EDITORIAL: Russia is an Oily, Disgusting Mess

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Russia is an Oily, Disgusting Mess

Nyet!

Nyet!

You can read all about one Russian man murdering his wife every 40 minutes, or about Russia not ranking in the top 150 nations of the world for lifespan, or about its stock market losing 80% of its value.  But sometimes information this lethal clouds the mind, and doesn’t allow one to appreciate the true horror of what is going on in Russia.

So let’s use a simpler example. Let’s talk ice cream.

A story last week in the Moscow Times revealed that Russian dairies are lobbying for new legislation that would make it illegal for a manufacturer to use the Russian word for ice cream (“morozhenye“) to refer to a product that contained more than 12% vegetable fat (i.e. trans fat, i.e. shortening, i.e. the stuff in the middle of an Oreo, but frozen) instead of milkfat.

Amazingly, if this measure passes, a whopping 70% — that’s right, seventy percent — of all frozen “treats” currently consumed in Russia will no longer qualify for the “ice cream” designation.  The reason for this is simple, of course:  The collapsing Putin economy means that (delicious) milkfat is far too expensive to be affordable to people who earn less than $3/hour on average, so only cheaper (and very disgusting) vegetable fats are being used to create an affordable substitute.

Now think about this:  If you have only a 30% chance of getting milk in your ice cream in Russia, what chance do you think you have of getting something more, like fresh strawberries or quality coffee or (perish the thought!) whipped cream?

Russia’s ice cream market, the MT says, is worth $1.8 billion — ten times smaller than the U.S. market.  So ice cream, like anything else, is a good indicator of the vast difference in economic power that exists between the U.S. and Russia, and of which Russians remain haughtily oblivious as they provoke the U.S. at every turn, a suicidal endeavor just like the one the USSR engaged in.

Can you imagine what it would be like to live in a country where you had a 70% chance, whenever you bought ice cream, of getting something that was basically the frozen middle of an Oreo?  Not that an Oreo is bad, mind you, in fact in Russia it’s an unheard of luxury item. But we know Oreo, we’ve worked with Oreo, and Oreo is no Ben & Jerry’s.  How’d you like to live in a place where ice cream like that made by those two Vermont nuts, or Hagen Daaz, is an incomprehensible luxury for most people? Where the health risks associated with trans fats were totally unknown, and indeed paled incomparison to a host of other vices, such as alcohol and cigarettes, running rampant?

You wouldn’t like it much, would you?  But you’d probably be inclined, since you’re at least somewhat normal and not totally lacking in fortitude, to want to do something about it. You’d demand better from your government, probably.  You’d go to the polls and vote the rascals out.

And yet Russians don’t do this.  Instead, they act as if they like this hideous backwardness, this deprivation, this neo-Soviet nightmare.

And so it goes in Vladimir Putin’s Russia, not long for this world.

48 responses to “EDITORIAL: Russia is an Oily, Disgusting Mess

  1. They need Monsanto GM experts “to stop them act do with hideous backwardness, that deprivation, this neo-Soviet nightmare.”

    Let the US based Monsanto. Co dominate the Russian food market as they do in Latin America and Africa and the next generations of Russians will have a chance to be as healthy as Mexicans and Camerunians.

    The “neo-Soviet nightmare” on the Russian food market must be stopped at any price in the name of humanity.

    LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:

    What kind of ice cream does Monsanto make? Or are you just trying to change the subject because you can’t handle the actual one? Are you pleased to have Russians continue eating such poor quality food as long as, in your view, Latin Americans are too? If so, why do you hate Russians so much? What did they ever do to you?

    • Wasn”t it Jeffrey Sachs advising Boris Yeltsin, Anatoly Chubais and Yegor Gaidar in the 1990″s?
      United States is not an oligarchy like Russia is.

      • bob, are you asking us or is this something that with a verifiable factual link you could answer for yourself?

        Google is your friend, bob.

  2. rts

    Wonderful!

  3. OK. There’s no oligarchy in the US. Let’s call those guys scoutmasters.

  4. LA RUSSOPHOBE

    I don’t hate Russians I just see through them.
    I don’t hate Americans for that same reason.

    Monsanto mafia is here, there and everywhere making genetically modified idiots without basic knowledge, not knowing what an ice-cream made of.

