Former Duma deputy Vladimir Ryzhkov, writing in the Moscow Times:
Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, the man who ended the Cold War and forever ended the threat of a global nuclear holocaust, has a simple answer for those who continue to blame him for the collapse of the Soviet Union and for “giving away” the former Soviet satellite states to the West. “What did I give away?” Gorbachev asks. “I gave Poland to the Poles and Czechoslovakia to the Czechs and Slavs.” And as it turned out, Russia went to the Russians as well.
Gorbachev never tires of reminding people of his political program at the time that the Berlin Wall fell: “We made an agreement [with Western leaders] to build a free Europe, a unified system of security … that would serve the interests of Germans, Russians, Europe and the whole world.” That is the principle value of perestroika, glasnost and Gorbachev’s “new thinking”: Every individual was given the chance to determine his own path. The only problem is that everyone chose different paths and traveled down differing roads over the past two decades.
Now, 20 years after the Berlin Wall fell Nov. 9, 1989, we see how much Europe and Asia have expanded and become stronger, while Russia has declined and continues to lag behind.
From the moment that the Cold War ended, the West started expanding and strengthening its two principal economic, political and security structures — NATO and the European Union. NATO experienced three waves of expansion, adding 12 new states and bringing its total number of members up to 28. The EU also expanded three times, bringing its number of member states to 27 with a combined population of almost 500 million. The number of countries aspiring to join both organizations also increased.
The East has gone through its own period of intense development. It has become an engine of growth for the global economy. China began its unprecedented perestroika even before the Gorbachev era. In 1990, the size of China’s economy ranked No. 11 in terms of gross domestic product, and today it is No. 3. Even during the current crisis, China has maintained a GDP growth rate of about 8 percent. As a whole, Asia took advantage of the end of the Cold War to open its doors to globalization and to become the second-largest economic center in the world after the combined force of the United States and the EU. The other major power in the East, India, has also strengthened both its democracy — the largest in the world — and its economy since the Berlin Wall fell.
In contrast to the successes in the East and West, Russia — the country that did so much to inspire all these changes — has ended up the biggest loser in the post-Cold War era. Twenty years later, the country has experienced a triple defeat. First, Russia has failed to modernize its economy or social sphere. Second, it has not been able to build an effective political system, creating instead a one-man authoritarian regime. Russia has lost its international reputation and its former superpower status, leaving it almost entirely without allies or the support of global public opinion.
The structure of Russia’s economy has significantly worsened over the last 20 years, and it continues to deteriorate. Fully 86 percent of Russia’s exports, constituting up to one-third of the country’s entire GDP, consist of raw materials, while 80 percent of the country’s imports are finished products. By comparison, Soviet-era raw material exports accounted for only 48 percent of GDP. Today, hydrocarbon exports account for up to 70 percent of Russia’s consolidated budget income. More than 70 percent of all shares traded on the Russian stock market are for companies from the raw materials sector.
Moreover, every attempt to create a modern, high-tech economy has ended in failure. The average Russian income remains at almost the same level as it was 20 years ago, while 20 percent of Russians now live below the poverty line. A mere 10 percent of the population earns more than 50 percent of all wealth in the country, and in 2008 the country’s 53 wealthiest Russians owned capital equaling 30 percent of the national GDP. In the World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report, Russia dropped 12 places since last year, down to 63rd of 132 countries. For the first time, Russia fell behind countries such as Turkey, Mexico, Brazil, Indonesia and even Azerbaijan.
Similar declines were seen in recent years in the areas of democracy and human rights. According to Freedom House, Russia moved from being a “free” state in the early 1990s to becoming firmly entrenched on the list of “unfree” states. According to a democracy rating conducted by The Economist magazine, in 2008 Russia found itself at the record-low 108th place among 167 countries. The picture is similarly bleak for ratings of freedom of speech, freedoms of nongovernmental organizations and so on.
This degradation has not been lost on Russia’s neighbors, which are distancing themselves as much as possible from Moscow. Instead, they consider Western institutions to be the better model for development. Only five former Soviet republics have relatively good ties with Russia — Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan — and even they are taking cautious steps backward. The other former Soviet republics have either distanced themselves from Moscow or else broken ranks with Russia completely. The Kremlin is rapidly losing its two major means of influencing others — the “hard power” of economic and military incentives and threats and the “soft power” of attracting partners through its own example, culture and policies.
