EDITORIAL
Chuvashov and his Rotten Country
You tell us, dear reader: What does the murder of Moscow judge Eduard Chuvashov tell the world about Vladimir Putin’s Russia?
(a) That the Putin government was too stupid to realize that Chuvashov’s life was in a danger despite many threats arising from his sentencing of racist nationalist thugs?
(b) That the Putin government was too callous to care whether Chuvashov lived or perished?
(c) That the Putin regime wanted Chuvashov dead?
(d) That the Putin regime was too incompetent to protect a marked judge even though it wanted to protect him?
We’re hard pressed to say, and just as hard pressed to say which would be the more horrifying if it were true.
We document in today’s issue Russia’s appalling misconduct in regard to the Polish plane crash, it’s equally revolting pandemic corruption at the highest levels of law enforcement, and now its bloody, brutal violence against the very few remaining Russians who would stand for civility and justice. Viewing this smoking carnage, we see no hope for Russia. We cannot see how the nation can right itself when it is plagued by so many disasters all spawned by the malignant, evil regime of a clan of KGB spies that Russians worship as if they were demigods.
We believe this is the beginning of the end for Russia as we know it.
La Russophobe 
It really has been this way for a long time. When I was very young an older lady who cooked for us at the school lunch room said, “Russians are naturally cruel”.
Interesting. When I was young, an older lady who served lunch to us in a Paris cafe, said, “Americans are naturally mental degenerates”.
Maybe your old lady and this old lady are related?
It would be more convincing if you gave some examples of Russian national kindness. But you can’t, can you, you pathetic little weasel.
And that is Russia in a nutshell.
When I was very young an older lady who cooked for us at the school lunch room said, “Russians are naturally kind”.
No, no, you ignoramus, an EXAMPLE of Russian kindness is a DOCUMENTED instance of A RUSSIAN DOING SOMETHING KIND.
What YOU are doing is EXACTLY the thing you criticized Ron for doing.
Mind if we ask where you got your brain? K-mart? Blue-light special, maybe?
There are too many examples to list them all. Here is the one that counts the most and shows the difference (in terms of kindness) between Russians and Germans:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?ModuleId=10005131
The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Holocaust Encyclopedia
Liberation of Nazi Camps
Soviet forces were the first to approach a major Nazi camp, reaching Majdanek near Lublin, Poland, in July 1944. Surprised by the rapid Soviet advance, the Germans attempted to hide the evidence of mass murder by demolishing the camp. Camp staff set fire to the large crematorium used to burn bodies of murdered prisoners, but in the hasty evacuation the gas chambers were left standing. In the summer of 1944, the Soviets also overran the sites of the Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka killing centers.
The Soviets liberated Auschwitz, the largest extermination and concentration camp, in January 1945. The Nazis had forced the majority of Auschwitz prisoners to march westward (in what would become known as “death marches”), and Soviet soldiers found only several thousand emaciated prisoners alive when they entered the camp. There was abundant evidence of mass murder in Auschwitz.
In the following months, the Soviets liberated additional camps in the Baltic states and in Poland. Shortly before Germany’s surrender, Soviet forces liberated the Stutthof, Sachsenhausen, and Ravensbrueck concentration camps.
Liberators confronted unspeakable conditions in the Nazi camps, where piles of corpses lay unburied. Only after the liberation of these camps was the full scope of Nazi horrors exposed to the world.
You’re a sick, diseased human being.
It’s offensive in the EXTREME for you to suggest the USSR fought WWII to liberate Europe. It moved into Europe to conquer and subjugate it, which did for DECADES, so that now Russia is despised everywhere in post-Soviet space. Russia brought only HORROR, the Katyn massacre just for instance.
What’s more, Russia is INFAMOUS for PERSECUTING its own Jews, driving them out of the country by the millions or murdering them outright.
That’s to say nothing of the laughable fact that you feel you need to reach back more than half a century to find kindness. Clearly, neo-Soviet apes like you don’t even know the meaning of the word.
As a Jew, I will take Czarist Russia over Nazi Germany any day, even though Germans are supposed to be “kind and civilized Westerners”.
Since you never lived in either one, that’s a rather facile statement for you to make. And the question isn’t that, numbskull, it’s whether you’d choose Russia over ISRAEL or AMERICA or WESTERN EUROPE. And, of course, you wouldn’t.
Russians beam with pride as they declare: “Hey, at least we’re not Nazi Germany!”
How pathetic can you get.
My relatives lived in Czarist Russia and all survived. Nobody was ever killed by the Czars.
But almost all my relatives, who came under German rule in the early 1940s, were killed within 2 years.
Are you saying that you are not sure if Hitler was worse on Jews than the Russian czars? You should find out about the Holocaust/Shoah:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/main/showNews/id/8985
Russia to build Holocaust museum; Israel to erect memorial to Soviet Army
17 February 2010
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has told his Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu that Russia would soon build a museum dedicated to the victims of the Holocaust. Netanyahu in response said Israel would erect a memorial dedicated to the efforts of the Soviet Army in liberating Europe during World War II. Netanyahu said the gesture, which he intends to move forward, was in honor of the 65th anniversary of the victory over the Nazis later this year. “No one has the right to forget those terrible losses among the Jewish people in this disaster, though some do. No one has the right to forget the decisive role that Russia, the Soviet Army, played in defeating Nazi Germany,” he said.
Putin pointed out that he was currently in discussion with Moscow’s chief rabbi about the possibility of establishing a Holocaust museum in Moscow.
Netanyahu expressed hope that the memorial for the Red Army would be ready before Putin’s next visit to Israel, expected within the year.
You’re unsurprisingly illiterate for a neo-Soviet goon.
If you think Jews like Russia, you need to have your head examined for lack of brain.
If you claim Russia moved into Germany so it could save Jews, you are a damned liar.
The fact that the Jews are decent enough to recognize the historical accident that Russian forces liberated some concentration camps does NOT mean they think Russia acted out of kindness or that they’ve forgotten the brutal persecution of Jews by the USSR.
Your mendacity is neo-Soviet in nature, the same type exactly that caused the downfall of the USSR.
And besides that, it’s really boring and predictable.
Yawn.
If you are angry at Israel for constructing a memorial to the Soviet Army and with the Israeli Prime Minister who said: “No one has the right to forget the decisive role that Russia, the Soviet Army played in defeating Nazi Germany” – complain about Israel to your editor or your cleaning lady.
Yawn.
Hello LaRussophobe,
You wrote:
“If you think Jews like Russia, you need to have your head examined for lack of brain.”
First, spare us all of your childish insults. In all of your “responses” you use the most primitive expressions to attack the individual with which you disagree.
Second, and most importantly, if Jews really did not like Russia, there wouldn’t be so many Russian billionaires who happen to be Jews (Abramovich, Vekselberg, Deripaska, etc.
In fact, the top billionaires in Russia are Jews.
Now that assertion is a minefield in itself – and one could argue that Jews, whom you accuse of not liking Russia, which if true, then conspired in the massive theft (called privatization) of Russia in the 1990s.
I presume there was a hint of irony in RTR’s recollection of the Parisian lady stating that “Americans are naturally mental degenerates.”
Nevertheless, her statement is very accurate.
When Tusk lost control at the Smolensk crush site, Putin, a Russian, hugged him on camera, now wasn’t that kind?
A woman who worked in a cafeteria. Wow! What an impressive source for information on Russians!
Your source of information documenting Russian national kindness is at least equally impressive!
BTW, have you EVER contributed a source of information about ANYTHING to this blog?
If Ron had said the very same thing at the top of this thread about blacks or jews would you defend his post the same way? Would you demand source material about blacks or jews being kind?If you did, you and I both know what would happen. You want a source of information on Russians being kind? I will give you one. Your very own blog. The life of Lyudmila Alexeyeva, whose dedication to human rights for her people, at great personal cost to her, has been documented many times on this blog. Anyone interested in her could start with your editorial Congratulations, Memorial of 12/20/09. She is Russian and must be kind, how could she not be? With reasonable people verified sources of information are generally demanded for things that fall on the unbelievable side. And a Russian/Russia being kind does NOT fall on that side and you and everyone on this blog KNOWS that. This demand of yours could be termed highly offensive and I question whether anyone should pander to it at all.
Yes, the Russians treated Jews soooo well.
Google co-founder: My family left Russia because of anti-Semitism
By Guy Rolnik, TheMarker correspondent
Tags: Google, Soviet Union
Distress due to anti-Semitism was the main reason his family left Russia, Google co-founder Sergey Brin told TheMarker in an interview over the weekend.
Brin, 34, was in Israel for President Shimon Peres’ presidential conference “Facing Tomorrow,” and visited Google’s Israeli offices as well.
He was born in Moscow in 1973 to a Jewish couple, who belonged to the city’s intelligentsia. His father wanted to study physics at university in order to fulfill his lifelong dream and become an astronomer, but was turned down because the Communist Party banned Jews from physics departments, in order to prevent them from accessing the country’s nuclear secrets.
Mikhail Brin decided to study mathematics instead, and was offered a place although the entry exams for Jews were sat separately, in rooms that were notoriously known as “the gas chambers.” In 1970, he graduated with distinction. Later, he gained his PhD from the University of Krakow, and worked for the Russian economic policy planning agency.
Sergey’s mother, Evgenya, worked in the research lab of the Soviet gas and oil institute. Like her husband, she had struggled against the anti-Semitic discrimination which prevailed in the Soviet academia, and defied it.
In previous interviews, Sergey Brin said that as a child he was not aware of the anti-Semitism that troubled his parents, and came to grips with it only in hindsight. He said, however, that even as a child he didn’t feel at home in Russia.
The Brins decided to leave Russia in 1977. It was the multitude of opportunities that the West had to offer, of which Mikhail became aware during an international conference, that tipped the balance. Despite the fear of being declared “refuseniks,” Evgenya was adamant to leave.