    • “Monsanto mafia”, oh please, Monsanto is a publically traded multinational company with shareholders. Want to name any publically traded mafia family business listed on the Dow or Nasdaq?

      You talk like a total fool.

      Give it up, if you are Russian you are only making yourself and your countrymen look like idiots.

  5. penny

    Nasdaq boss was arested half a year ago… Check it.

    Enron was “a publically traded multinational company with shareholders” too.

    penny, do you really want me to compile a long list of “publically traded multinational companies and banks with shareholders” which went broke since the last fall?

    “Give it up, if you are whoever you are only making yourself and your countrymen look like idiots.” — Take it as a reply message.

    • rts,

      Please do make that long list of bad companies, then tell us about all those successful Russian companies. You’re like a one legged man in an ass kickin contest.

  6. rts is Tower Bolshevik lite for any curious folks out there.

  7. Communism is a disease of lunacy. I see it like post-traumatic syndrome in the very beggining of recovery of Russia there with its present primitive mentality. Do you really think the Russians love Communism like anything above all and everything? It seems to me that were the Russians that let the bunch of small East-European fry go free in search of their new imperial master without shooting people way back 1990-1992 as it happened in 1956 0r 1968. The same goes for former Soviet republics.

    OK. Do you seriously think that GAZPROM is down and out? If you do, that’s funny.

    • So you don’t count the April 9 massacre of university students in Tbilisi in 1989, or the shhoting of Latvian demonstrators as use of violence?
      How do explain Chechnya, Daghestan, Ingushetia?
      Really you need an education.

  8. Ivory Sayaf

    Didn’t get your message. Might I ask you to be more specific on what you want to say the next time?
    Am I a moron or a Bolshevik lighthouse educating some curious people “out there” in some unidentified place?
    Did you mean positive or negative?
    But if I am a Bolshevik lighthouse – that really sounds great. Never heard anyone called me that way before. Thank you Ivory Sayaf .

  9. Gary Marshall

    Yes RTS,

    Your a Bolshevik lighthouse located on tempestuous and rocky shores drawing in the naive and incautious. But there are not too many takers these days.

    Gary Marshall

  10. Andrew

    Russia soldiers only defended from crowds 09/04/89. They actions were rightful as well as in Latvia. And our actions were just kindness in compare with your actions against Ossetians and Abkhazians in 1990-1993! You make GENOCID and Glenn has shown it for you.
    But if we wanted to safe USSR we coud do it. But we did not need in insolvency nations so Russia dismissed USSR. We said: “build your independency”. But the 20 years later period have shown that some former USSR republics are complitely bankrupts now. And Georgia is in the top of this list. You hate us as the ugly person hate his mirror.

  11. Andrew: “How do explain Chechnya, Daghestan, Ingushetia?”

    And how do YOU explain Panama, Iraq, Afganistan, Grenada, Haity or Kent University shootings by the National Guard in Ohio, Wounded Knee rebellion in Dacotas in 1973 or massive use of force in East Los Angeles way back in 1992?

    But I seemingly have got a vague suspicion you consider these things incomparable.

    • I don’t know how to explain “Haity” or “Dacotas”, frankly.

      And yes, “these things are incomparable” indeed.

      Like the “massive use of force in East Los Angeles way back in 1992” did not include the LA being carpet bombed and turned into the most destroyed city on planet.

  12. rts, you have an uncanny ability to summon up lots of more obscure and trivial pieces of American history than any recent emigre here and certainly not a Russian at home would.

    So, just where again did you say you are from?

  13. How an American can every make the claim that Russia is an evil country, while completely ignoring the blaring evil the USA is spreading throughout the world is beyond me. While Russia has done its share of evil, it pales in comparison to that which America has wrought. Before being highly critical of someone else, it is sometimes healthy to do a little reflection first.

    Again, I am not saying that Russia is guiltless, quite the contrary. Russia has an extensively evil regime running the country that is bent on maintaining power at all costs. But, again, it PALES in comparison to the Bush administration, for example.

    As for the Ice Cream … this is actually a common complaint in Russia, Ukraine and many former Soviet republics. The problem doesn’t just end with Ice Cream, it actually spreads throughout the food market. To drive up profits, and occasionally drive down costs, manufacturors often use less expensive products, such as vegetable fat or tofu.