In short, Moscow is finding itself increasingly isolated from the international community. While the rest of the world is commemorating the 20th-year anniversary of the fall of the Iron Curtain, Russia is left wondering why it has so little to celebrate.







50 responses so far ↓
Howard Roark // November 11, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
As usual, Ryzhkov nails it on Russia. However, he reminded me of something that has been bugging me the last couple of weeks during all the talk of the fall of the Berlin Wall. It seems to me that Gorbachev is getting WAY too much credit for it. I even hear it from sources from whom I wouldn’t have expected it.
Case in point:
“We made an agreement [with Western leaders] to build a free Europe, a unified system of security … that would serve the interests of Germans, Russians, Europe and the whole world.”
Huh? When did that happen? Let’s get things straight, yes, Gorbachev’s reforms helped cause the fall of the Berlin Wall. However, the actual reason why it failed is because Gorbachev tried to tinker with a system that was put together with duct tape and bailing wire. Once he took one card away from the deck of cards, the whole thing collapsed, thus rendering them so weak that they could not prevent the wall from falling. He didn’t let Eastern Europe go, the Soviet Union lost its strength and its intimidation factor and the whole thing was over.
Mixed metaphors aside, I only wish I could get credit for changing the world by screwing up. I’ve read a lot about Gorbachev and he was certainly a hero for pointing out the flaws in the system and for trying to create a “kinder, gentler” authoritarian system. He was just too naive to know that those systemic flaws were the only thing keeping the whole thing together and he lost complete control of it. I truly believe he is an honest, good man. He just happens to be wrong a lot, that’s all.
What felled the Berlin Wall was a combination of the West completely outpacing the East and the East losing its grip on itself. The grass was greener on the other side, the right triggers came into place, and the rest was history.
Robert // November 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm |
Gorbachev was actually a frontman for a reformist wing of the KGB (he was formerly Andropov’s man) who wanted to reform the system because they were losing the Cold War badly and the economy was collapsing.
It was NOT a purely humanitarian/democratic effort, just like it was a case with the de-Stalinization in the 1950s (even Beria as a leader would liberalize the system back then and it was actually him who opened the camps).
Snake Oil Baron // November 11, 2009 at 9:37 pm |
Giving all the credit to Gorbachev helps the media avoid having to credit their archvillains Reagan and JP2. It also divorces the people from any role in rejecting communism; they wouldn’t do that, it was all a management problem. I think Western journalists are more in love with Stalinism than Putin if that is possible.
RV // November 12, 2009 at 1:34 am |
I think that it all happened really because of Gorbachev. You mentioned that it diminishes the people’s role in rejecting Communism, but I think there was no such role to speak of and there is nothing to diminish. They wanted Communism and did not want it to end. That’s why Gorby is so universally reviled.
On the other hand, their warlord lamented the demise of the U.S.S.R. as the great tragedy, and that’s what I think a majority of their people feel like to. At least, the paramount leader enjoys an unprecedented support.
So, by comparing their opinions of Gorby and of Putin, you can see what they think of Communism and the U.S.S.R.
As for Reagan, his role I think is greatly exaggerated by the media and others. It’s naive to believe that everything that happened, happened just because he said “tear down this wall.”
Definitely, the insane economic and ideological systems had weakened the U.S.S.R. considerably. Yet, even in that weakened condition, she could have continued for many more years. Clearly, there was enough strength to at least crush, by conventional means and sheer brutality, whatever rebellion was ripening in East Germany.
But Gorby refused to do that even though he was able to. That’s what makes him such a transformational figure. It is he who destroyed Communism, willingly or unwillingly, not Reagan, all Reagan’s beautiful rhetoric notwithstanding. And that’s why Gorby is so passionately hated in the modern day Russia.
Robert // November 13, 2009 at 6:57 pm |
RV,
I think you might enjoy this mock documentary:
Ouch // November 12, 2009 at 4:06 pm |
My impression is rather opposite – mr. Reagan is usually presented as an USSR destroyer. Nobody tells though what exactly he did that destroyed the soviets. In fact USSR was in pretty good shape in 1990, so the collapse was the result of internal forces rather than of direct exernal impact.