In 1978 they applied for emigration permit, and as a result Mikahil was fired and Evgenya had to resign. The family barely got by for several months until their application was approved in 1979. Shortly afterwards, the gates of the Soviet bloc were hermetically closed for emigration.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/984576.html
So how do you explain the Jews who robbed Russia in the 1990s, politely called privatization?
ANTISEMITISM IN IMPERIAL RUSSIA
Although the focus here is on antisemitism in Imperial Russia during the 18th and 19th centuries, the tradition of Russian anti-Jewish feeling dates back to the middle ages, being a legacy of the influx of Eastern Orthodox Christianity into the Muscovite Empire. Jews were in fact banned from entering the heartland of Muscovy (stretching from Kiev to Moscow). As a result, Jews did not have a significant presence in Muscovite controlled territories until the 15th century. The expulsion of Jews from several countries in western Europe drove large numbers of Jews eastward to places like the kingdoms of Poland and Lithuania, which were generally more open to Jewish settlement. However, as Russian Tsars pushed westward, conquering territory from Poland, Estonia, and Lithuania, the number of Jews which fell under Russian administration grew.
Consequently, Russian Tsars, like Ivan IV (the Terrible) increasingly turned their attention toward Jews, whom they considered the enemies of Christ. When Ivan’s army occupied the Polish city of Polotzk in 1563, which had a large and prosperous Jewish community, all local Jews were ordered to convert to the Orthodox faith. Those who resisted were either drowned in the Dvina River or burned at the stake.
By the 18th century the Russian Empire had spread over Ukraine and eastern Poland and large numbers of Jews had been incorporated. Russian rulers responded to this by enacting laws which limited the areas in which Jews could live, the professions they could engage in, and the property they could own. Pogroms (popular attacks on Jewish communities) also became more common into the 19th century, sometimes with the encouragement of Tsarist authorities. The crisis that the imperial regime experienced in the closing decades of the 19th century also led authorities to exploit ethnic hatreds and antisemitism within the empire, all in an effort to redirect popular discontent with the autocracy. Accordingly, Tsarist plots to foment hatred of Jews resulted in antisemitic propaganda like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a fictional master plan concocted by the Tsar’s secret police that allegedly described the Jewish conspiracy for world domination.
Given the history of popular and official anti-Jewish opinion, by the time of the Revolution in 1917, the Russian Empire (particularly its western regions) was thus considered to be one of the most virulently antisemitic places in Europe.
The excerpts below provide a glimpse into the legal framework of Russian discrimination against Jews.
MINISTER POBEDONOSTSEV ON THE JEWS
Konstantin Petrovich Pobedonostsev served as an adviser to Tsar Alexander III from 1881 to 1893. He was also lay head of the Russian Orthodox Church from 1890 to 1905. His formula for solving the Jewish problem was as follows:
“One-third was to emigrate, one-third was to die, and one-third to disappear (i.e. be converted).”
Source: Edward Flannery, The Anguish of the Jews: Twenty-Three Centuries of Anti-Semitism (New York: Macmillan Company, 1965), pp. 189-190.
STATUTE CONCERNING THE ORGANIZATION OF THE JEWS (1804)
This statute, issued by Tsar Alexander I in December 1804, regulates all aspects of Jewish life in Russia. It is a sweeping statement of discrimination against Russian Jewry.
THE TSAR’S INTRODUCTION
Regulation on Settlement of Jews.
Because of multiple complaints to Us and to the incoming Governing Senate on different abuses and troubles that have harmed agriculture and industry of the population in those Gubernias where Jews live, We considered it necessary by the Decree to the Governing Senate given in the 9th day of November 1802, to organize a special Committee to examine this related matter and to determine means to correct the present regulation of Jews.
The Committee collected all data related to this matter, and after considering different ideas about the settlement of Jews that already existed, present to Us the newly written regulation for them, with an explanation in the special report of the reasoning it is based upon.
After review of the regulation, We found the principle implemented by the Committee very just and all articles of the regulation reflected moderation and care about the genuine welfare of Jews, as well as being based on benefits to native residents of the Gubernias, where those people have permission to live.
Approving the regulation, We forward it to the Governing Senate along with the report for exact fulfillment of all of the instructions it contains.
Read the complete Statute Concerning the Organization of the Jews
JEWS CANNOT OWN PROPERTY (1807-1808)
Beginning on January 1, 1807, in the Governments of Astrakhan and Caucasia, also in those of Little Russia and new Russia, and, beginning on January 1, 1808, in the other Governments, no one among the Jews in any village or hamlet shall be permitted to hold any leases on land, to keep taverns, saloons, or inns, whether under his own name or under a strange name, or to sell wine in them, or even to live in them under any pretext whatever, except when passing through.
CREATION OF THE PALE OF SETTLEMENT (1791 and 1835)
These articles are excerpts from the “Law on the Settlement and Migration of Jews in the Russia Empire”, which was decreed in 1791 by Catherine the Great. According to this law Jews were prohibited from living in certain areas of the Russian Empire. The region in which Jews were allowed to live later became known as the Pale of Settlement, according to a decree by Tsar Nicholas I issued in April 1835. The Pale of Settlement was abolished by the revolutionary government in 1917.
Article 3. A permanent residence is permitted to the Jews; (a) In the provinces: Grodno, Vilna, Volhynia, Podolia, Minsk, Ekaterinoslav. (b) In the districts: Bessarabia, Bialystok.
Article 4. In addition to the provinces and districts listed in the preceding section, a permanent residence is permitted to the Jews, with the following restrictions: (a) in Kiev province, with the exception of the provincial capital, Kiev; (b) in Kherson province, with the exception of the city of Nikolaev; (c) in Tavaria province, with the exception of the city of Sebatopol; (d) in the Mogilev and Vitebsk provinces, except in the villages; (e) in Chernigov and Poltava provinces, but not within the government and Cossack villages, where the expulsion of the Jews has already been completed; (f) in Courland province permanent residence is permitted only to those Jews who have been registered until the present date with their families in census lists. Entry for the purpose of settlement is forbidden to Jews from other provinces; (g) in Lithland province, in the city of Riga and the suburb Shlok, with the same restrictions as those applying in Courland province…
Article 11. Jews who have gone abroad without a legal exit-permit are deprived of Russian citizenship and not permitted to return to Russia.
Article 12. Within the general area of settlement and in every place where the Jews are permitted permanent residence, they are allowed not only to move from place to place and to settle in accordance with the general regulations, but also to acquire real estate of all kinds with the exception of inhabited estates, the ownership of which is strictly forbidden to Jews…
Article 23. Every Jew must be registered according to the law in one of the legal estates of the realm. Any Jew not complying with this regulation will be treated as a vagrant.
THE MAY LAWS (1882)
Pogroms exploded in Russia in 1881 and lasted for the next two years. Tsar Alexander III, following the policy of “isolation and assimilation,” enacted the following anti-Jewish laws in May 1882.
Article 1. As a temporary measure and until the revision of the laws regulating their status, Jews are forbidden to settle hereafter outside of cities and towns. Exception is made with regard to Jewish villages already in existence where the Jews are engaged in agriculture.
Article 2. Until further order all contracts for the mortgaging or renting of real estate situated outside of cities and towns to a Jew, shall be of no effect. Equally void is any power of attorney granted to a Jew for the administration or disposition of property of the above-indicated nature.
Article 3. Jews are forbidden to do business on Sundays and Christian holidays; the laws compelling Christians to close their places of business on those days will be applied to Jewish places of business.
Article 4. The above measures are applicable only in the governments situated within the pale of settlement.
JEWS ARE TO RECEIVE CHRISTIAN EDUCATION (1844)
This is an excerpt from an official Russian government decree on Jews and education.
“The purpose of educating the Jews is to bring about their gradual merging with the Christian nationalities, and to uproot those superstitions and harmful prejudices which are instilled by the teachings of the Talmud.”
ANTI-JEWISH DISCRIMINATION IN THE RUSSIAN ARMY (1882)
The Tsarist Minister of War issued the following regulation to decrease the number of Jewish doctors in the military because doctors possessed the rights of army officers, a privilege otherwise unattainable for Jews.
First, to limit the number of Jewish physicians…in the Military Department to five percent of the general number of medical men. Second, to stop appointing Jews on medical service in the military districts of Western Russia, and to transfer the surplus over and above five percent to the Eastern districts.
Third, to appoint Jewish physicians only in those contingents of the army in which the budget calls for at least two physicians, with the proviso that the second physician must be a Christian.
It is necessary to stop the constant growth of the number of physicians of the Mosaic persuasion in the Military Department, in view of their deficient conscientiousness in discharging their duties and their unfavorable influence upon the sanitary service in the army.
THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION
Appearing in 1897, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was one of the most widely distributed pieces of antisemitic propaganda ever created. Its authors were members of the Russian secret police (the Okhrana), who sought to strengthen the position of the Tsarist autocracy by claiming that Christian peoples were threatened by a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world. The Protocols became public knowledge in 1905 following the abortive revolution in Russia that year. Russian reactionary groups, called “Black Hundreds” circulated the Protocols in an effort to blame the revolutionary upheaval on Jews. Over the next several decades, the Protocols were translated into multiple European languages and printed throughout Europe. Radical nationalist groups later cited the document as “proof” of the existence of a Jewish world conspiracy.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion PDF
Information on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
TIMELINE OF ANTISEMITIC LAWS IN 19TH CENTURY RUSSIA
This chronology highlights anti-Jewish laws passed under Tsar Alexander III and Nicholas II.
1882 The Governor-General of St. Petersburg orders fourteen Jewish apothecaries to shut down their businesses.
1886 A Senatorial decision sets forth that no Jew could be elected to a vacancy on the board of an orphan asylum.
1886 A circular of the Minister of Finance and a Senatorial decree introduced rigorous restrictions concerning Jews engaged in the liquor traffic, permitting them to sell liquor only from their own homes and owned property.