    • “Again, I am not saying that Russia is guiltless, quite the contrary. Russia has an extensively evil regime running the country that is bent on maintaining power at all costs. But, again, it PALES in comparison to the Bush administration, for example.”

      Explain, please.

      • While I don’t want to become too philosophical on this issue, I feel that government is evil by design. It is absolutely impossible … I repeat, impossible … to have a government that is not evil. Government will, however, give the illusion that it is working for the people. Some governments do a better job than others in displaying this illusion.

        By pointing out the evil on one government while completely ignoring the evil in your own government is, in my opinion, hypocritical. I think it is far more beneficial to point out your own government’s faults, worrying less about foreign governments.

        … or are you looking for a different explanation?

        • Um, let’s see. The Bush administration was for example giving more humanitarian aid to the foreigners than any other government in the world (including of course the Russian). Now trump it with something so “worse than Putin’s”.

        • If you’re an anarchist I’m okay with this, but I asked about “it [the Yeltsin-Putin regime’s conduct in Russia and beyond] PALES in comparison to the Bush administration, for example”.

          • Regarding American ‘gifts’, I am not sure where to begin. While it is true that America gives much aid, this has more to do with PR than anything else. Much of the ‘gifts’ are loaned with interest, and sums are calculated in ways that governments can’t pay back … which, in turn, gives America a pretext to annex land and infuse its conglomerates to ‘help’ the natives.

            As for the Bush administration, either you are joking or you have been simply ignoring the blaring human rights violations that have been going on … not to mention baseless wars, Orwellian national security and lies that make religious leaders envious.

            • No, and in fact I think you are joking. You said it’s worse (and much worse – Russia “PALES in comparison”), so I’m waiting for some actual examples.

              And as of PR, of course they do it so the people would like them. For example: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0228/p12s01-woap.html – or maybe you mean they forget to add “but feel free to continue hating us without reason anyway” info cards to the aid packages or something?

      • In before Stalin killed seventy gazillion people.

  14. bravoo zhann. at last somebody is speaking with a clear mind in this blog. i still can not understand why you people behind la russophobe hate russia so much. you criticise russia’s warts and all but fail to look at your own warts. all i know is that people are dying in iraq and afghanistan while i am typing all because of american foreign policy. not to mention pakistan. is this not evil as well? is it because they are iraqis and afghans that they are less valuable and therefore despensable in the name of some higher goals which upto now is not understandable to me? why is it when america lied to the world about wmd and led to the killing and suffering of uncounted people, it got away with it? come on la russophobe, do not be relative and subjective when pronouncing harsh judgements.

    • “all i know is that people are dying in iraq and afghanistan while i am typing all because of american foreign policy.”

      Seriously, please tell me how the “american foreign policy” is responsible for the Afghan Civil War (non-stop ever since the pro-Soviet military coup in 1978).

    • Oh, and you may tell me about the “not mentioned” Pakistan too.

      • America is notorious for attempting to run the world. What the USA does to the less fortunate is often mind blowing, using Aid and IMF loans. Bush was no different, in fact his policies were substantially worse than the majority of his predecessors.

        Regarding examples, I honestly don’t know where to begin.

        I guess the most blaring example is Iraq. The fact that Iraq has nothing to do with freedom and almost everything to do with control of Oil is accepted by everyone but Bush’s most loyal. The hundreds of thousands of deaths that this war has caused is ridiculous. As for the torture, this is just so heavily discussed it seems redundant to repeat.

        America is responsible for this because it is the root cause. If the US stayed in Afghanistan, rather than attacking Iraq for no logical reason, this situation would have been avoided. However, since Afghanistan doesn’t present the USA with any viable future income, the Bush administration decided to switch focus.

        Regarding the Soviet action against Afghanistan, only the truly blind don’t see that the Soviet Union was right in attacking the Taliban at the time. The USA backed the Taliban, and look what happened? With hindsight, how can you even make a statement like that?

        Closer to heart (Russia), America’s purchase of Ukraine’s president, and America’s role in Georgia’s aggressive actions towards South Ossetia are lightly documented, but difficult to ignore.

        The examples are endless. Here is an interesting link to some of Bush’s more ‘interesting’ works:
        http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

        Lastly … Pakistan? Either you have a twisted sense of humor, or are intentionally ignoring the blaringly obvious.

