Mother Russia still Loves her some Stalin

Russia scribe Jonas Bernstein, writing on Voice of America (Paul Goble has more on the same topic, reading Russian sources):

Sunday, August 23, marks the 70th anniversary of the so-called Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact – the non-aggression treaty signed in 1939 by Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov and German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop. The pact included a secret protocol dividing Eastern and Central Europe into Nazi and Soviet spheres of influence. Days after it was signed, first German and then Soviet forces invaded Poland.

The anniversary’s approach has sparked a debate in Europe. Western governments condemn Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin as two equally murderous variants of totalitarianism. The Russian government calls that comparison a “distortion” of history.

On August 17, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service issued a statement saying it had declassified documents showing that the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was the Soviet Union’s “only available means of self-defense.”

The spy agency’s demarche was just the latest in a series of Russian government statements that critics say appear to defend Soviet dictator Josef Stalin and justify actions he took shortly before and during World War II.

In early May, Russian Emergency Situations Minister Sergei Shoigu introduced legislation in parliament that would make it a crime to deny the Soviet victory in World War II.

Later in May, President Dmitri Medvedev issued a decree setting up a presidential commission to counter what he called attempts to “falsify history.”

At a meeting in early July, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe passed a resolution designating August 23 – the anniversary of the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact – as a day of remembrance for the victims of both Stalinism and Nazism.

Russian delegates to the European security body walked out of the meeting, in protest. Russia’s Foreign Ministry denounced the OSCE resolution as “an attempt to distort history with political goals,” while Russia’s parliament called it a “direct insult to the memory of millions” of Soviet soldiers who, in the words of the parliament, “gave their lives for the freedom of Europe from the fascist yoke.”

Former independent Russian parliament Deputy Vladimir Ryzhkov says what he calls the “official” Russian position on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is “extremely strange.”  

Ryzhkov asks why today’s Russia, which has a democratic constitution and new democratic legitimacy, should justify the division of Europe between Hitler and Stalin.

He says that this view is now included in Russian history text books and has caused “enormous moral damage” to Russia’s reputation, particularly in the countries of Eastern Europe that were the main victims of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.  Ryzhkov says the only explanation for the Russian leadership’s position on the issue is what he calls “sympathy for Stalin.”

Public opinion surveys suggest many ordinary Russians share at least some of their government’s views.

A poll conducted by the state-run VTsIOM agency, following the OSCE resolution condemning Stalinism and Nazism, found that 53 percent of the respondents across Russia viewed it negatively, while 11 percent viewed it positively and 21 percent viewed it neutrally. In addition, 59 percent of those polled said the resolution was aimed at undermining Russia’s authority in the world and diminishing its contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany.  

Dmitry Furman of the Russian Academy of Science’s Institute of Europe calls the presidential commission to counter what it deems historical falsification an “idiotic undertaking” and a “very bad idea.” He also says Stalin’s government killed as many, or even more people than Hitler’s.

But, given the suffering Russians endured after Hitler turned on Stalin and invaded the Soviet Union, Furman says it is natural that many resist equating Stalinism and Nazism.

Furman says it is “very difficult psychologically” for Russians to put what they see as their “victors” in the Great Patriotic War, as they call World War II, on the same level with the vanquished Nazis.

35 responses to “Mother Russia still Loves her some Stalin

  1. Furman says it is “very difficult psychologically” for Russians to put what they see as their “victors” in the Great Patriotic War, as they call World War II, on the same level with the vanquished Nazis.

    In the parlance of clinical psych practitioners, Russians are clinical zeros. Those that won’t examine their dysfunctional past gain no insights and stay mentally unhealthy.

    Maybe Dr. Phil needs to bring his show there and hold babushka’s and Ivan Sixpack’s hand and walk them through the process.

    The more I think about it, what a totally gutless and immoral older generation. They know better as few extended families didn’t have an arrest or not know of one. The legacy they are leaving with their collective silence about Stalin is one of moral depravity. No wonder their kids and grandkids are such superficial indifferent materialistic slobs.

    There are decent Russians that wish their society healed itself and became a civil society, sadly, they aren’t in the majority as evidenced by Putin’s popularity.

    • That’s precisely why Penny that they worship Putin — Stalin and what he stood for remain at the core and foundation of the Russian collective psyche, and who better embodies that today than Putin? (Albeit, admittedly in a different package)

  2. Comments by molotov’s grandson:

    MOSCOW (AP) — Seventy years ago Sunday, the Soviet Union signed a pact with Nazi Germany that gave dictator Josef Stalin a free hand to take over part of Poland and the Baltic states on the eve of World War II.

    Most of the world now condemns the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, but Russia has mounted a new defense of the 1939 treaty as it seeks to restore some of its now-lost sphere of influence.

    “This is all being rehabilitated because this is now a very lively issue for Russia,” said military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer. “This is not about history at all.”

    The pact, formally a treaty of nonaggression, was signed Aug. 23, 1939, in Moscow by Vyacheslav Molotov and Joachim von Ribbentrop, the foreign ministers of the two countries.

    In addition to the pledge of nonaggression, the treaty included secret protocols that divided eastern Europe into German and Soviet spheres of influence.

    On Sept. 1, Germany invaded Poland — thus igniting World War II — and within weeks the Red Army had marched in from the east. After claiming its part of Poland, the Soviet Union then annexed part of Finland, the Baltic states and the Romanian region that is now Moldova.

    Molotov’s grandson and namesake, Vyacheslav Nikonov, said his grandfather saw a deal with Nazi Germany as the only alternative after a failure to reach a military agreement with Britain and France.

    The Soviet government was convinced that a Nazi attack on Poland was imminent and “we needed to know where the Germans were going to stop,” Nikonov said. The pact also bought needed time for the country to prepare for war, he said.