1887 A Senatorial resolution states that Jews who graduated from a university outside Russia do not belong to the privileged class possessing the universal right of residence by virtue of their diplomas, and therefore must not settle outside the Pale of Settlement.
1887 An Imperial sanction prohibits Jews from settling in Finland.
1889 Jews must obtain a special permit from the Minister of Justice to be elected to the Bar.
1891 An order forbids non-Christians from acquiring real estate in the provinces of Akmolinski, Semirietchensk, Uralsk and Turgai.
1892 In accordance with a proposal of the Imperial Council, the mining industry in Turkestan was closed to Jews.
1894 The Minister of the Interior decreed that Jews that have graduated from a veterinary college are no longer to be admitted to the service of the State.
1895 A Senatorial decision asserts that rabbis possess no right of residence beyond the Pale of Settlement.
1895 A circular of the Minister of War instructs the Cossack authorities in the Caucasus and the Don Territory that Jews visiting the Don, Kuban and Terek provinces for the sake of the medicinal waters are to be turned back.
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Religion/Antisemitism%20Russia.htm
Pogroms in Tsarist Russia:
Russian Pogroms of 1905 – The Russian pogroms of 1905 were a continuation of similar disturbances that had taken place in 1903. Following the Russian defeat in the Russo-Japanese war, there was an abortive revolution. Some reforms and freedoms were granted briefly. The Tsarist government feared revolutionary ferment and identified “the Jews” with the social revolutionaries. The unrest was accompanied by pogroms. After a long period of negotiation and pressure, the Tsarist government finally issued a Manifesto of liberal reform on October 17, 1905. But the plan was violently opposed by reactionary forces, apparently encouraged by the Tsarist police apparatus. The opposition was conveniently vented on the Jews. Major pogroms took place, among other places in Odessa and Kiev, as well as a pogrom in Kishinev, site of the major 1903 pogrom. Self defense efforts were only slightly more successful in saving lives in 1905 than they had been previously. In Kishinev, 19 Jews were killed and 64 were injured. In Bialystok, perhaps the most extensive single pogrom took place in June of 1906. Eighty Jews lost their lives.
Simon Dubnow explained how the Tsarist manifesto of October 17, which was supposed to have brought emancipation to the Jews, instead ignited pogroms. Almost everywhere the manifesto was read, considered or celebrated, pogroms followed:
In the course of one week, nearly fifty anti-Jewish pogroms, accompanied by bloodshed, took plase in various cities (Odessa, Kiev, Kishinev, Kalarash, Simferopol, Romny, Kremenchug, Chernigov, Nicholayev, Yekatrinoslav, Kamenetz-Polosk, Yelisavetgrad, Orsha etc.) in addition to several hundred “bloodless” pogroms, marked in the regular fashion by the destrution of property, plunder, and incendiarism. This disproportion alone shows the direction in which the organized dark forces were active. The strict uniformity and consistency in the carrying out of the counter-revolutionary conspiracy was too palpable to be overlooked.
The customary procedure was as follows: In connection with the manifesto of October 17, the progressive elements would arrange a street procession…. Simultaneous, the participants in in the “patriotic demonstration” — consisting mostly of the scum of society, of detectives and police officials in plain clothes — would emerge from their nooks and crannies, carrying the portrait of the Tsar under the shadow of the national flag, singing the national anthem and shouting, “Hurrah, beat the Zhyds! The Zhyds are eager for liberty. They go against our Tsar to put a Zhyd in his place.” These “patriotic” demonstrators would be accompanied by police and Cossack patrols (or soldiers), ostensibly to preserve order, but in reality to enable the hooligans to attack and maltreat the Jews and prevent the victims from defending themselves. As soon as the Jews assembled for self-defence, they would be driven off by the police and troopers. Thereupon, the “patriotic” demonstrators and the accomplices, joining them on the way, would break up into small bands and disperse all over the city, invading Jewish houses and stores, ruin, plunder, beat, and sometimes slaughter entire families. (Dubnow, Simon, History of the Jews in Russia and Poland, Tr Israel Friedlander, Avoteynu, N.Y. 2000, 479-480)
Most of the pogroms happened upon publication of the Czarist reform manifesto. Anti-Jewish violence assumed a mass character during the events of the Russian Revolution of 1905 to 1907. Equating Jews with “revolution,” loyalist groups — later to be formally organized in such bodies as the Union of the Russian People (“The Black Hundreds” ) — attacked Jews and other groups of suspect loyalty. The riots in Odessa and Kiev claimed hundreds of Jewish victims – about 400 were killed in Odessa alone, and the death toll around the country was well over a thousand. In Odessa, sailors and skilled factory workers were not involved, and often joined defense forces that protected the Jews Both civilian and military authorities were widely condemned for their ineptitude and passivity during these events, Evidence of official connivance is reasonably extensive. General Kaulbars, governor of Odessa refused to stop the Odessa pogrom, which began on October 19. Eyewitnesses also reported seeing policemen directing pogromists to Jewish-owned stores or Jews’ apartments, while steering the rioters away from the property of non-Jews. (Robert Weinberg, “The Pogrom of 1905 in Odessa: A Case Study” in Pogroms: Anti-Jewish Violence in Modern Russian History, John D. Klier and Shlomo Lambroza, eds. (Cambridge,1992): 248-89
The idea that the regime was behind the pogroms at various times has been challenged (See Unravelling of the conspiracy theory: a new look at the pogroms. Klier, John D.. East European Jewish Affairs, 23(2), 1993, p. 79-89). After the breakup of the USSR it became fashionable and ideologically convenient to “revise” the “narrative” of persecution in Tsarist Russia. From a distance, it is easy to discount old accounts of the evils of the Tsarist regime as biased. There is no doubt as well that the Soviet government was interested in demonizing the Tsarist regime and that Soviet propagandists exaggerated the pogroms of the Tsarist era, which were very mild compared to the slaughter that followed in the Russian Civil War Pogroms. But Dubnow and the eye witnesses who recounted the horrors of the Tsarist pogroms were not Soviet propagandists. They told what they saw and knew. The revisionist account ignores a mountain of contemporary evidence, that shows a consistent pattern of Anti-Semitism and direct or indirect involvement of government officials and agents in stirring up hate against the the Jews, as well as the activities of the ubiquitous Tsarist secret police. Only the credulous could believe that the government, which had put down the 1905 revolution with decisive force, could not control repeated outbreak of violence against Jews. Strange that the masses did not attack students or others identified with the revolution but only the Jews. A New York Times dispatch of February 22 1907, insists that General Kaulbars, encouraged another pogrom in Odessa in 1907 and was behind the excesses of the Black Hundreds, which it describes as bands of 11-17 year old boys. It notes that Jews were hanged for trying to protect themselves, and that police provided no protection. Kaulbars refused to disarm the Black Hundreds.
Sporadic violence continued in the aftermath of the failed revolution, most notoriously on June 3 – June 6 1906 in Białystok, in the Kingdom of Poland (annexed to Russia), where a pogrom claimed eighty dead. Jewish self defense was apparently effective in preventing a far worse massacre. The district attorney was reportedly one of the main organizers of the pogrom.
The increasing incidence of Jewish self-defense, complicates the attribution of responsibility for these events. The Russian government, for its part, sought to characterize the pogroms in Gomel and Białystok as “Jewish pogroms,” or attacks by Jews against the Christian population. The government issued a report insisting that there had been a series of Jewish “outrages,” beginning in February of 1905. The Jews had murdered and terrorized police officials, rendering the police inefficient, the report claimed. The Jews had fired on government forces to prevent them from stopping the plundering of Jewish property, and the Jews had attacked government property. The government promised that those responsible (meaning the Jews) would be punished. (Say Jews Caused Bialystok Massacre, NYT July 5, 1906). Revisionist historians who claim to “debunk” conspiracy theories actually takes this sort of cynical claptrap seriously, and imply that the Jewish defense groups, which had scant arms, were willing to provoke a confrontation with fully armed government troops.
Ami Isseroff
March 29, 2009
http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Russsian_pogroms_1905.htm
Try again Russian Typical Retard you are incredibly stupid if you think Russians love Jews.
Besides, my Jewish friends from Israel who were born in Russia loathe and despise Russian scum such as yourself.
If you really are a Jew I would be highly surprised.
Another short history of Russian anti semitism including the Pamyat background.
Russian Antisemitism, Pamyat, and the Demonology of Zionism
by William Korey
The emergence in Russia of the chauvinist antisemitic movement, Pamyat in 1987 has startled Western society even as it has stirred deep fears and anxiety among Jews and democratic forces within Russia. How could a supposedly Communist society whose founder, V. I. Lenin, had railed against racism and bigotry, give birth to a proto-fascist ideology and organization?
This study seeks to respond to the understandable, if provocative, query. The roots of Pamyat’s ideology are traced to the tsarist Black Hundreds in the early part of the twentieth century, to certain aspects of later Stalinism and, most especially, to a virulent official Judeophobic propaganda campaign, masquerading as anti-Zionism, from 1967 to 1986.
What emerged in this centrally-directed campaign which saturated the public media was the demonization of Zionism, ascribing to the historic and modern Jewish drive for self-identity an evil and corrupting essence. Zionism was equated on an official level with every form of moral outrage and, at the same time, was applied in a rather unsubtle manner to Jews and Jewishness.
Analysis would demonstrate that the notorious tsarist forgery, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, shielded only by a Leninist linguistic gloss, stood at the core of the propaganda drive. That drive was extended in every direction,internationally, to intimidate the West,and, internally, to Jews themselves in order to silence any aspiration for self-identity.
Although the antisemitic campaign was finally halted at the state level by Mikhail Gorbachev, the social ground had already been fertilized for a populist and chauvinist Pamyat movement, emerging in 1987, which could exploit the much freer atmosphere of glasnost to pursue a program of hate. The earlier ideological roots could now flourish openly. Zionism, perceived as the embodiment of satanism, was to become Pamyat’s principal target.