Gordon // November 12, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
Absolute nonsense. The soviet economy was brought to the brink of collapse because the bolshevics were more interested in trying to use all the resources of the economy to counter Reagan’s active military and propoganda buildup against them (Reagan did this precisely to try to win the cold war, Slava Reagan!). Gorby did not bring in perestroika because he was a nice guy, he brought it in to try to turn around the russian economy that was on life support. The last thing he wanted was an end to the soviet russian empire. The very moment the man in the street understood that he probably wouldn’t be killed for demanding what is right, that is the moment that the soviet empire disintigrated.
Ouch // November 12, 2009 at 5:42 pm |
> The soviet economy was brought to the brink of collapse
Well firstly that’s exaggeration.
Then look, economies of Ukraine or Liberia suck much more. Yet there’s no sign anything is going to change in politics there. So the able political regime usually can survive an economical disaster.
Jurate // November 12, 2009 at 12:31 pm |
Most Russians are not aware that the fact that they were starving in the last years of the USSR and the first years of Russian Federation was caused by the inherent flaws of the Soviet system. The fact that so many Russians were simply doomed to starvation otherwise, made Gorby so willing to reform and safe some image and greatness of the Russian state. He succeeded. Could he have kept Eastern Europe with the USSR in such conditions? No. They could have possibly crashed with brutal force just the poor Baltics whom nobody wanted to see as different from the rest of the USSR and striving towards the West where they once belonged. And that’s because the West saw the Balts worse of all in Europe (was the most ready to turn the blind eye on the Balts, enjoying the achievement of freedom of the rest, of the stronger, more independent European countries). Gorby saved some of honor and pride of the Russians and himself acting like he did. No matter how angrily the present Russians who stopped or started starving during the capitalist years see him. They forgot or never knew what choices did Gorby have, imho.
Ouch // November 12, 2009 at 4:00 pm |
Well the soviet system had a lot of flaws indeed, but the statement “many Russians were simply doomed to starvation” is absolutely nonsence.
The inefficient and corrupt soviet economy still worked much better than the current systems in Pribaltika or Tajikistan.
Jurate // November 12, 2009 at 6:39 pm |
LOL, Ouch, the Russian idiot zombie or the paid slave propagandist of his Putler idiot, is trying to fool the uninformed and compared The Baltic states to Tajikistan as equals. :D :D :D They never starved in the 20 c. either, except during wars caused by Russians and the first years of kolkhozisation they hated and tried to sabotage.
LES // November 13, 2009 at 6:51 am |
The kremlin killed about 10,000,000 Ukrainians, in one (1) year, 1932/1933, during their GENOCIDE by starvation – HOLODOMOR!
Ouch // November 13, 2009 at 7:57 am |
Well not Kremlin. The Holodomor was mostly made by local activists.
And now the history repeats itself. The independent Kyiv already decreased the Ukrainian population on 10mln and there’s no end to it in sight.
Andrew // November 13, 2009 at 8:01 am |
Well Ouch, Russia is the state with the truly collapsing demographics.
Naqvamdis ghorro!
Andrew // November 13, 2009 at 8:03 am |
BTW, Holodomir was ordered from Moscow to crush the Ukrainian independance and anti-communist movements.
It was and is Russia’s great shame that it happened, and the constant denial of Russian crimes shows Russians to be little better than barbarians.
LES // November 14, 2009 at 1:05 am |
>> 1934 This is a quote from a communist leader speaking in the Kharkiv region in 1934:
“Famine in Ukraine was brought on to decrease the number of Ukrainians, replace the dead with people from other parts of the USSR, and thereby to kill the slightest thought of any Ukrainian independence.”
- V. Danilov et al., Sovetskaia derevnia glazami OGPU_NKVD. T. 3, kn.2. Moscow 2004. P.572
Robert // November 13, 2009 at 7:17 pm |
LES,
Actually more like over 3 million.
But in just the few worst months there were more deaths than in several years before this (including the previous months of the forced famine). Mostly children, I’ll add.
Now, stop feeding [yeah, it's ironic] a troll.