    He said his grandfather later criticized aspects of Stalin’s leadership, including the purges, but he stood by the pact for the rest of his life.

    “He said there were many, many mistakes done by the Soviet leadership, he regrets many lives,” said Nikonov, who was 30 when his grandfather died in 1986 and knew him well. “Molotov never considered Molotov-Ribbentrop as something he would regret.”

    The Soviet Union officially denied the existence of the secret protocols for decades. They were only formally acknowledged and denounced in 1989.

    But as the 70th anniversary of the treaty has approached, some Russian historians have stepped up to vociferously defend the Soviet Union’s decision to expand its territory at the expense of its neighbors.

    The Foreign Intelligence Service, once part of the KGB, published a book of declassified intelligence reports in an effort to make the case that the nonaggression treaty and its secret protocols were justified and essential to the victory over the Nazis.

    Retired Maj. Gen. Lev Sotskov, who compiled the book, said the pact allowed the Soviet Union to “move its borders with Germany” to the West. This prevented the Baltic states of Lithuanian, Latvia and Estonia of becoming a staging ground for an attack, he told journalists.

    Even so, when Nazi Germany did attack in June 1941, all the territory the Soviet Union had gained was lost in a matter of weeks.

    At the end of the war, however, U.S. and British leaders accepted the borders of the Soviet Union as defined by the treaty with Germany. This in effect restored the borders of the Russian Empire.

    The Allied leaders also allowed Stalin to extend the Soviet Union’s sphere of influence throughout much of eastern and central Europe.

    The current attempt to justify the carving up of Europe during World War II comes as Russia once again is trying to establish its sphere of influence.

    After last year’s conflict with Georgia, a U.S. ally, President Dmitry Medvedev asserted Russia’s right to intervene militarily in what it regards as its zone of “privileged interests” along its borders.

    The war stripped Georgia of pieces of its territory, which are now under the control of Russian-backed separatists.

    “In his understanding of Realpolitik, Vladimir Putin does not diverge from the line set by Josef Stalin,” military analyst Alexander Golts wrote in the online Yezhednevny Zhurnal. “Military force decides everything and if there is an opportunity to grab a piece of someone else’s territory then it should be taken.”

    Moscow has insisted it should have a dominating influence over countries that were once part of the Soviet Union. But Washington has continued to encourage the NATO ambitions of Georgia and Ukraine, and has made clear that it will accept no claims of a Russian sphere of influence over former Soviet republics that are now sovereign states.

    Russians’ defense of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact also is being used to bolster the Kremlin’s push for the creation of a new collective security system to replace NATO, embracing all of Europe, the United States and Canada.

    Sotskov said the Soviet Union had to sign the 1939 treaty with Germany because efforts to create “a system of collective security” with Britain, France, Poland and the Baltic states had failed. The Soviet leadership believed the West was hoping to turn Adolf Hitler’s armies east against Russia.

    http://www.kyivpost.com/world/47333

  3. The problem is that Russia is like a pimple faced teenage brat.

    “we never did anything wrong”
    “we are the greatest (insert nation, empire, whatever load of crap – say Eurovision host etc) in history”
    “our imperial subjects are ungrateful for all we did for them”

    The usual sort of drivel you would expect from a stupid self obsessed teenager.

    Unfortunately Russians in general have no understanding of what it means to be an adult, by this I mean taking responsibility for your mistakes, and learning from them.

    Russians are incapable, probably culturaly, of this important part of human development. Therefore we can only expect them to continue on the same destructive (luckily for the rest of us it will be their self destructive” path that they have always done.

    Russians do not want to be a modern society, run by rule of law, with human rights and democracy, they want to wallow in the filth that is their “culture”, this would not be so bad except that they insist, in a selfish and animalistic fashion, of dragging others down with them.

  4. Molotov-Ribbentrop: In Eastern Europe, Pact’s Bitter Legacy Remains

    August 21, 2009
    By Brian Whitmore
    Valentins Trojans remembers the marauding bands of Red Army soldiers going from farmhouse to farmhouse in his rural Latvia, looting watches, shoes, and clothing.

    Harijs Ruks recalls being interrogated by a sadistic Soviet officer who kicked him brutally with steel-toed boots.

    And Elza Burkite recollects how occupying Russian forces seized a young mother, whose son had vanished into the Latvian forests to join up with anti-Soviet partisans.

    “Do you know what they did to that mother? They tied ropes around her arms and lit them. They burned her, tortured her in many ways to force her to talk. But the mother said, ‘I don’t know.’ And she lost her mind,” Burkite said in an oral history provided to RFE/RL by the Museum of the Occupation of Latvia.

    “She had a black overcoat of some sort; they didn’t have much to wear, just what they had on when they were seized. And the mother — they were serving breakfast and she threw the overcoat onto the guard. They took her out and shot her. That’s how they behaved.”

    Such bitter memories take on fresh significance this week, as Europe marks the 70th anniversary of the secret pact between Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler to divide the continent between them on the eve of World War II.

    The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, named for Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov and his German counterpart Joachim von Ribbentrop, was signed on August 23, 1939 in Moscow.

    Formally a nonaggression pact, the agreement also included a secret protocol dividing Northern and Eastern Europe into German and Soviet “spheres of influence.”

    The deal resulted in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, and Romania’s Bessarabia region — which is today Moldova — suffering brutal occupations under both the Soviets and the Nazis.

    It also led to much of the region being forcefully incorporated into the Soviet Union after the war. (A sixth country claimed in the protocol, Finland, rebuffed a Soviet invasion but lost its eastern region of Karelia to the USSR.)

    ‘Incomprehensible and Terrifying’

    Valters Nollendorfs, the deputy director of the Latvian occupation museum and a professor emeritus at the University of Wisconsin, says these small countries, sandwiched between two of the 20th century’s most nefarious regimes, had two enemies and no place to turn.