How the new and publicly blatant antisemitism functioned and, more importantly, how it was bolstered by the entrenched nationalist and communist apparatus in political and literary life throughout the glasnost era and beyond constitute the heart of this inquiry. To the extent that these nationalist and chauvinist forces remain throbbing, vital elements in contemporary Russian society, they inevitably invite a profound sense of concern among Jews and in the civilized community generally. Documentation provided here, hopefully, can serve to reinforce that concern.
The Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has contributed significantly to making this work possible. Important additional assistance has been provided by the Sonya Staff Foundation. Valuable support was extended by the Joyce Mertz-Gilmore Foundation. In making travel possible to complete research findings, the Memorial Foundation for Jewish Culture was especially helpful.
The author is deeply appreciative for the constant encouragement of his wife, Esther. He is also deeply indebted to Seymour Reich, former president of B’nai B’rith, and to James Rapp for various types of support. Gerald Baumgarten of the Anti-Defamation League was a continuous source of needed documentation. Excellent secretarial and typing services were rendered by Eva Owen. Finally, I am very much indebted to Alifa Saadya for her extensive technical assistance in the production of this book.
Chapter 1
Historical Background
Contemporary Pamyat proudly traces its lineage and heritage to the Union of Russian People, founded in November 1905. Thus, at a meeting in Moscow on June 6, 1990 of a Pamyat group called the “People’s Russian Orthodox Movement,” the speaker, Aleksandr Kulakov, told seven hundred participants that “we consider ourselves the spiritual successors of the Union of Russian People.” Analysis of the Union and its aims, scarcely discussed in western circ, aside from specialists on tsarist history, can serve as a useful point of departure for an inquiry into Pamyat.
Like the latter, the Union emerged into public view during a grave political and economic crisis in the Russian Empire which had weakened the power and authority of tsarism in the wake of defeat during the 1904+05 Russo-Japanese War. Its primary purpose, as perceived by its leaders, was to resist the unleashed wave of reform and revolution and preserve intact the institutions of the monarchy, Russian Orthodoxy, and the empire.
The Union’s internal character and tactics were quite distinctive, indeed unique. Until then, tsarism had largely preserved itself along with its handmaidens,the Church and an empire of subjugated nations,by the force of imperial arms and armies. But a defeated Russian army, virtually in self-dissolution, made this technique uncertain. In the absence of other available means, populism,marked by a profound, xenophobic chauvinism, constituted the essence of the means by which the Union of Russian People attempted to support law and order, Throne and Altar.
What had been brought onto the historical scene, for both Russia and Europe generally, was a new style of right wing politics involving mass activity. It was perhaps quite appropriate to dub the Union’s role, as a prominent European history work would note, as “Europe’s first fascist organization.” One of the Union’s reactionary leaders, V. M. Purishkevich, was referred to by his Sovbiographer as a “fascist” who had set an authentic style for a movement that would blossom forth in Europe a decade later. Some historians have suggested that the Union exerted a “tangible and substantial impact” upon German National Socialism through Baltic and Russian emigrés who found themselves in Germany after World War I.
Attributes of the fascism of the twenties and thirties were not uncommon for the Union, including street violence, paramilitary formations wearing special dress (for example, the “Yellow Shirts” in Odessa), personal assaults upon enemies (even murders), distribution of literature designed to stir envy and hate, marches and demonstrations. At its ideological core stood a vicious antisemitism. Jews were seen as dominating the press, banking and, through the Masonic societies, all key spheres of Russian life and influencing prominent liberal government ministers. Count Sergei Witte was especially singled out as a dupe of Jews and Masons. The Union denounced him as a traitor for “extorting” the democratic October Manifesto from Tsar Nicholas II, and for imposing upon the country a “Judeo-Masonic Constitution.”
Equality of ethnic rights, as elaborated by the Constitution of 1905, was regarded as anathema. Instead, what was sought was the severest restriction upon Jews and their total elimination from the capitalist economy. Governmental legislation, economic boycott and, if necessary, expulsion to Palestine was proposed in order to achieve this. Not surprisingly, the Union was a major backer of the notorious blood libel trial of Mendel Beiliss.
Targets of the Union extended to Masons, liberals, capitalists, foreigners, and westerners. They were seen as alien to Russian nationality and its tradition. But all these “cosmopolitan” elements were understood as only instruments of Jews. Antisemitism was the cornerstone of the systemic beliefs of the Union of Russian People. Its followers, along with the members of other small groups of rightist antisemites were dubbed the “Black Hundreds.” Not accidentally, when Pravda finally acknowledged the existence of antisemitism in the Soviet Union,which didn’t occur until July 1990,it referred to Pamyat and other antisemites by the then almost forgotten phrase, “Black Hundreds.”
While the Union’s chairman was a physician, Dr. A. I. Dubrovin, and his two deputies were a nobleman-landowner (Purishkevich), and an engineer, the majority of the membership ranged from petty-bourgeois elements to unemployed workers, peasants, skilled proletarians, and professionals. Never before had the reactionary right in Russia taken on such an all-class character. Estimates place its size in Moscow alone as 40,000, while overall membership figures,given by the Union,range from 600,000 to 3 million, although a hostile source estimated the membership as only 10+20,000. Even that low figure was significant for the times.
The Union had received financial assistance from officials within the Ministry of Interior. It also had access to the printing presses of the police department, which enabled it to conduct large-scale propaganda campaigns against liberals, democrats and, especially Jews. At the Union’s disposal was an underground fighting organization composed of minor police agents, governmental employees, and criminal elements. They often stirred up armed attacks on Jews, while the Union’s links to high officials, particularly in the Ministry of Interior, enabled them to acquire a secure immunity.
Interwoven into the Union’s belief system was a set of ideas that found expression in the historic forgery, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was first published in 1903 by the reactionary tsarist publicist, Pavel Krushevan. Fabricated by a tsarist police agent in Paris who drew upon an obscure work written in the France of Louis Napoleon and totally unrelated to Jews, the Protocols took on a life of its own. They were alleged to be the secret decisions taken by the “Elders of Zion,” at the first Zionist Congress held in Basel in 1897.
Five major themes predominate in the notorious forgery: 1) international Jewry, or Zionism, through the “Chosen People” concept, aspires to world domination; 2) that aspiration is to be achieved through guile, cunning and conspiratorial devices which will deceive the “goyim cattle” (the language of the Protocols) who are easily manipulated; 3) an especially powerful mechanism for achieving world domination is Jewish control over the world banking system whereby “all the goyim” will begin “to pay us the tribute of subjects”; 4) equally crucial as a mechanism of control is the ownership of the press, the seizure of which by Jews or Zionists will enable them to acquire “the power to influence while remaining…in the shade”; and 5) the deception is maximized by infiltration and manipulation of Masonic lodges which will “throw dust in the eyes of their fellows.”
Only fifteen years later did the Protocols exert a powerful popular impact. It was used extensively during the Civil War in 1918+20 in the Ukraine, when 30,000 Jews were massacred and twenty-eight percent of Jewish homes were destroyed. This was the largest pogrom in Russian history since the massacre of Jews in the Polish Ukraine during the Bogdan Khmelnitsky uprising in the middle of the seventeenth century. Later, the Protocols became the solid basis for Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf and his “Final Solution.”
The “Black Hundreds,” of course, did not spring full-blown from the revolutionary developments and political uncertainties in Russia in the first decade of the twentieth century. The powerful and omnipresent Russian Orthodox Church which had been intimately linked to the tsarist state, had long identified the Jews as “enemies of Christ.” When Tsarina Elizaveta in the mid-eighteenth century was asked to invite Jews into the Empire in order to develop greater commerce, she refused saying, “from the enemies of Christ, I wish neither gain nor profit.” Only in consequence of the three partitions of Poland in which Tsarina Catherine the Great joined Prussia and Austria, did vast numbers of Jews become part of the Empire. The bulk were forced to live in the Pale of Settlement, prevented from owning land, subjected to a numerus clausus in higher education and a host of discriminatory barriers.
Periodic pogroms (the noun is derived from the Russian verb pogromit, which means “to destroy” or “to ruin”) constituted a signal tsarist contribution to international discourse. Elizavetgrad, a Ukrainian town of 32,000 was the starting point on April 15, 1881. Prompted by emissaries from the St. Petersburg aristocrcalling for the “people’s wrath” to “be vented on the Jews,” the peasants unleashed violence against the Jews in the small city. A wave of killings, rape, and pillage spread quickly to hundreds of other towns and then to the large cities of Berdichev and Kiev. By the end of the year it reached Warsaw, an outpost of tsarism, and moved on to other parts of the Empire.
The record of the 1881+82 pogroms was impressive as an example of frenzied antisemitism. Twenty thousand Jews were made homeless, 100,000 were ruined economically and Jewish property valued at $80 million was destroyed. A contemporary Russian writer described the trauma as “unending torture.” It triggered the mass emigration of Jews to the West.
Like many other oppressors before and after them, the tsarist authorities blamed the victims for the violence. The Minister of Interior, Count Nikolai P. Ignatyev, in a memorandum to Tsar Alexander III on August 22, 1881, blamed the pogroms upon “the Jews’ injurious activities” directed against the peasantry. Hostility toward Jews was not restricted to the tsarist aristocracy and the peasantry. The radical populist intellectuals comprising the Narodnaia Volia urged on the pogromists on grounds that the “kikes…rob and cheat” the peasant and “drink his blood.”
The depth of popular anti-Jewish sentiment, while broadly surmised, cannot be known with precision. Negative perceptions about Jews were integral to Russian society. A tsarist Commission, comprised of moderates, after five years of lengthy inteand in-depth study of the Jewish problem, concluded in 1888 that Jews have a tendency to “shirk state obligations” and to avoid “physical manual labor.”
