Remember Olga Ivanova and her brazen lies about civilian fatalities in Ossetia? Bloomberg reports that the even the Kremlin itself now confirms how dishonest and inaccurate she was (but Russia, undeterred, still insists it was “genocide“):
A Russian investigation found that 162 civilians died during an August war with Georgia, not 2,100 as previously announced in Moscow.
Russia invaded U.S.-allied Georgia after the Georgian army tried to take control of South Ossetia, a Russian-backed breakaway region. Russian authorities accused Georgia of “genocide,” reporting in August that 2,100 South Ossetian civilians died from the Georgian military offensive. The civilian death toll now officially stands at 162, state broadcaster Vesti-24 quoted the head of the Prosecutor-General’s investigative committee, Alexander Bastyrkin, as saying today in comments posted on its Web Site.
A criminal investigation is under way on charges of murder on ethnic grounds and genocide and it may widen to include other counts including the use of banned armaments and attacking sites under international protection, state news service RIA Novosti cited Bastyrkin as saying. Russia had 48 soldiers killed, including 10 peacekeepers based in South Ossetia before the conflict, according to Bastyrkin. Georgia has said 215 of its soldiers died in the war.
So, 162 civilians (assuming for a moment that the numbers are correct – and it’s a very generous assumption, since they haven’t been verified by any independent party) killed during the war is genocide.
How does one call 130 victims that died when OMON was freeing hostages in Nord Ost? Collateral damage?
Palestinian propaganda created a term “Paliwood”. Russia doesn’t need to create any new terms. Pravda has 90-year experience in mixing creativity and reality for propaganda purposes. Nothing changed!
The Olga Ivanovna sham is purely the fault of the WaPo, who should surely know better than to trust the journalistic “integrity” of some intern with a vested interest in one of the warring parties. Though, I must say, I seldom cease to be amused at the speed with which Russians accuse the Western (read – “mainly American”) press of all types of bias, as if Western deviation from the various stories told by the Russian State-media circus was somehow proof of anti-Russian sentiment.
This was corrected a few months ago, and for a while it was actually 144, not 162. At any rate, with the Israel strike on Gaza today taking 200+ civilian casualties and no one talking about ‘Disproportionate’ anything, Russia maintains the clear moral high ground.
LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:
You seem to be a mental case. The point is that Russia LIED to the international community about the damage inflicted by the Georgian forces because the actual amount of damage inflicted was MINIMAL. Russia also INFLICTED these very same types of civilian casualties on Georgia, especially in Gori, and Georgian forces never crossed an international boundary, as Russia’s forces did. Russia’s action has been repudiated by every single civilized country on the planet, and its economy has entered freefall since the attack. If you consider that the moral high ground, you must be tripping out on acid. As usual, it’s on the low ground and being rationalized by pathetic hack defenders just like you, the same folks who drove the USSR right into the ground.
There is still a blatant lie in this report.
Russia didn’t invade Georgia as Saakashvili tried to remove the gangster sock-puppet Kokoity, Russia merely invaded Georgia, and Georgia tried to repel this invasion.
“How does one call 130 victims that died when OMON was freeing hostages in Nord Ost?”
It was Alfa (OSNAZ FSB) supported by SOBR (OSNAZ MVD) in Moscow. OMON just (literally) stood around.
Oh, and it was probably many more than 130 dead in Moscow (more than 200?).
The FSB chemist who released the agent that killed them became the Hero of the Russian Federation.
bla bla bla!
What else can we expect from a site named russofob.
Guff.
162 Ossetins killed – is enough? And Zigfeld said only the data that are officially called, who were able to identify the person … and how many victims were buried without identification?
Tskhinval was slightly damaged but not destroyed.
And what it meant by the word destruction? The nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and the destruction of Dresden? You had to be located in Tskhinvali or Hitagurovo, where the stone remained.
I was surprised, as someone who did not even hesitate to its anti-direction, trying to pretend to objectivity.
as long as you have killed people, what would you have recognized it as genocide?
1000? 100000? 1000000?
US-daunito-chromosome!
Understand it and accept, without resentment.
Later I will give links to photos and articles.
That’s how this Larussophobe article was translated on inosmi:
“The civilian death toll now officially stands at 162, state broadcaster Vesti-24 quoted the head of the Prosecutor-General’s investigative committee, Alexander Bastyrkin, as saying today in comments posted on its Web Site.”
TRANSLATION ON INOSMI:
“23 декабря официальное российское расследование установило, что на самом деле грузинские войска(!!!!) убили всего 162 мирных жителя…”
http://www.inosmi.ru/stories/06/06/13/3482/246413.html
GUYS THERE IS NO HOPE FOR RUSSIA! IT WILL ALWAYS BE LIKE THIS… :(
And here is a funny thing: (How one interview is shown on American TV and on RUssian… LOL)
It’s this interview of wich’s Russian version Putin did not like… Little he know… he was watching his own television… LOL
LA RUSSOPHOBE – You are completely right!
But now the only hope for Russia is low prices on Oil. That’s the ONLY way, since I don’t trust Russian people will do anything in the name of Democracy/Freedom/Liberalism/Righteousness’s/… but it does not matter what will make them CHANGE their country they HAVE to CHANGE or they will suffer forever under their own goverment and the rest of the world will have to deal with that crazy aggressive country.
Vincent Jappi –
There is still a blatant lie in this report.
– It is correct in my book.
Russia didn’t invade Georgia as Saakashvili tried to remove the gangster sock-puppet Kokoity,
– No, there was no need. Kokaity has lost any respect of the small part of that population under his control. Saakashvili was building schools, cinemas, shops, hospitals… while Kokoity was just stealing Russian money and killing his enemys in that small city Tskinvali. Russian had their own plans. EU did NOTHING even thou Georgian goverment was asking practicly on it’s nees to send the EU monitors or peacekeepres, but EU did not wanted to deal with Russia… so now you have it. Russian tanks WERE there MONTHS before invasion. NOBODY WAS HIDING THAT! Read more about “KAVKAZ 2008” military exercises that were held few days before that war near Roki tunnel were Russia has invaded from.
Russia flooded the region with criminals from north caucasus and it’s special forces FSB/GRU. They were killing Georgian civillians people DAILY there. Georgian president had to do something right? I mean in the Geographic center of his country just under 50 km from the capital. INSIDE GEORGIAN TERRITORY GERGIAN PEOPLE WERE GETTING KILLED DAILY. I don’t get it when people say he “invaded” something… HOW? That is the center of his own country… HOW CAN ONE INVADE the center of his own country??
James
HOW CAN ONE INVADE the center of his own country??
It’s easy!
As invaded Israel in Palestine?
One is a country!
How ?
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