    “We were stuck in the middle. One thing that we could not fight for was Latvian independence,” Nollendorfs told RFE/RL in a recent interview.

    “The only time when the Latvians could fight [for themselves] was in the partisan war after [World War II] ended. And actually, into the 1950s, there was partisan activity in the Latvian forests.”

    Seventy years later, Poland and the Baltic countries are independent states and members of the European Union. Moldova, while independent, continues to struggle as Europe’s poorest country.

    But a resurgent Russia has sparked fears of new “spheres of influence” — with the Molotov-Ribbentrop anniversary emphasizing the acute anxiety these small nations feel about their fates falling prey to great powers with a hostile agenda.

    The pact resulted in massive forced population movements as Soviet authorities deported hundreds of thousands of people from the Baltic states, Poland, and Moldova to Siberian labor camps.

    Ethnic Russians later poured into these countries, dramatically altering their ethnic makeup and laying the ground for bitter disputes that continue to this day.

    Indeed, many of the thorny ethnic problems that have plagued Eastern Europe since the 1991 Soviet breakup can be traced directly to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, including tensions involving Russian minorities in the Baltic states and between Romanian- and Russian-speakers in Moldova.

    The prominent Moldovan writer, Aureliu Busuioc, was an 11-year-old boy when Soviet troops in June 1940 occupied Romania’s Bessarabia region, which ultimately was joined to the Moldavian Soviet Republic and remains part of what is now Moldova.

    In a recent interview with RFE/RL’s Moldovan Service, Busuioc described the chaotic scene in Chisinau as residents scrambled to escape ahead of the Red Army’s advance.

    “When we approached the town there was pandemonium. People were flocking to the center from all directions. The streets were filled with livestock, carriages, cars filled with baggage,” Busuioc said.

    “Some managed to escape. Some hastily left their homes with barely enough time to throw everything they needed into a suitcase. Some shouted and some cried. Something incomprehensible, and therefore frightening, was happening.”

    Busuioc said Soviet troops entered Chisinau a few days later. He said his mother later told him that “the Bessarabia we knew has become something different.”

    Shifting Borders

    Hitler broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, taking back the territories ceded to Stalin less than two years earlier. During the Nazi occupations that followed, millions of the region’s Jews perished in concentration camps.

    The Soviet Union reoccupied the countries at the end of the war, sparking a fresh wave of reprisals directed against alleged Nazi sympathizers.

    “The person who won from it was Stalin, of course, because he didn’t have to become involved in a war with Britain and France — and he was desperate to avoid war at that point,” says Richard Overy, a professor of history at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom and the author of numerous books on World War II.

    “It also gave him, at last, leverage in Eastern Europe, which he’d not been able to achieve throughout the 1920s and 1930s.”

    After the war, the Soviet Union gained direct control over the Baltic states and Moldova. The Soviet-Polish border was also pushed westward, as much of eastern Poland was incorporated into Soviet Ukraine and Belarus.

    Mykold Lytvyn, director of the Ukrainian-Polish Relations Research Center at the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, notes that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact essentially united the Ukrainian people in a single territory, albeit at great cost.

    We lost property that had been acquired over centuries: companies, shops, cooperatives that had been built by many generations,” Lytvyn told RFE/RL’s Ukrainian Service.

    “Farmers were pulled away from their land; we saw the establishment of communes and collective farms… We began losing civil rights. The fall of 1939 saw the elimination of large [Ukrainian] cultural societies. People were torn from their national roots.”

    On August 23, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania will mark the 70th anniversary of the pact’s signing with a series of events honoring the 1989 Baltic Way, or Baltic Chain, in which an estimated 2 million people formed a human chain across the 600-kilometer stretch linking Tallinn, Riga, and Vilnius.

    That demonstration 20 years ago was considered essential in pressuring Mikheil Gorbachev and Soviet authorities to publicly acknowledge the pact for the first time, on December 24, 1989.

    The countries have also used the anniversary to call attention to mounting concern over Russia’s resurgent influence.

    In an open letter to U.S. President Barack Obama, published in the Polish daily “Gazeta Wyborcza” on July 16, some 22 prominent thinkers and former officials from Eastern Europe called on Washington to pay closer attention to the region as Russia seeks to reassert its authority.

    These is also deep concern over Russia’s close relations with Germany today, especially in the energy sector.

    “Certainly there has been apprehension,” Nollendorfs said.

    “Sometimes in the press you even find editorials and letters to the editor that express the notion that there is a new Hitler-Stalin pact in the making. I think that’s overblown, but you can understand where it is coming from.”

    http://www.rferl.org/content/MolotovRibbentrop_In_Eastern_Europe_Pacts_Bitter_Legacy_Remains/1804556.html

  5. “Those that won’t examine their dysfunctional past gain no insights and stay mentally unhealthy. ”

    Perhaps Russians see what these psychological experiments,designed in order to resolve white guilt and colonialist past, have brought to US and Europe. Complete ethnic and cultural degradation. By 2050 US will belong to Hispanics, and Europe to Muslims. Uber-liberal, socialistic elites that rule US and Europe right now, are not much better.

    As far as asking modern Russians to somehow repent for Stalins’ sins is ridiculous, especially while tying it to the victory of the Russian soldiers. Did the British and French apologize for the Munich treaty? Did US ask forgiveness for turning away Jews? For the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, maybe Dresden? Or how about those western bankers and industrialists who helped Hitler come to power and conducted business with his regime?

    So no thanks Penny, keep doctor Phil in US, there are lot of deranged Prozac eaters who need his help in order to deal with common sense, every day problems.

    • @Did the British and French apologize for the Munich treaty?