According to the fairly liberal Commission: “The passion for acquisition and money-grubbing is inherent in the Jew from the day of his birth; it is characteristic of the Semitic race, manifest from almost the first pages of the Bible.”
Such popular views provided the fertile soil for nourishing the ideas in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Popular antisemitism in tsarist Russia made possible the extraordinary blood libel trial, the Beiliss Case, in Kiev in 1911+12. Clearly, pogromist ideology was part of the baggage the Russians carried with them into the twentieth century.
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, vigorously fought pogromist attitudes. While seeking to make antisemitism and pogroms a capital offense, he publicly denounced Judeophobia. “Shame on those who foment hatred toward the Jews,” he cried. The vicious stereotyping of Jews persisted even as the Bolshevik leadership in the 1920s tried to eradicate it. The populist Kronstadt uprising against Soviet power in 1921 was based in part upon peasant attitudes toward the “cursed domination” of Jews. In November 1926, the Chairman of the Central Committee of the Soviet regime acknowledged that Soviet white collar workers were “more anti-Semitic today than…under Tsarism.” An official survey of antisemitism among trade union members conducted in February 1929 in Moscow found that “anti-Semitic feeling among workers is spreading chiefly in the backward sections of the working class that have close ties with the peasantry….” At the heart of the prejudice, as it had been in the 1880s and afterwards, was “talk of Jewish domination.”
The 1950+51 Harvard Project on the Soviet Social System was based on interviews with Soviet refugees in the United States, people who had defected or had been captured during World War II or who had fled during 1946+50. The interviews reflected tremendous hostility towards Jews across the board, though the antisemitism of the Ukrainian refugee population was especially severe. Most of those surveyed agreed that Jews occupied a “privileged and favored position” in Soviet society; that they were “business-and-money-minded;” that they were “clannish,” “aggressive” and “pushy;” that they don’t like to work hard and refuse to serve in the front lines of the armed forces. Despite two to three decades of Bolshevik rule, attitudes of the 1880s had remained unchanged.
Prejudice reached especially intense levels during the “anti-cosmopolitan” campaign of 1949+53, climaxed by the notorious “Doctors’ Plot.” Ilya Ehrenburg, otherwise an apologist for Stalin’s rule, was so shocked by the “ugly survival” of antisemitism that he was convinced “that to cleanse minds of age-old prejudices is going to take a very long time.” Had Stalin not died on March 5, 1953, there was certain to be “only one sequel: a nation-wide pogrom,” according to Isaac Deutscher, his distinguished British biographer.
Poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko raised the issue in a major way with his “Babi Yar” in 1961. He bemoaned how “the Russian people were blemished” by antisemitism and how the Communist song, Internationale, can “thunder forth” only when Jew-hatred is “buried for good.” When Nikita Khrushchev objected to Yevtushenko raising the shameful issue, the poet would not be silenced. The popular hate must be faced, he said, for “we cannot go forward to communism with such a heavy load as Judeophobia.”
“Judeophobia” had already become part of official policy by the end of the 1930s. According to Hitler, Stalin told Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop in the fall of 1939 that he would oust Soviet Jews from leading positions the moment he had a sufficient number of qualified non-Jews with whom to replace them. Stalin’s promise was more than a mere diplomatic gesture to placate his new racist ally. In 1942, one year after the Nazi invasion of Russia, the Soviet authorities handed down a secret order establishing quotas for Jews in particularly prominent posts.
According to Milovan Djilas, Stalin in 1946 boasted to him that “in our Central Committee there are no Jews!” Stalin’s daughter revealed that after the war, “in the enrollment at the university and in all types of employment, preference was given to Russians. For the Jews, a percentage quota, (as had been the case during the tsarist era) was, in essence, reinstated.
The government’s policy of discrimination against Jews as individuals was largely a function of two internal developments in the Soviet Union at the time: deepening Russian nationalism (bordering on xenophobia) and the formation of a totalitarian structure. The new Russian nationalism was a dominant characteristic of the struggle against the Old Guard’s “internationalism.” Suspicion fell equally upon those suspected of harboring sympathies with various non-Russian nationalities of the USSR and those linked, in one way or another, with the West.
“Cosmopolitanism” became the Aesopian term used extensively beginning in 1948, to mark postwar antisemitism. The media drive was directed against “cosmopolitans”,those without genuine roots in Russian soil, those without spiritual “passports,” those not really “indigenous.” Marxism was turned on its head. If initially “internationalism”,not national narrowness,was perceived as valuable for a socialist future, now it or its twin, cosmopolitanism, was denigrated and repudiated.
Antisemitism went hand in hand with official Russian national chauvinism, as it had during the tsarist era, at least since the reign of Nicholas I. Certainly, it was not accidental that official antisemitism made its first, if then only momentary, appearance at the time, in 1926, when Stalinist forces were attempting to inculcate a national pride in the doctrine of “socialism in one country.” Chauvinism catered to and fed upon popular prejudices. The World War II years were replete with examples of an unleashed bigotry linked to nationalist fervor. Many of the partisan units for example, were riddled with antisemitism.
That the Jews were particularly suspect in a totalitarian structure impregnated with a distinct chauvinist character is not surprising, for they indeed were a minority with an international tradition and a worldwide religion. Jews everywhere had cultural, emotional and even family ties that transcended national boundaries.
Furthermore, Hannah Arendt has noted that totalitarianism requires an “objective enemy” who, like the “carrier of a disease,” is the “carrier” of subversive “tendencies.”
This aspect of totalitarianism had a distinctive impact on the state’s relationship to the Jews. The very nature of a system which claims both a monopoly on truth and the control of the “commanding heights” by which the preordained may be reached precludes human error or inadequacy. Only plots and conspiracies by hidden forces could interrupt, hinder or defeat “scientifically” planned programs. Stalin even considered his daughter’s marriage to a Jew a “Zionist plot.” Other Soviet leaders may not necessarily have perceived the Jew as a “plotter,” but, cynically, accepted the functional usefulness of such a perception. The cynicism enabled the Jew to be cast in the role of a scapegoat, to be blamed for failures or difficulties in the regime’s internal and foreign policies.
If both chauvinism and totalitarianism lent themselves to the absorption of popular antisemitism at high levels, the background of the Party leadership since the late 1930s helps explain the transmission and persistence of folk imagery about the Jew. With the influx of this group into the leadership, the wide cultural and intellectual horizons which characterized the pre-Purge Party leaders gave way to horizons that were provincial and cramped.
On both national and regional levels, almost half of the top Party executives in the early 1960s had peasant fathers. Only six percent had white collar origins, while a little more than a quarter came from the proletariat. Most likely, many of them learned negative Jewish stereotypes in their own , their own neighborhoods, their own towns.
The “thaw” following the death of Stalin was not marked by any effort be reduce the pervasive negative stereotyping of Jews. The broad discriminatory pattern against Jews sometimes totally, sometimes through tokenism, continued. Jews were excluded from leadership positions in the Party, the Soviets, the state apparatus, the security organs, the diplomatic corps, the foreign trade organs, and the defense establishment. Quota systems in higher education abetted the patterns. Such patterns ineluctably reinforced hostile perceptions of Jews. An interview by a visiting French parliamentary delegation with Nikita Khrushchev in May 1956 highlighted the attitude. Khrushchev was asked about anti-Jewish discrimination. He answered:
This is a complicated problem because of the position of the Jews and their relations with other peoples. At the outset of the Revolution, we had many Jews in the leadership of the Party and State. They were more educated, maybe more revolutionary than the average Russian. In due course we have created new cadres.
Should the Jews want to occupy the foremost position in our republics now, it would naturally be taken amiss by the indigenous inhabitants. The latter would ill-receive these pretensions, especially as they do not consider themselves less intelligent nor less capable than the Jews. Or, for instance, when a Jew in the Ukraine is appointed to an important post and he surrounds himself with Jewish collaborators, it is understandable that this should create jealousy and hostility toward Jews.
Hostility to Jewry was strengthened when Khrushchev launched in 1959 his campaign against religion generally. The propaganda drive against Judaism ineluctably, unlike the propaganda drive against other religions, took on an antisemitic dimension. Hardly unusual in the campaign was Trofim Kichko’s Judaism without Embellishment, a book published in 1963 by the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences in Kiev which carried the typical set of canards about Jews: “What is the secular God [of the Jews]? Money. Money. Money, that is the jealous God of Israel.”
Judaism was linked with Zionism, Jewish bankers, and Western capitalists in a great conspiracy. A distinguishing feature of the work was the incorporation into it of a series of illustrative cartoons showing Jews with hooked noses, and similar vulgar stereotypes. It reminded one of Julius Streicher’s Der Stürmer in the halcyon days of Hitler. After a worldwide outcry, the Soviet Party’s Ideological Commission finally acknowledged in April 1964 that the book “might be interpreted in the spirit of antisemitism.”
What complicated the problem was the fact that no efforts were made to reverse the traditional attitudes about Jews that reached back deep into Russian history. References to Jewish history in Soviet textbooks were virtually non-existent. Little mention was made in textbooks or in newspapers of the heroic role played by Jews in the Red Army. Almost nothing was said about the enormous tragedy of the Holocaust or of the Jewish resistance to Nazism. Counteraction to antisemitism was rare. Earlier perceptions about Jews that could be traced back to tsarist epochs, in consequence, were hardly unusual.
Yet, this residue of bigotry from the past was not of a character that would explain the ferocity and virulence of Judeophobia that emerged with glasnost. One of the Soviet Union’s most prominent scientists, Professor Yuri Osipiyan, who also served in President Mikhail Gorbachev’s inner cabinet, the so-called Presidential Council, stated in the spring of 1990 that “ordinary, everyday antisemitism exists in the Soviet Union, probably to a greater extent than elsewhere in Europe.” The past is of course prologue to the present. Can the early twentieth century developments,the Union of Russian People and the Pro tocols,by themselves explain the distinctive Judeophobia of the present?