        • Were you tutored by Nancy Pelosi?

        • “As for the torture, this is just so heavily discussed it seems redundant to repeat.”

          No, I’d really like to hear how on earth the Russian torture “PALES in comparison” to the American one.

          Let’s see, fore example:

          ““Disappearances” in Chechnya are so widespread and systematic that they constitute crimes against humanity; by some estimates between 3,000 and 5,000 have “disappeared” since 1999. In numerous cases their corpses are found in unmarked graves or dumped, but in most instances they are simply never heard from after being taken into custodyHuman Rights Watch and the Memorial Human Rights Center have documented cases when dead bodies were simply dumped by road sides, on hospital grounds or elsewhere. The majority of the bodies showed signs of severe mutilation, including flaying or scalping, broken limbs, severed finger tips and ears, and close range bullet wounds typical of summary executions. Examinations by medical doctors of some of these bodies have revealed that some of the deliberate mutilations were inflicted while the detainees were still alive.”
          http://www.eng.kavkaz-uzel.ru/newstext/engnews/id/804800.html

          Waterboarding? Sheesh.

          “Regarding the Soviet action against Afghanistan, only the truly blind don’t see that the Soviet Union was right in attacking the Taliban at the time.”

          Only truly blind would think the Taliban and the Soviet Union coexisted in any given same time period.

          Like there was no al-Qaeda in Iraq before the coalition forces moved in there, there was no Taliban in Afghanistan before the Soviets… got outta there (and actually several years later).

          Or maybe by “the Taliban” you meant “Hafizullah Amin”.

          “America is responsible for this because it is the root cause. If the US stayed in Afghanistan, rather than attacking Iraq for no logical reason, this situation would have been avoided. However, since Afghanistan doesn’t present the USA with any viable future income, the Bush administration decided to switch focus.”

          What “viable future income” came from Iraq for the Bush administration that there was not in Afghanistan?

  15. robert, the afghan war was caused by the SU which is long dead and buried. yes they are the russians but SU was also georgians, latvians, ukrainians and all the lot. if you wish to condemn SU then condemn all the others and not zeroing just the russians. just because goergians and ukrainians are america’s pet nowadays does not mean they are holier than the others in the union. and lastly, if these hate comments are coming from switzerland then i would shut my mouth but if it is coming from the US then i’d say you are as good as any country in creating wars. all i want to tell is that be fair and square when giving judgement else what is the point.

  16. robert, ok my mistake US is not directly involved in Pakistan but whatever it is doing behind the scenes has resulted in 1 million refugees. who are these taliban anyway? they are fanatical people who hates the US. why do they hate the US? maybe becuase US did something they did and still do not like. see, all arguments lead back to what the US is doing.

  17. It is so unfortunate that Americans exist with the mentality that subsides within this site. Rather than seeking out the truth, you simply propagate hate. You are American fundamentalists, the mirror image of Muslim fundamentalists. Not only do you preach hate, but disinformation. You ignore the obvious while preferring the propaganda that western media preaches. It is highly unlikely that people like you will ever change. The majority of you are religious zealots that have been so brainwashed over the years that you can’t comprehend the truth when it strikes you in the forehead.

    What is most unfortunate is that you will breed (or already have) … instilling your hate into your offspring.

    I have no intention in arguing with the ignorant, it serves no purpose. I only hope that one day you will understand how blind you truly are and begin to move to the light. Thank God that Redneck America doesn’t make the decisions anymore.

    I will part with one word of advice … before being critical of a foreign civilization, be it Russia, Iran, Venezuela or whoever else you hate, take a moment to reflect on your own civilization. There is a reason that America is known throughout the world as the Evil Empire, and is by far the most hated nation.

    • “You ignore the obvious while preferring the propaganda that western media preaches.”

      Yeah. And the “obvious” at meaning ITAR-TASS, Pravda and Russia Today.

  18. “No, thanks Washington – in straight and figurative meaning.”

    Actually, yes. Washington is also to blame, as there was very little American (government and public) interest in Afghanistan between 1989 and 2001. The CIA also let the ISI to dupe them in the 1980s (mitary aid mostly diverted to Hekmatyar’s faction).

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