      To whom and what for? Hitler and especially Ribbentrop were bent on starting the war in 1938 (they had to do this before the 1940s, for several reasons), they actually had to be convinced to only take the Sudetenland, their causus beli (“brutal persecution of 2 million Germans there”). And it’s quite unlikely it would be a shorter or less bloody war, even if it would be a different one. And don’t forget they allowed Czechoslovakia to be in first place and for the first time (and with this ethnic German territory) while creating the new world order after defeating the Central Powers in WWI.

  6. Unlike the Europeans and Americans Andrew, Russians, as an ethnicity, pardon my language, still got balls. What you call Russian xenophobia and schauvinism is in reality a innate instinct of national preservation. This is what makes the west mad. The west knows that they compromised the future of their children by letting in hordes of third world barbarians. They know what will happen after the “oppressed” take over, if they already haven’t. And then want Russia to go down the same lethal, self-destructing path as they have.

  7. And then we got people like you Andrew, and LR. Who instead of applying their energy to a creation of a Western civilization from Vladivostok to Los Angeles, instead waste it on spewing hate and trying to inflame hostilities between white countries. Shame on you again.

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:</b?

    In the Pacific Ocean? Please don't drink and post, it makes Russians look like a nation of apes.

    • Russia is not a western culture, it is not a civilised culture.

      It is a backward, violent, repressive, and ultimately failing culture.

      In regards to your retarded comment about “creation of a Western civilization from Vladivostok to Los Angeles”

      Well Russians do not want that, nor would they be capable of meeting the necessary cultural norms of western civilisation.

      Never have done, never will.

      • True, I hope the Punishment is just around the corner. The violent regimes should get punished. Vladimir is the first in line!

  8. Hi Gordon,

    A kremlin propagandist changed the subject, with their usual foaming at the mouth.

    This article relates to your above link:

    Kremlin-loyal media make Merkel sing to Medvedev’s tune

    20 August, 19:10 | Yuriy Lukanov, Special to Kyiv Post

    Kremlin-backed media will do anything to promote anti-Ukrainian sentiment, even twist another country’s leader’s statements, writes Yuriy Lukanov.

    Russian media are prepared to make anyone the mouthpiece of Kremlin ideas, even leaders of other nations. Here’s the freshest example. Just the other week, the post-Soviet countries’ media reported sensational news that German Chancellor Angela Merkel made a statement about Nazism in Ukraine.

    This supposedly happened during her joint press conference with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. ITAR-TASS news agency ran a news item with a characteristic headline: “Merkel promised Medvedev to fight heroization of Nazism in Ukraine.”

    The purpose of Merkel’s visit to Russia was energy. But that particular news item sounded as if she had forgotten the main purpose of her meeting, realized that Nazism is on the rise in Ukraine and she would rather wage a war against it than solve Germany’s gas problems. Moreover, the leader of the German state looked like a background vocalist for Medvedev, who devoted his indignant speech to condemn Ukraine’s President Victor Yushchenko and his policies.

    I made an attempt to find a similar news item in English-language mass media, and found no mention of it. So, do they fail to realize in the West that the renewal of Nazism can cause a lot of harm to their civilization? Or, perhaps, Merkel said nothing at all? It turned out that she had said something, but not on her own initiative, but responding to a Russian journalist’s question. The Russian media, by the way, failed to report this detail.

    The word “Ukraine” she only mentioned when she reminded the journalist about his question: “As far as your question goes about heroization of Nazism in Ukraine…” Her answer was very generic. Here is a quote from the Voice of Russia: “Germany has denounced National Socialism and remembers it. Wherever counter-trends may emerge, wherever attempts could be made to picture [Nazism] as an (important) phenomenon, Germany would counter this with resolve.”

    So where is the basis for the conclusion that this phrase is applied to Ukraine and worthy of a separate news item?

    Obviously, it would be naive to expect that Merkel, during her visit to Russia, would stand up for Ukraine. She came there not to whiten Kyiv’s image, but to solve her own problems. But there was no reason to expect that her generic phrase would be used as a weapon in the ongoing information war between Ukraine and Russia. Any leader of any European state, being in her shoes, would answer in the same way. Moreover, even Ukrainian leaders would say they do not allow heroization of Nazism.

    To be fair, Ukrainian journalists recently tried to spin Merkel’s words to make it seem she said something that she had not. Last year, after the Georgian-Russian war, the Ukrainian media reported that Merkel wanted Ukraine accepted into NATO soon. In reality, she said nothing of the kind.

    Then “dollgate” happened to Ukraine. Some very respectable media, like the British BBC and German Deutsche Welle, as well as British newspapers Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail, published reports that pro-Hitler moods are on the rise in Ukraine.

    They reported plans of mass production of Hitler dolls and future mass production of models of concentration camps. The basis for this was a report by Kremlin’s mouthpiece, the First Channel in Russia, which said the Hitler doll was a top seller. It turned out the Russian reporter lied a bit. He found an odd shop where a big Hitler doll made in Taiwan was on sale for $200, and reported it was the top of sales.

    But a price tag like that would be impossible for most Ukrainian consumers. Only rich and eccentric collectors of historical figures can pay a price like that, but not regular parents of regular kids. Moreover, artifacts of this kind can be bought in many countries. And nobody will suggest that Nazi moods are on the rise in them. As far as concentration camp models go, these must have been products of a sick imagination.

    Nevertheless, these ravings made it to the Western media. A Ukrainian lawyer from the Kharkiv rights protection group, Halya Koinash, and journalists started protesting, demanding disclaimers. Both BBC and Deutsche Welle apologized. The latter even published information that the news item about the Hitler doll had unverified facts.