William Korey is a leading American and international authority on East European antisemitism and human rights. A graduate of the University of Chicago, he specialized in Soviet studies at the Russian (later Harriman) Institute of Columbia University where he received his Ph.D. in 1960. He served on the faculties of City College of New York and Columbia University, and was Visiting Professor at Yeshiva University and Brooklyn College.
Human rights became Dr. Korey’s primary focus after 1960 when he was made director of B’nai B’rith’s United Nations Office and then placed in charged of B’nai B’rith International Policy and Research. In these capacities, he stood in the forefront of the struggle for Jewish and minority rights in the USSR and elsewhere.
Dr. Korey is the author of The Soviet Cage: Anti-Semitism in Russia (Viking Press) and The Promises We Keep: Human Rights, The Helsinki Process and American Foreign Policy (St. Martin’s Press). He has written a great number of Op. Ed. articles published in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, and other newspapers. His analyses have appeared in numerous scholarly and popular journals and in a variety of edited volumes.
Numerous awards have been extended to Dr. Korey including a four-year travel and research grant by the Ford Foundation. He is the recipient of B’nai B’rith’s highest award,the President’s Gold Medal.
http://sicsa.huji.ac.il/studies2.html
Your jumbo-sized spamming is obnoxious to the nth degree.
Still, have you ever considered for a moment why Jews have been evicted or expelled from almost every nation in which they have lived since time immemorial?
Coincidence? I think not.
Excerpt from an interesting article with a take on a different view of the contemporary cultural climate:
“Russians are free from political correctness and Jew-worship, those annoying features of the post-war West.
Recently a group of Russian writers visited Israel and met there with their readers: there are more than a million Russian-speaking Israelis. The readers did not beat around the bush and demanded from the authors that they swear allegiance to the ruling ideology: condemn Iran, glorify Israel, this fortress of democracy in the Middle East, denounce the Russian supply of weapons to Arabs, and slam Russian antisemitism. Jews usually feel like creditors, and easily come up with demands.
A Western visitor would deliver the goods, though he would probably complain to his spouse afterward. Denial of omnipresent and eternal antisemitism is not better than denial of the holocaust. But Russia is free, and when readers asked the Russian writer Maria Arbatova to tell them how she suffers from antisemitism and how dreadful life in Russia is under Putin’s dictatorship, she demurred.
Forget it, she said. Moscow today is like the Paris of the 1960s: we have more events in a day than you have in a month. Today, glorious Moscow is a world center. As for you, we are tired of you, and the Arabs are tired of you and of your demands. This failed Western project has outlived its usefulness. If my children were to even think of moving to Israel, I’d tell them: over my dead body! Russia never had antisemitism. I never experienced it in the whole of my fifty years of life. You say Jews could not find a job? It happened once to my Jewish mother that she was rejected, but she immediately found another, better job by using her family connections.
This was the answer a prominent Russian liberal writer gave to the Israeli readers. Far from being a Russian nationalist, the leading feminist writer Maria Arbatova’s grandfather was an important Jewish leader, and her great-grandfather was a founder of the Zionist movement in Tsarist Russia. But her reply was universal and paradigmatic. In the West, Tony Jutt and Harold Pinter could say that — maybe Philip Weiss. Others are still scared. But the words that the German bishops mouthed and then repented can be easily said in free Russia, by descendants of Jews, or by anybody. The mystic charm of Jews has worn off in Russia, where Political Correctness is unheard of, and where the churches are full and people bless each other with “Christ is Risen”. Instead of scaring and offending Jews, as American multicultural theory would have it, so many of my Moscow friends consider themselves ‘just Russians’ despite having a Jewish parent or two, and with an intermarriage rate of about 80% Russian Jewry is a thing of the past. Many of them had been misled by Zionist propaganda, but they had enough time to recognize it and regret their haste. “
See RTR, the real attitude or Russians towards Jews……
You haven’t answered my question.
Why have Jews been evicted or expelled from almost every country in human history?
Really Dima, you exaggerate (lie) somewhat.
Jews have never been expelled from modern civilised countries such as the USA, United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc, etc, etc.
They are only evicted/expelled from backward, racist, and inferior states such as Russia.
It is interesting to note that one of many reasons that Georgians despise the Russians is because Russians suffer from the disease of antisemitism.
Here is a comprehensive list:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
Note that the Jews have been expelled from every country in Europe, including England.
Georgians despise Russians because of their antisemitism? You’re very creative.
As for the US, the article clearly states:
[1] On December 17, 1862, General Ulysses Grant wrote to the Assistant Adjutant General of the US Army:
“I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be infused into post commanders, the specie regulations of the Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by the Jews and other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that I instructed the commanding officer at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the department. But they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at a military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy at an agreed rate, paying gold.”
Dima, as you are Russian I will forgive your stupidity this once.
I said Jews have never been expelled from modern civilised countries such as the USA, United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc, etc, etc
Did you note the words modern and civilised in that sentence?
Medieval England was neither modern nor civilised.
By the way, Georgia has a very large Jewish minority, and very good relations with Israel.
And, as your reading comprehension is very poor, I stated one of many reasons that Georgians despise the Russians is because Russians suffer from the disease of antisemitism
Please try and grow up little Russian.
Your nation is a stain on the world.
Andrew wrote: “I said Jews have never been expelled from modern civilised countries such as the USA, United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc, etc, etc”
So what? Are you saying that Jews were expelled from modernRussia? Under what President did it happen? Yeltsin? Putin? Medvedev?
But RTR, Russia is neither modern or civilised
However one just has to look at the mass exodus of Russian Jews caused by state sponsored antisemitism of the Soviet period when Jews were “encouraged” (forcefully in some cases) to leave, to see the real attitude of Russians to Jews.
And once again RTR, you fail to enter into debate with Russian antisemitic types such as Dima, RTS, and a multitude of others.
I suggest your silence is tacit agreement with their opinions?
From your favourite site:
Factors for this immigration wave
The overwhelming victory of Israel during the Six-Day War, brought to a turn in the thinking of the Jews of the USSR. The victory increased their feeling of national pride amongst them. Furthermore, it increased their feeling of alienation with the USSR, which had a pact with the Arab states during the course of the war. After the war the Soviet Jews started to send letters to the Soviet authorities in demand of letting them immigrate to Israel. Except for the arousal of the national emotions amongst the Jews of the USSR, there were also additional reasons for them to choose to immigrate:
-Jews were discriminated against in higher education institutions (in a policy known as Numerus clausus), government institutions, and in professional advancement.
-Anti-semitism and anti-Zionistic propaganda was common in Soviet mass media.
-Many Jews were dissatisfied with the political and economical.
-Increased nationalism among Soviet nations made some Jews consider their right for a national identity.
-There was increased communication between Soviet Jews and Jews worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah_from_the_Soviet_Union_in_the_1970s
Andrew wrote: “But RTR, Russia is neither modern or civilised”
Well, Russia is centuries more modern and civilised than your own asiatic country of Georgia, a republic whose main contribution to the world and the only famous sons are two worst mass murderers in human history – Stalin and Beria. A republic that voluntarily elected a genocidal fascist Gamsakhurdia as its first President under the nazi slogan “Georgia for Georgian!”. A country whose economy is worse than in Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_within_the_Russian_Empire
The Russian era brought unprecedented social and economic change to Georgia as well as new intellectual currents from Europe. Count Vorontsov’s new policies successfully won over the Georgian nobility, who became increasingly Europeanised. Incorporation into the Russian Empire changed Georgia’s orientation away from the Middle East and towards Europe as members of the intelligentsia began to read about new ideas from the West.
http://www.ceiig.ch/Report.html
The installation of a system of modern administration ranging from road building to an efficient education system was another achievement brought to Georgia by Russia.
So tell me RTR, when did Gamsakhurdia commit an internationally recognised “genocide”, by the way, he was a very good friend of Ardzinba (a real genocidal maniac by the way) who supported Gamsakhhurdia during the civil war which never the less resulted in Gamsakhurdia being removed from power.
Meanwhile Russia, and Russian scum such as yourself, supported real genocidal maniacs, the Apsu and Ossetian separatists, who committed massive ethnic cleansing upon the Georgian populations of both provinces, along with mass murder, rape, looting, the destruction of ancient settlements and cultural monuments such as Churches etc.
Of course, your article fails to mention the Russian suppression of the Georgian language, the frequent rebellions against Russian rule caused by the depredations of the Russian military administration, the massacres committed by Russian soldiery, the suppression of the Georgian Church etc, etc, etc.
By the way retard, did you manage to take a look at the map of the Caucasus (1856) on the wiki article?
It clearly shows Abkhazia as part of the Imereti/Kutaisi governorate, a integral part of Georgia.
Well done RTR, you are such a chump…..
But neither the Russian romantic cult of the Caucasus, nor the hospitable welcome extended by Tbilisi society to Russian officers and poets, could efface the deep-seated antagonism which the experience of a generation of Russian rule had implanted in the Georgian nation. There were observers who saw with concern the effect which foreign misrule was having on the Georgian population. One eyewitness, Colonel Rottiers, a Belgian in the Russian service, went so far as to recommend that Russian officials be removed altogether from service in Georgia. ‘The Georgians,’ he wrote, ‘would submit to a governor from among their own nation. They would be happy to see punished, or at least recalled, the officials of whom they have had the most to complain. They ask for an administrative system which extends beyond questions of criminal, civil and commercial law, and would like to have laws based as far as possible on the code of their ancient kings. It is wrong to despise as barbarians a people whose aspirations testify at once to their love of abstract justice, and to so pronounced a sense of nationality. . . . They desire, finally, to be eligible according to merit to posts which up to now have been bestowed by favour alone, and, furthermore, they would like themselves to elect their municipal magistrates, their mouravs or justices of the peace. “But,” you may say, “these folk are as good as demanding a constitution!” And why not? Those who have seen them at close quarters deem them ripe for this privilege. When it is a question of bestowing liberty on a nation, that is the crucial point at issue.’ 34
The conspiracy of 1832
The moral climate of the 1820’s was conducive to romantic nationalism and to movements of revolt against imperial systems. Throughout Europe, the ideals typified by the Holy Alliance and the policies of Metternich and the Russian autocrats were being called in question by thinking men. The activities of the Carbonari in Naples, the liberation movement in Greece, the abortive Decembrist rising in Russia, the Paris revolution of 1830 and the general insurrection in Poland, were all symptoms of a general malaise.
