratification. Not only do we oppose the ratification, but we oppose the extension of the Black Sea Fleet’s stay [in Crimea] in general.
http://www.rferl.org/content/Interview_Crimean_Tatar_Leader_Attacks_Ukraines_Black_Sea_Fleet_Deal/2027324.html?page=1&x=1#relatedInfoContainer
Cool bustards !))) Shear with me the stuff you smoke, please!
They are not smoking anything – that’s really the way they see the world. Sad, but true.
Excuse me interfering, but you sound really silly, Dmitry.
The site is called ‘La Russophobe’, so naturally the ‘russophobes’ are gathered here to enjoy any bit of bad news about Russia, be it real or imagined.
What are you doing here i wonder? Trying to make ‘russophiles’ out of them?
What is actually so sad? That a small bunch of jews, ukrainians and georgians hate Russia? I’d rather dislike them loving us.
Ouch, I am not sure I understood you right abt Jews Georgians etc, but anyway:
I don’t think it’s natural for Jews, Ukrainians and Georgians to dislike Russia.
Remember Bagration, Levitan, or Kozhedub, Sudoplatov. They were all loving Russia. That’s quite a normal thing for any normal person.
And yes, I am just having fun, that’s why I spend time here. I will quit at the moment the blog stops delivering loolz:)
[ abt Jews Georgians etc ]
I just wanted to note, that here you hardly find any real americans or australians.
[it’s natural for Jews, Ukrainians and Georgians ]
I meant people writing here are usually one of these.
[Remember Bagration, Levitan, or Kozhedub, Sudoplatov. ]
Don’t understand what you talking about.
Bagration, Kozhedub and Sudoplatov were russians AFAIK.
Levitan – which one you mean? And i don’t know if he liked Russia or not.
Thats OK Ouch, we all realise you are a special needs student like RTR.
It’s OK, your ignorance is not your fault.
Ouch, get real. Levitan was a Jew, Sudoplatov was Russian Ukrainian, Kozhedub was Ukrainian, Bagration is a well-known Georgian family.
But all these people loved Russia and did very much for their motherland. And Russia, in return, did very much for each of them.
So don’t be stupid. Diversity is a strength. You just need to maintain your culture, and then everything is ok.
Ok, yes, people writing here are mostly emigrants, or shildren of emigrants, or some stupid guys living in Georgia under constant influence of Imedi.
But that doesn’t mean it’s ok for all these nations you name to dislike Russia – on the opposite, Jews, and Ukrainians. and Georgians all did very much for my country. They were among the leaders, and soldiers, scientists, etc. Of course, there were as well Jewish NKVD officers, and Georgian bandits, and Ukrainian prostitutes, and everybody knows that.
However, none of these nations, as a nation, can be accused of any evil. As well as Russians, as a nation can not be. These accusations are what we see here, and that’s exactly what we all Russians dislike about this blog.
You have to take into account the history of the country. My mom grew up there during the communist era, and she told me horror stories about the foreigners from Africa and Asia who were studying or working in the former USSR. The government treated all expats as royalty and any crimes or violations they commited were excused, but it was mainly the ones from the middle east and Africa who took full advantage of this fact to act like savages, and treat Russian women like dirt. Growing up in North America, I’m completely against racist acts, however, I can understand where they originated from in Russia, given the history. Moreover, racism is still in full bloom in Western Europe. The only difference is that there it is better mascaraded, and everyone pretends it’s non-existent. Russians have always been proud about not being fake like North Americans, by being blunt and saying exactly what was on their minds without the games. It is perhaps for that reason as well that the racism issue in Russia seems much more pronounced than it does elsewhere.
Well Irene, sorry to say but the Russians are extremely racist towards ethnic groups within Russia, and in the former USSR/Tsarist Empire.
These are ethnic groups that have suffered centuries of repression, mass murder, deportations etc at the hands of slavic Russians.
The reason for the majority of Russian racism is cultural, based on a massive cultural inferiority complex they abuse and denegrate far older culturally richer ethnic groups, destroy their cultural monuments and heritage, and try and russianise them.
However, these people of these ethnic groups are still alive, and still live where they always did. They speak their languages, and receive their education in these languages. They may practice their religion freely.
Each of this is false if you speak about the majority of the native population that lived in the territory of the modern US and Australia, and New Zealand, when English came there.
And you have the guts to accuse Russia of “mass murder”.
These kind of things are rapidly disappearing in the world and will surely also disappear in Russia, if it doesn’t want to be a stone age barbaric kind of a nation that is. Most of the countries are now the enjoying the mixx of cultures, where people are working for betterment of people, instead of racist working for killing people. The world world is coming closer by giving away their differences, and whoever had, are and will resist will surely disappear. In future you may find them in history book for their brutality or negativeness, and will be looked down upon like Hitler is around nearly every part of the world.
You’ve drawn a very bright picture.
Still: “giving away their differences” – ever been to Saudi Arabia, or any other Moslem country?
“you may find them in history book for their brutality or negativeness” – ever seen the Gare du Nord in Paris?
“will be looked down upon like Hitler” – say, is it ok for a Belgian citizen to wear a burqa?
Dmitry, India has quite a few Moslems.
Which doen’t make it a Muslim country.
Hey you know what what about ethnic internet people, what about ethnic earth people, what about mobile maker, everybody is sharing every bodies beautiful creation , so there is no existence of anything called “ethnic” anywhere, nobody came to this planet with a reserved place or region. You know some white people also have black hair, why not beat them?(because of their black colored hair)
There are differences in every minute things but if somebody is trying to magnify those differences instead of the good things they share, then those somebodies are great fools.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ig_Nobel_Prize_winners
Visit this page to see what creation of somebody who is not ethnic are you are using and at the same time criticizing their country .
Differences makes more differences, where as sharing sets the world free!!!
And about ethnic Americans or Australians, which period of ethnicity are you talking about?
People have always migrated from one land to other(which suited them best) so no land of any particular group which you can claim as “ethnic”.
Remember if you are negative towards something then you are also turning “it” negative towards yourself encouraging nothing but fighting and wars.
So please don’t do do that and share this world peacefully!
We are all humans and nothing else :)
“And about ethnic Americans or Australians, which period of ethnicity are you talking about?’ – what book does every new US president use to make an oath?
We are all humans and nothing else :)
I absolutely agree we are all humans. I do, however absolutely disagree with the “nothing else” part.
wat the f@*#
Paul Goble :
Immigrant workers in Russia commit only three percent of all crimes in that country even though they form ten percent of the population, a prominent Moscow rights activist says — and a third of those crimes involve the falsification of documents, the result of their inability to secure legal registration.
In an interview published in “Velikaya epokha,” Svetlana Gannushkina, a leader of Memorial and the Civil Assistance Committee, singles out for particular criticism Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov who is “eternally claiming that migrants occupy our work places, violation our cultural traditions, speak Russian poorly and commit a large fraction of crimes in Russia.”
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