    In Ukraine, worrisome tendencies exist. But the Russian media tend to exaggerate them and present them as dominant in society. Reports like that prompt Russians to call their relatives living in Ukraine and suggest that they move back to Russia. They are not alone in Russia in thinking that Ukraine has bloody nationalists running loose, hunting down innocent Russian victims.

    http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op_ed/47250

  9. The sad thing about this is that when Russians accuse Ukraine of glorifying Nazis, what they are talking about is the glorification of those who faught for Ukrainian independence against both Russians and Nazis. In this they have a lot of sympathetic stooges in the west.
    Ukraine must stick to its guns on the issue of Ukrainian history. I think there is a good chance of this after the next election there, but I just am not sure as to where Yanukovich, if elected, would go. After all, he can’t ignore the Ukrainians of Ukraine.
    Any thoughts?

    • Dear Gordon,

      The kremlin propagandists call Ukrainians and Americans Nazis, because they want moscow to look “greater”. Also, this is the kremlin’s way of creating a “false flag”. If they can convince the delusional useful idiots that Ukrainians are Nazi, then the world will “glorify” moscow for saving them, after the kremlin invades and occupies and rapes Ukraine again. Look what they did to Georgia last year. Georgia was a “test run”. The uncivilized barbarians in the kremlin knew that if they invaded Ukraine last year, that they would lose, and the territory subjected to the malicious control of moscow would recede back to the territory of muscovy, as it was centuries ago. They need more time to play their anti-Ukraine PSYWAR.

      During his speech at an expanded session of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), which was held on 29 January 2009, the president of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, revealed an FSB special operation in a few brief sentences: “An unstable sociopolitical situation persisted in a number of neighboring states, there were continued attempts to enlarge NATO, including by means of granting Georgia and Ukraine accelerated membership in the alliance.

      Naturally, all this required precise and well coordinated work on the part of all special security, defense, and law enforcement structures, and quite a high level of coordination of their activities. I must say straight away that on the whole the Federal Security Service successfully carried out all its tasks.”

      The Russian special services continue to carry out special operations aimed at undermining Ukraine’s sovereignty and independence. The members of the FSB and Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service were rewarded for their success in isolating Ukraine. In recent months, the number of personnel in the FSB structures that deal with Ukraine has increased by 1.5 times, and this increase is reminiscent of the 1950s, when the underground Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) was active in Ukraine.

      http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/44324

      Think about that – 150% increase in the PSYWAR against Ukraine, in only a few months! And 85% of the KGB budget is designated to the kremlin’s PSYWARS.

      Your statement:

      *After all, he can’t ignore the Ukrainians of Ukraine.*

      is just wishful thinking! The kremlin not only ignored Ukrainians for centuries, the kremlin orchestrated a MEGAGENOCIDE of Ukrainians for centuries. If president Yushchenko did not win in 2004, then yanukovich would have annexed all of Ukraine to moscow. yanukovich did not speak Ukrainian when he was prime minister of Ukraine. During the Orange Revolution, KGB with machine-guns and Ukrainian Police uniforms in hand were waiting outside of Kiev, but the Ukrainian Police Officers in Kiev would not cooperate, and neither did they let them join their ranks, nor would they break the demonstration; just like in the 1950’s in Hungary, when the KGB dressed in Hungarian Police Officers uniforms, and shoot the Hungarian demonstrators.

      The Party of Regions is is headed by an ex-con, who was arrested for rape, robbery, and assault, and spent hard time in prison with other felons [When Lenin came to power, he freed all of the felons that were in prison with him, to support him]. They are supported by the kremlin, and advocate the agenda of the kremlin. Also, it stands to reason that yanukovich is affiliated with the KGB.

      Sincerely,

      LES

      • Les,
        I am fully aware, and fully in agreement of everything you say. On top of all that. witness the bile spewing from the hole of the latest troll FSB apologist to hit this blog “Sergey”. This jerk can’t even acknowledge the existance of Ukrainians as a people, let alone except the fact of Ukraine as a nation. Unbelievably (to us sane people) this exact same hateful chauvanist/facsist attitude was expressed by Putin himself not too long ago at some international meeting in Europe (NATO meeting I think). There is no question in my mind that the highest goal, highest most important policy of the Putin mafia, barely concealed, is the destruction and absorbsion of the Ukrainian nation, and the strangulation and elimination of the Ukrainian language and culture. Indeed this has always been so, and not just for the ruling powers. With this attitude genetically ingrained in the sovok mind, is it so hard to believe that people could surround a country and systematically go from town to town, village to village, house to house, and brutally confiscate every scrap of food, while simultaniously singling out every member of that nations intelligencia, regardless of political stripe, for elimination?
        Ukraine has the biggest uphill battle of any nation in the world, neighboured as it is with a country that claims (unsuccessfully) superpower status and is bent on its destruction.
        The sense I get is that the Ukrainians clearly understand this. As for the Russian minority in Ukraine,for the longest time I was convinced that they would seperate from Ukraine at the drop of a hat. I still think this about Crimea. But over the last few years I have started to believe that, although the Russian east wants to be friends with Russia, they nevertheless don’t want to be governed by Moscow. A couple of years ago I came across a report (sorry, no link) of a Russian Duma delegation that was reporting back to Moscow after a trip to support the Russians of eastern Ukraine (POR) in their struggle against Kiev. The delegates were very dissapointed that all their govt’s work was for nothing, as they found almost no one in the POR that actually wanted the breakup of Ukraine. The Russo-Ukrainians were cultivating the close relationship with Moscow for nothing more than cheap gas and easy passage into Russia.
        Having said that, I agree that Yanykovich is a scoundrel, perhaps a traitor. If he wins, how far could he go to destroy the Ukainian nation and history? He will surely make moves in that direction, probably stopping efforts at Ukrainianisation, probably ignoring Ukrainian history, especially the UPA freedom fighters, and he will probably allow the whole government and army to become infested with FSB (more than it already is). Probably.
        But can it last? I am convinced that, even with a good economy, the majority of the populace will not stand idly by, as they do in Russia. The sh*t will hit the fan.
        Besides, I am certainly not convinced that Yanykovich will win, especially after Medvedev’s recent tirade. Whenever Russia proclaims openly its contemp for Ukraine, its people and its history, it helps kick the Ukrainians out of their legendary apathy.
        As for the other possible leaders of Ukraine, at this point I have no reason to believe they are not Ukrainian patriots.