The Georgians had not forgotten their chivalrous days of old, and the general mood of romantic effervescence found response in their hearts. There were also material causes of grievance. Even the higher aristocracy were discontented, especially as the Russian administration had curtailed the landlords’ feudal jurisdiction over their peasants and ousted them from participation in local government, as well as questioning the titles of nobility of some of the leading princely families. Continual wars had bled the country white. The Russian writer Griboedov commented in 1828 that ‘the recent invasion by the Persians, avenged by Count PaskevichErivansky with so much glory for Russia, and the triumphs which he is now winning in the Turkish pashaliks, have cost the Transcaucasian provinces enormous sacrifices, above all Georgia, which has borne a war burden of exceptional magnitude. It is safe to say that from the year 1826 up to the present time she has suffered in the aggregate heavier losses in cereal crops, pack animals and beasts of burden, drovers, etc., than the most flourishing Russian province could have sustained.’ 35 The prevailing mood was aptly summed up in a quatrain by Prince Ioane Bagration, son of the last king of Kartlo-Kakheti, Giorgi XII:
The Scythians [i.e., Russians] have taken from us the entire land, and not even a single serf have they given to us. Not satisfied with Kartli and Kakheti, they have added to them even Imereti. We have grown poor in misfortune, and have no advocate to whom to turn. We ask justice from above; we shall see how God decrees!
A striking portrayal of the results of a generation of Russian rule over Georgia is contained in the report submitted by two Russian senators, Counts Kutaysov and Mechnikov, who carried out an official inspection of Georgia in 1829-30. The state of affairs displayed in this document resembles that so effectively pilloried in Gogol’s comedy, Revizor, or The Inspector-General.
‘Not in a single government chancellery in Transcaucasia is there a shadow of that order in the forms and procedure of transacting business which is prescribed by law. In some chancelleries, this is because of their defective organization; in others, because of the incapacity and lack of experience of the officials posted for service there, and the complete absence of personnel capable of efficient work. . . . The quantity of unresolved lawsuits turned out to be beyond calculation. They had piled up, not because they were submitted in great quantities, but because no efforts were made to bring them to a prompt settlement.’
According to these two senators, Russian officials were volunteering to serve in Georgia simply in order to benefit by the advancement in rank automatically granted as an incentive to undertake a tour of duty in the Caucasus. On arrival there, they spent their period of service in wandering idly from one department to another, and waiting impatiently for the moment to return home. Arbitrary caprice rather than observance of official regulations governed the administration of justice. Thus, the Governor of Tbilisi, P. D. Zavaleysky, and his colleagues, had deprived some proprietors of their lands, and granted these to others, just as they saw fit. ‘In Imereti’, the senators went on, ‘we found abuses of power and acts of extortion.’ The main culprits were the head of the local administration, State Councillor Perekrestov, and his colleagues. The senators removed these persons from office and committed them for trial. The general muddle was further aggravated by the right which the Russian commanders-inchief at Tbilisi had arrogated to themselves of acting as supreme judges of appeal, and sometimes forcing local tribunals to give verdicts against the canons of Russian law, in which nobody therefore had any faith. ‘Although certain provinces have been joined to Russia for about thirty years,’ the senators continued, ‘the administration in Transcaucasia still bears the stamp of the irresponsible, capricious and vague methods of government practised by the former rulers of this country.’ This applied particularly to the basis of land tenure and the system of serfdom. ‘Some peasants exercise rights of ownership over other peasants, as if they were themselves members of the gentry class. . . . The princes there possess nobles as their vassals, and dispose of their persons as well as of their property.’ The dues and services rendered by the peasants to their proprietors were innumerable, and not defined by any law. The lot of the farmers was rendered intolerable by the behaviour of Russian quartermasters. When grain and other supplies needed for the troops were commandeered, often at artificially low prices, payment was frequently withheld and embezzled by the military commanders themselves. There were even cases where the authorities acted as receivers of stolen property, and protected the thieves from prosecution by the rightful owners.
Senators Kutaysov and Mechnikov went on to underline the backward state of the social services and public amenities in Georgia. There were no charitable foundations, orphanages, almshouses, homes for incurables, or lunatic asylums. One small, wretched hospital served the needs of the entire population. Public hygiene and the study of tropical diseases demanded urgent attention. The towns were still dirty and squalid in appearance. There were no regular travel facilities or posting stations. The income of the Georgian Exarchate was not being spent, as it should have been, in keeping the churches under its authority in good repair. The churches in both Eastern Georgia and Imereti were in a wretched and dilapidated condition. Some of these, which the senators recognized as possessing outstanding architectural merit and historical interest, were literally falling down; others had holes in the roof, through which rain poured down upon the worshippers. The senators concluded by informing the emperor that they had uncovered in the administration of Transcaucasia abuses, malpractices and oppression of the people, and had endeavoured to put an end to these once for all. They hoped that the state of Georgia would swiftly take a turn for the better. 36 This hope, as it turned out, was a trifle premature.
It was natural, given these conditions, that the Georgians should have yearned for the removal of Russian dominance and the return of the house of Bagration. The senior members of the Georgian royal family were by now dead, or else for the most part resigned to exclusion from power. An exception was Prince Alexander Bagration, who was still living among the Persians, and ever on the alert for a chance of action against the hated Russians. Within Russia, the spirit of Georgian nationalism was kept alive principally by Okropir Bagration, a younger son of King Giorgi XII and the heroic Queen Mariam, and also by his cousin, Prince Dimitri, son of Yulon. Okropir and Dimitri used to hold gatherings of Georgian students at Moscow and St. Petersburg, and attempted to inspire them with patriotic feeling. A secret society was formed in Tbilisi to work for the re-establishment of an independent kingdom under Bagratid rule. Okropir himself visited Georgia in 1830, and held talks with the principal conspirators, who included members of the princely houses of Orbeliani and Eristavi, as well as the publicist Solomon Dodashvili. They hoped to enlist the support of Western Georgian nationalists who had been active in the revolt in Imereti in 1820. The young Constantine Sharvashidze, a scion of the ruling house of Abkhazia, was also believed sympathetic.
http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/images/Georgia/Lang_3.htm
Andrew wrote: “the Soviet period when Jews were “encouraged” (forcefully in some cases) to leave”
You are a compulsive liar, as always. Anybody old enough to remember the 1970s and 1980s, knows that it was the other way around: a major point of hostilities between USSR and the West was the Soviet refusal to allow Jews to emigrate:
Wikipedia:
A large number of Soviet Jews applied for exit visas to leave the Soviet Union, especially in the period following the 1967 Six-Day War. While some were allowed to leave, many were refused permission to emigrate, either immediately or after their cases would languish for years in the OVIR. A leading proponent and spokesman of the refusenik movement during the 1970s was Natan Sharansky. Sharansky’s involvement with the Moscow Helsinki Monitoring Group helped to establish the struggle for emigration rights within the greater context of the human rights movement in the USSR. His arrest on charges of espionage and treason, and subsequent trial contributed to international support for the refusenik cause.
Nativ lobbyed governments to promote greater emigration freedom in the USSR with the phrase “Let My People Go”. While its Soviet operations were stymied, the Refusenik movement began, bringing greater international attention to the Soviet emigration issue. Nativ assisted the movement by directly by materially supporting the refuseniks and fostering refusenik organizations. In the mid 1970s international pressure forced the Soviet Union to allow greater emigration, and the number of Soviet Jews leaving for Israel increased dramatically.
Andrew,
But you have pasted only Chapter 1. That took no more than 1000 lines on this blog. Why couldn’t you cut-and-pasted the whole book here? Your hands got tired of cut-and-pasting? Not smart enough to paste an entire book here?
This is far from your all-time record, which, as I recall, was 1500 lines. Try to do better next time, genius.
Now RTR, what do you have to say to Dima?
I suggest you move back to Russia, and enjoy Russians “love of Jews” first hand.
You really are a pathetic waste of space.
By the way, visit Moscow in May, and see all the posters of the great Russian Hero Stalin, defender of the great Russian Motherland!!!!!!
Funny –
LR’s reasonable question – What does the murder of Moscow judge Eduard Chuvashov tell the world about Vladimir Putin’s Russia? – lead several Russia’s advocates to curse the Jews and the theft of Russian treasures in the form of privatization.
I think that the answer to LR’s question is that once Chuvashovs (and Politkovskaya, and Fr. Men, and thousands others) are murdered – “dimas” come to power. The result, unfortunately, is obvious! The central question of his existence is “Why have Jews been evicted or expelled from almost every country in human history”
Keep pondering, dima! It helps!
You still haven’t answer my question.
How about at least try to attempt to answer it?
Come on RTR, are you going to argue with “dima”, I thought you said all Russians love Jews?
dima,
if it isn’t obvious – I am not interested in a dialogue with you. I am sure you know the biblical expression метать бисер перед свиньями…
You’re not interested in a dialogue with me because you are unable to answer the question honestly.
To paraphrase great classic – Бей жидов, кричал дима, вызывая сионистов на диспут.
My apologies to English readers – the meaning will be completely lost in translation
I dare you to answer my original question which I posed:
“Why have Jews been evicted or expelled from almost every country in human history?”
If you want to invoke the spectre of the KIKE then go to occupied Palestine and see for yourself the chosen KIKE performing his deeds.
Andrew –
Priceless! I watch with amusement how RTR carefully avoids dima’s gutter. Not the he disagrees, of course not…
RTR avoids my arguments for obvious reasons: he is Jewish, and incidentally, so am I.
Do you think that all Russian Jews such as myself blindingly follow Zionist diktat and the Jewish establishment?
Oh another self hating Russian Jew, how priceless…
Come on Dima, pull the other one it’s got bells on.
I imagine you are an accomplished tugger…..
To the philosemite, any Jew who condemns the crimes of his own people is instantly branded a self-hating Jew.
Dima, it would be much better if you condemned the crimes of your real people.
Russia
More than enough real crimes there to keep you going for a while.
The enslavement of eastern europe, the ruthless slaughter of innocents from 1917-1991, 1956 Hungary, 1968 Czechoslovakia, the murder and ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia and South Ossetia 1991-94, murder and ethnic cleansing of Moldovians from Transdenistr, ethnic cleansing of Azeri from Nagorno Karabakh. The supply of weapons to internationally banned terror groups such as Hamas, Hizbollah, FARC, Shining Path, IRA, ETA, etc etc etc.
Andrew, unfortunately, Soviet history is full with murderous Jews. Yakov Yurovsky, Kaganovich, Yagoda are just the beginning. Obviously, they are monsters, while dima is just an idiot.
Still, the murderers don’t get a pass from me just because they were Jews, and neither do crazies.
Well, I would call him a “monstrous idiot” but yes, one must agree Felix.
Nice to see you back by the way.
not enough time… especially when the level of Russophile arguments didn’t really change much. It’s good for the entertainment value; but you can take it only for so long!
By the way, I would be very skeptical of dima being a Jew. Not because of his position, but because all of self-loathing Jews are much more intellectual. You really need to be like Chomsky or Finkelstein to accept utterly counter-intuitive argument.
dima comes across a run of the mill thug from Nashi; not Ward Churchill / Bill Ayers type of intellectual godfather
Couldn’t agree more regards Dima.
Actually the same goes for RTR, he just ain’t right, in the head…..
You’re not able to disprove my arguments, only to label me as “Nashi” or group me with well-known and widely-read authors like Chomsky and Finkelstein — who actually only write the truth regarding Israeli crimes in Palestine.
It is difficult for many Jews to criticize their own institutions and despicable practices.
I’m not one of them!
Again, labeling me a self-loathing Jew is not going to cut it.
That is a tried and true technique of the Jewish establishment to label anyone as “self-loathing” or “self-hating” if they try to criticize or condemn the crimes of Israel, for example, or of the crimes of shylocks, like Bernard Madoff, for example.
I’m very glad that you are finally admitting that Jews have also been mass murderers in history.
Now try to apply the same standard to the leaders and statesmen of Israel, who are just as guilty of being Jewish murderers.
One example of Jewish murder I have cited is the Qana massacres (1996 and 2006), which you cynically mock on your website.
I noticed on your website you have a photo of a Lebanese man carrying away the lifeless body of a killed child in the Qana massacre committed by the Israelis, and the photo is superimposed to look like it is a scene being filmed for a Hollywood movie.
That is probably the crudest and most cynical representation of human suffering one can imagine, reminiscent of Nazi cartoons.
If you want to know why antisemitism still exists in this world, you are the perfect example.
And that was the second wonderful Israeli gift delivered to the same Lebanese village in a short time span.
The first was in 1996 and the second in 2006 — children whose heads were literally blown off.
Again, it is obvious you are a fanatical supporter of the criminal state of Israel.
Felix wrote: “I watch with amusement how RTR carefully avoids dima’s gutter. ”
Of course I do avoid him. I don’t read more than 2 or 3 lines of his posts, just as I don’t read more than 4 or 5 lines of Andrew’s posts (who has the time?).
Dima is the same guy that comes here every couple of weeks with exactly the same anti-semitic accusations and the same claim that he himself is “a Jew”. Only retards would repeatedly argue the same points with exactly the same guy just because he uses a different alias each time. That’s why only you and Andrew are arguing with him. You three are hardly the brightest bulbs in the already dim garland in this blog, Felix.
BrickHouse // March 14, 2010 at 7:46 am
Not really, I’m Jewish myself. (no kidding!) It’s just that I don’t follow the tendency of Jew-worship as prevalent in the US.
owl281 // April 9, 2010 at 5:42 am
I’m a Russian Jew myself, and I posted an anti-Semitic poem in Russian written by the same racist author, to satirize my own people.
Felix continued: “Not the he disagrees, of course not…”
That’s called petty demagoguery, Felix. “Guilt by silence”. You accuse me of agreeing with somebody just because I choose not to waste my time even to read his drivel any more. Your demagoguery teachers back in the Soviet Union have taught a lot, I see. Or did you learn these techniques under the Republican tutelage here in USA?
RTR:
1. I don’t argue with dima. I know I pledged not to argue with you as well; this is going to be my only exception.
2. Guilt is not by silence; guilt is by the fact that you make pretty much the same points as dima does. Only compared to dima’s they look more intelligent.
But Internet is a free place; and this blog is quite open to show the world dima, you, as well as Andrew and myself. “The world” can decide for themselves. In my world, dima is crazy scum; and you are just crazy. But I am not hell-bent on convincing you in it.
You still haven’t replied to any of my points.
You are unable to even attempt to reply to my points.
If you consider me crazy scum, then you are nothing but mass-murder-loving scum, evident by your posting on your website of the mocking of the Qana massacre, and the superimposing of the peace sign with the B-52, which makes you a double admirer of mass murder.
Scum like you is what makes the world hate the US and Israel.
I can’t say what the murder of Chuvashov tells the world about Russia but I can say what it tells me about it:
In a nutshell; in the past fifteen years, since the 1990’s Russia’s been more or less successful at overhauling its facade, at least that part of it that faces inward and is supposed to be viewed by the Russians from within. And yet at the same time it’s still underneath this new facade it still remains the same old Russia where the wrong people just get whacked or rot in jail on false charges.
Just a few notes about Putin. Putin is not the cause of all this, he’s just a symptom, in fact anybody could be in his place and the result would be the same. I wouldn’t just go pinning all the blame on Putin. It’s like when I was reading Politkovskaya’s ‘Putin’s Russia’, it’s not Putin’s Russia it’s our Russia. Putin didn’t pull the trigger of the gun that killed Chuvashov, it’s just the way people do business here. People in general tend to be callous and uncaring here.
igor,
You are making a great point – Putin is not the cause of all this, he’s just a symptom. If I may, I would like to put it as a question instead: Is Putin the cause of all this, or he’s just a symptom?
I am sure you know that Russian liberal sites (grani, ej) ponder this question constantly. Intelligent people can disagree on this. But if your conclusion is that Russia deserves the government that it has – my genuine question to you, why are you still there (I assume that you live in Russia)?
You have excellent English; your IT background will get you a job fairly easily – so you must have a reason to be there, right? I differ with you about Catholicism, but that alone shouldn’t stop you :)
Again, I am not sarcastic – I am genuinely curious
Also, consider for a moment: why are there only 12-14 million Jews in the world, but 2.5 billion Christians?
What makes Jews and Judaism so unpopular in the human world?
Ain’t nobody here to answer you other than another anti-Semite here , RTS; he may want to converse with you. You stink to high heaven, and so the rest of us don’t want to touch you with a 10 foot pole.
You probably have to go to the website of the Klan or it’s Russian equivalent, if you want your question answered. Even RTR avoids you according to his own statement.
It’s a fair question, and you also are not able to answer it, for some reason.
RV,
it’s funny to watch dima going nuts being ignored. This was described in classical Russian novel: “There is no God”, Ostap was screaming inviting clerics to a discussion. Khruschev’s we will bury you and Putin’s nuclear negotiations show the genius of Ilf & Petrov. dima is just a strident follower of Soviet doctrinaires. They cherish hate (only strong are hated) but can’t stand the fact that Russia is in the same league as Myanmar, Somali and Zimbabwe.
Go, dima, go! You bring joy to the russophobe community!
I think you’re referring to Israel being in the same league as Myanmar, Somalia (not Somali, Mr. Genius), and Zimbabwe.
A nation that would literally collapse and be flushed down the drain tomorrow if the flow of US taxpayer-funded aid stopped.
Also according to a retired CIA officer, Israel has about ten or twenty years left, and will be overtaken by a large Arab majority — so party hearty felix!
Also, it doesn’t surprise me that you are Russophobe.
Jews have always hated Russia and Russians — and always are seeking its demise.
By the way, you still have not been able to answer any of my questions, simply because you are a coward, and it’s fairly obvious by looking at your photos that you are a smug prick.
Felix wrote to Dima on numerous occasions: “Go, dima, go! You bring joy to the russophobe community!
dima,
if it isn’t obvious – I am not interested in a dialogue with you. I am sure you know the biblical expression метать бисер перед свиньями…To paraphrase great classic – Бей жидов, кричал дима, вызывая сионистов на диспут.
”
And he also wrote: “I don’t argue with dima.
That’s true. You don’t argue with anybody here. You are incapable of analytical thought needed for successful argument. All you do is heave cheap and empty insults.
RTR,
Bratishka, please don’t hold any grudge against me.
I’m really a Russian Jew, only the rare kind that criticizes his own people for their flaws and crimes.
It’s done out of love, and not out of hate.
— dima
Dima,
It makes no difference to me if you are Jewish or Christian or Muslim. What matters is that your accusations against Jews are misleading and childish. In fact, treating Jews not as part of the Russian society – some good, some bad, some poor, some rich – but as a separate entity is xenophobic.
If you want to be productive here – forget your preoccupation with Jews and start posting without mentioning Jews all the time. Nobody really cares about your views on Jews. We’ve heard all this crap many times before.
I really appreciate your work! I’ll be sure to bookmark this blog, I will definitely return someday. You could be able to survive a Zombie apocalypse. I am just in absolute shock by what I am witnessing on this website.