  10. Lithuania – Remarks by President D.Grybauskaitė at the opening of the exhibition “The Aftermath of Prague Spring and Charter 77 in Latvia/the Baltics”
    Ladies and Gentlemen, Excellencies,

    I have just visited the Museum of Genocide Victims where I saw tragic evidence of our brutal and painful past. I saw the KGB inner prison and the execution chamber and once again I was deeply shocked and saddened.

    Fifteen years ago all of us were horrified and distressed when the remains of the victims executed by the Soviet secret police between 1944 and 1947 were unearthed in the territory of the Tuskulėnai estate. The remains of more than 700 bodies were found here. Most of the victims were executed for their political beliefs and their faith in the ideals of freedom and independence.

    Tuskulėnai is a very symbolic place for this exhibition, particularly these days when we are commemorating the infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that carved up Europe. This pact led to the occupation of the Baltic States and the sovietization of Central and Eastern Europe.

    The moments captured and displayed at this exhibition are both painful and hopeful.

    The events of the Prague Spring, the demands for human rights in Central Europe gave a powerful impetus and brought hope to the Baltic States.

    Thirty years ago, half a hundred of brave men and women from the Baltics signed the Baltic Charter demanding to bring back the freedom of speech. A decade later, the Baltic Way led Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia to freedom and independence.

    Let the courage of resistance fighters, the resolve of dissidents and the unity of the Baltic Way guide our steps forever.

    H.E. Dalia Grybauskaitė, President of the Republic of Lithuania

    http://www.president.lt/en/activities/speeches/remarks_by_president_dalia_grybauskaite_at_the_opening_of_the_exhibition_the_aftermath_of_prague_spring_and_charter_77_in_latviathe_baltics.html

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  12. If you want to read some A grade garbage on the subject just read this, and some of the comments attached to it by some Russian contributors –

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/19/eu-parliament-soviet-nazi-history

    Andrew & Penny. Your posts above, well said.

    I’m of the view that Russians are incurable masochists collectively, as long as they keep that within their own borders (which they don’t as the perenial neighbourhood bully) that’s their choice They seem to have an insatibale desire to remain in their brutalist self-destructive socio-political quagmire.

  13. Here is the historical reality that Russian revisionists and liars still cannot acknowledge, whilst they try to justify and excuse the inexcusable –

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8214391.stm

  14. Veritas, the Guardian and the BBC have a long history as Useful Idiots and apologists to all things Communist and now Russian fascist. Add the despicable NYT’s too. I never bother with their comments as every Russian Putin pilot fish/troll on the their payroll or not lites there. Every western moonbat lefty lites there too.

    Stalin is the perfect metaphor for Russia, a homicidal maniac rehabilitated as an “efficient manager” now. Putin is the perfect manager. Face it, there are cultures that simply pass away because they extract too much human misery on their own and others.

    Arrogant, dying empires are the most difficult to manage into their proper graves.

    Like the Thanksgiving turkey, the poor obtuse Russians sheeple think they are well cared for by their keeper until the axe falls again one day.

    I feel sorry for them, but, as a realist wouldn’t lift a finger to save them.

    I stand by my position that Russians are a scourge on western humanity and too much time is wasted hoping they’ll be less ignorant and more enlightened.

  15. A good article on the willful ingnorance and stupidity of the Russian masses in regards to the horrors done in their name.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/MolotovRibbentrop_70_Years_On_Russians_Loyal_To_Their_Version_Of_Events/1805727.html

    • Hi Andrew,

      The following paragraph, from your link, clearly shows the kremlin’s re-written history:

      Polls reguarly show that close to half of all Russians remain unaware of the secret protocol. In a July survey by the Levada public opinion center, 61 percent of Russians said they did not know that Soviet troops invaded eastern Poland in September 1939.

  16. RIGA, Aug 23 (Reuters) – About 60,000 people took part in a two-day run to mark the 20th anniversary of a 600 km (375 mile) human chain that showed Balts’ wish to regain their independence from the Soviet Union, organisers said on Sunday.

    The run, which began in Estonian capital Tallinn and Lithuanian capital Vilnius on Saturday, ended on Sunday evening in the Latvian capital Riga. Latvian President Valdis Zatlers took part in the final kilometre in the city centre.

    “The most were in Latvia, about 50,000,” said a spokesowman for the Heartbeat for the Baltics run, which was the centrepiece event of the anniversary. “There were about 5,000 in Lithuania and about 7,000 in Estonia.”

    The high Latvian turnout was due to the fact that more of the run took part in day light there, she said.

    The Baltic Way was a peaceful protest in which more than 1 million people linked hands across the three Baltic states.

    It was one of the largest mass demonstrations in the former Soviet Union and one of the key events on the road to the Balts regaining their independence in 1991.

    The date of August 23, 1989, was chosen as the 50th anniversary of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, which the Balts say led to their occupation by the Soviet Union and rule for 50 years.

    http://www.kyivpost.com/world/47379

  17. The end of Communism

    The Baltic Way human chain on Aug. 23, 1989 coincided with the 50th anniversary of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, which had divided the Baltic states into spheres of influence and led to the eventual annexation by the Soviet Union in 1940.

    The participation of 2 million people, in a region whose population is around 7 million, would have been a significant accomplishment even if it hadn’t occurred under the shadow of Soviet control.

    “People are always looking to break records, but what we did, it was not a record attempt,” said Nomeda Marcenaite, who was there in 1989. “It was a spiritual thing, perhaps a spiritual record.”

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4591423,00.html

  18. “We are not opposed to war [between Germany and the Western states] if they have a good fight and weaken each other,” Stalin said in 1939.

    Still an embarrassment

    Alongside the pact itself – signed by German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop and his Russian counterpart, Vyacheslav Molotov – were the secret protocols. For many years afterwards, the Soviet Union denied their existence.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8214391.stm

  19. And many Russians still deny the secret protocols, or attempt to justify their chumming up with Hitler and the Nazi’s.

  20. Will Stalin get his day in court?

    August 23, 5:58 AMLA Eurasian Affairs ExaminerJoe Ribakoff

    In a survey last year, Russians voted Stalin as their third greatest historical figure. Under Russia’s new law against falsifying history, Russians who stop to remember the victims of the Nazis and Stalinism on August 23rd may remember these victims next year in a gulag.

    But Stalin’s grandson, Evgeni Jughashvili, is fighting back. Evgeni is the head of Georgia’s reviled and marginalized Communist Party. He has filed a lawsuit against Novaya Gazeta for defamation. He must have a good lawyer because his lawsuit asks for 10 million rubles in damages, but no time in he gulag. A hearing date on the lawsuit is scheduled for next week.

    Stalin had more than his share of stunning court victories. In fact, he was famous for his show trials were innocent people were always found guilty, mostly with the help of a forced confession.

    Stalin is no longer roaming the Kremlin. But, although he is dead, in his afterlife he is still there. He is Putin’s and Medvedev’s role model. And, like Stalinist times, the Moscow judiciary is not always all that independent. For good reason, there is reasonable concern about the outcome of this trial. Like Gogol’s Akaky, although Stalin is dead, his apparition remains with us in his afterlife.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-15391-LA-Eurasian-Affairs-Examiner~y2009m8d23-Will-Stalin-get-his-day-in-court

  21. Remember the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939? The Russians, fearing the Third Reich might attack them, abandoned any pretence at decency and jumped into bed with Hitler, thus buying themselves another couple of years to be totally unprepared when the invasion came.

    A new view has now emerged. Our friends at BBC Monitoring monitored a programme on the Gazprom owned radio station Echo Moskvy. Apparently the Nazi-Soviet pact was all Britain’s fault! Sorry about that.

    Newly declassified files from the Foreign Intelligence Service declare that ‘All the blame for the signing of the treaty,
    which became known as the Molotov- Ribbentrop pact, is put squarely on the British and French governments’.

    Apparently perfidious Albion was behaving in such a reprehensible manner that Joseph felt compelled to treat with Adolf. Perhaps it was a moustache thing. The upside of the pact was that millions of ‘Stalin’s useful idiots’ in Europe realised they’d been had. Communism lost a lot of true believers and the world gained an excellent phrase.

    Upon being told of the new Russian revisionist history a Foreign Office spokesthing said “Blimey! We’re rumbled.
    We never thought that would come out. Lord Halifax must be turning in his grave. Oh well, at least no-one’s found out
    yet that Yuri Gagarin was actually from Coventry and vodka was invented by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Some secrets are still safe.”

    http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:a1faac63-1ac9-4ea0-a472-ed1ff191811e

  22. Amazing how the kremlin propagandists call Ukrainians and Americans and other non-rooshans Nazi. I found an article with a new word wish incorporates the word Nazi.

    COMMUNAZI?‏

    Seventy Years After the Hitler-Stalin Pact
    Austin Bay

    Wednesday, August 26, 2009

    “Communazi” became magazine shorthand for their collaboration, dark slang connecting the two totalitarian ideologies of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany after they ratified the Hitler-Stalin Pact.

    That faux-peace agreement and its secret protocols, signed 70 years ago on Aug. 23, 1939, divided Eastern Europe between the Nazis’ swastika and the communists’ hammer and sickle. The pact shocked Western Europe and the U.S., but Poland, in the land trapped between the armies of National Socialism and Marxist Internationalist Socialism, understood the immediate implications. Poland’s two old enemies, both with territorial and imperial ambitions, were setting the political conditions for war.

    And war came on Aug. 31, 1939, when the Germans faked a Polish attack on a German border outpost, giving Berlin a pretense. The panzers attacked in the early hours of Sept. 1, beginning what Nazi propagandists’ dubbed the Poland Campaign and what contemporary history books call World War II.

    The term “communazi” is illustrative, for both murderous, anti-liberty ideologies demand state control of the economy, culture and media, and both crush individual autonomy. The communists’ clever spin that enthralled Western intellectuals was to “redefine” democratic and liberal terms to camouflage their authoritarian goals. George Orwell called it Newspeak in his classic novel, “1984.” Even the revelations of the summer of 1989, when Eastern Europe began to slip from the Soviet Union’s post-WWII grasp, failed to shake many of the Marxist faithful in the West.

    The Hitler-Stalin Pact did not shake Marxist true believers in 1939, either. After Poland fell, with first Germany claiming territorial spoils, then Russian troops moving in from the east, Western communists kept faith with Moscow.

    Time Magazine wrote on April 15, 1940, the month before the German assault on France, “Active new (France) Premier Paul Reynaud last week ordered Minister of Interior Henri Roy to get ready a decree making any further Communist or Nazi agitation in France punishable by long imprisonment or death. Police said current Red propaganda in France almost exactly duplicates Nazi propaganda urging the Allies to make immediate peace.” The Time article specifically addressed the “communazi” phenomenon.

    The communists, with their Nazi allies, were undermining Western defenses with propaganda and political agitation.

    The cozy collaboration ended when Adolf Hitler launched a sneak attack on Russia in June 1941. The reeling Soviets suddenly became an ally of the West. “Communazi” became banished jargon. The Reds had switched sides again. During the 50 years of Cold War following WWII, however, communists used the same anti-Western and anti-American propaganda tropes Hitler used, with a more pernicious and long-lasting effect.

    Much of al-Qaida’s anti-American propaganda builds on Soviet anti-American agitprop spread throughout the Middle East and developing world by communist cadres. Sexual sensationalism, control of Hollywood and Wall Street by evil capitalists, and cowboy militarism crop up in al-Qaida’s list of American faults and were included in both communist and Nazi anti-American bilge.

    The careful revolutions of 1989 and the subsequent end of the Cold War freed most of Eastern Europe from the Soviet empire, but the “communazi” collaboration in the Hitler-Stalin Pact left a few territorial disputes that still have geostrategic implications.

    Moldova is an example. Based on an understanding of “spheres of influence” hammered out by the Soviet and German foreign ministries, one Hitler-Stalin pact protocol gave a slice of Romania to the Soviet Union. That slice became the Moldovan Soviet Socialist Republic (SSR). Post-Cold War, the SSR became the nation of Moldova.

    Many Moldovans see themselves as ethnically Romanian. However, a separatist, pro-Russian “statelet,” Transdniestr, exists within Moldova, and ethnic Russians living in it are “protected” by Russian troops.

    A majority of Moldovans believe Russia prefers this fractured situation. Through Transdniestr, Moscow extends its “sphere of influence” and can disrupt Moldova and vex Romania. Moscow does not like the fact Romania joined NATO. Moscow routinely accuses Romania of making trouble in Moldova and notes Romania annexed the region from Russia after World War I. Modern Moldova remains in a bind.

  23. I hope all Russophobe readers give this a read, and that La Russophobe reproduces this article in full as an item in its own right –

    ‘We must not forget the real causes of the war’

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/we-must-not-forget-the-real-causes-of-the-war-1778973.html

    It illustrates the contemtible lies Russia has now stooped to peddling in an attempt to smear Poland whilst exhonerating the Soviet Union/Russia for it’s part in the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact and the outbreak of WW2 in Europe.

    A prime example/illustration of neo-Soviet propoganda fed to ignorant Russians (sheeple) with the tacit approval of their government.

    This second article also discusses this issue –

    http://wyborcza.pl/1,86871,6974126,How_We_Became_Hitler_s_Allies.html

    • Dear Veritas,

      Your link muat be for every student of history:

      Nowadays, it is no longer possible to maintain that the Nazi-Soviet pact of 23 August 1939 was a fiction invented by bourgeois-imperialist enemies. Everyone has seen the film clips of Herr Ribbentrop landing in Moscow, and of Stalin smiling broadly as Ribbentrop and Molotov signed up side by side. But it is perfectly possible to resurrect the arguments which Soviet propagandists once kept in reserve for foreign audiences and which present the German-Soviet rapprochement as the work of a peace-loving, time-winning, defensively minded statesman. What is more, there is nothing to stop Kremlin-inspired publicists from casting the blame for the war on unspecified villains, usually Poles, who were allegedly raring to do Hitler’s bidding.

      Last week, two state-controlled Russian TV channels screened a film called Secrets of the Secret Protocols. Contrary to what the title might suggest, its main revelations did not deal with the secret protocols of the Nazi-Soviet pact, but with lesser known machinations behind the Polish-German non-aggression pact of 1934. Alexander Dyukov, who is associated with the film and who has authored a book of questions and answers about pre-war politics, was unable to give journalists hard evidence for his contentions. “We assume,” he said, that the pact of 1934 “contained secret protocols against the USSR”. And he gave an assurance that all would be substantiated in due course. His presentation was not burdened by discussion of the Polish-Soviet pact of 1932 , nor by the very real episode in 1934, when Poland’s Marshal Pilsudski was rebuffed by the French after floating the idea of a preventative war against the Third Reich.

      Revelations, each more shocking than the next, are growing to a crescendo. Russia’s President, Dmitry Medvedev, has formed a commission for historical truth. One of its first members to speak out, Professor Natalia Narochnitskaya, chose last week to reject the well-documented admissions by Presidents Gorbachev and Yeltsin about the Katyn massacres of 1940, when Stalin’s security forces murdered 25,000 Polish officer-prisoners in cold blood. Instead, she threw up a fabricated tale about 100,000 Russian POWs had been murdered by the Poles in 1920. Attack, it appears, is the best form of defence.

  24. Moscow metro refurbished with praise for Stalin

    | Reuters

    MOSCOW, Aug 27 (Reuters) – Moscow unveiled a refurbished metro station this week decorated with an inscription heaping praise on Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, sparking outrage from opposition and human rights groups on Thursday.

    The chandeliered, mosaic-covered vestibule in central Moscow’s Kurskaya station now bears a line from an old version of the Soviet national anthem: “Stalin brought us up to be loyal to the nation, inspired us to labour and great deeds.”

    For the head of human rights group Memorial, Oleg Orlov, the inscription “gives an open and imprudent signal to the full rehabilitation of Stalin”, he was quoted as saying on the kasparov.ru site, run by staunch Kremlin critic Garry Kasparov.

    Though millions of Soviets perished during Stalin’s rule in Gulag labour camps or from famine, the dictator is still revered by many Russians for defeating the Nazis in World War Two.

    http://www.kyivpost.com/world/47643

  25. Les,
    There is a thoughtful article on this topic (in Russian). I am sure either Dave Essel, or RFE will translate it. The point is that Kremlin tries to instill a very simple thought: the state is always right. Whether it was Stalin’s henchmen in the 30s (there is no smoke without fire; they don’t imprison for nothing), or in the 70s (with psychiatry wards), or today (with political murders and oil profits flowing directly into the pockets of Kremlin-friendly oligarchs) – it’s not up to the sheeple to question The State

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