Ouch // November 13, 2009 at 7:54 am |
> the Baltic states to Tajikistan as equals
Both are failed state, their economies are just the burden to the world, unsustainable without the external welfare. That’s what i meant.
Andrew // November 13, 2009 at 8:00 am |
Russia is a failed state by that definition, just look at what happens to your economy when foreign investors realise that Russia is a lawless, amoral cesspit.
Ouch // November 13, 2009 at 8:38 am |
Yet can call Russia ‘lawless amoral cesspit”, but you can’t call it a ‘burden’. We pay our bills not asking for favours, and even manage to help some other countries out. That’s the difference.
Andrew // November 14, 2009 at 4:54 am |
Russia help anyone? LOL
Yes, if you consider arms transfers to Serbia & Sudan in violation of UN arms embargoes “helping people out”
Russia has already done one default on its foreign debt, it is quite likely to do another in the near future.
You have never paid your debts as a nation to those you occupied and opressed for so long.
The US & UK give many times more in foreign aid than Russia, and do far more good in the world, hell, even New Zealand with 4 million people does more good in the world than Russia.
Jurate // November 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm |
As long as Russia is lucky to have oil and gas and other goods in its soil, Europe – including the Baltics – pays its people’s bills – Russians pay much less for their home sustainment each month – water, gas, heating – than what it costs to bring all that to their appartments.
The Baltics are not failed states – their people work and pay their bills, even in case they would work abroad – mostly in the West, not in Russia, which is lawless and wouldn’t pay them as much as their work may be worth. :D Learn the concept of the failed state before you use it. You compatred the Baltics to Tajikistan because you saw (or wanted to spread, lol?) some antiBaltic propaganda on your Russian TV or your Russian sites… Putin fears that Baltic Russians don’t want to leave to Russia and the Russian Russians would gladly come to the Baltics and see how Russia is much more of a failed state – cesspit, if you prefer that, lol, that’s why he spread that propaganda. Commies were dumped by LT voters in the latest elections and the Conservatives achieved some more order, so the commies are utterly relentless helpers of Putin in that now – desperate to come back to power again. Dream on that the Baltics will ever look and feel like Tajikistan. Never, unless Russian idiots come and “help” with their bombs. Or not even in that case, depends on how effective killer of life the bomb will be.
I `m Russian // November 13, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=865210&categoryOPINION
LES // November 14, 2009 at 1:16 pm |
See the BBC video report:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/8359029.stm
And the story from:
The Guardian
Home Pages
Recognition at last for Welsh reporter who exposed Ukraine’s famine to the world:
Gareth Jones’s diaries from Stalin’s 1932-33 ‘genocide’ go on display for first time
Mark Brown Arts correspondent
13 November 2009
© Copyright 2009. The Guardian. All rights reserved.
In death he has become known as “the man who knew too much” – a fearless young British reporter who walked from one desperate, godforsaken village to another exposing the true horror of a famine that was killing millions. Gareth Jones’s accounts of what was happening in Soviet Ukraine in 1932-33 were different from other western accounts. Not only did he reveal the true extent of starvation, he reported on the Stalin regime’s failure to deliver aid while exporting grain to the west. The tragedy is now known as the Holodomor and regarded by Ukrainians as genocide.
Two years after the articles Jones was killed by Chinese bandits in Inner Mongolia – murdered, according to his family, as punishment in a Soviet plot.
Jones’s remarkable story is being told afresh by his old university, Cambridge, which is displaying for the first time his handwritten diaries. They will go on display at the Wren Library alongside items relating to rather better known Trinity old boys such as Newton, Wittgenstein and AA Milne, coinciding with a new documentary about Jones and the famine, The Living, which gets its British premiere this evening.
Rory Finnan, a lecturer in Ukrainian studies at Cambridge, called Jones “a true hero”. “He is a remarkable historical figure and it is also remarkable that he is not well known. Jones was the only journalist who risked his name and reputation to expose the Holodomor to the world.”
Born in Barry in 1905, Jones became interested in Ukraine and learned Russian because of his mother, who worked as a governess for the family of John Hughes, a Merthyr Tydfil engineer who founded a Ukrainian town called Hughesovka – now Donetsk. Jones became David Lloyd George’s foreign adviser, visiting the USSR for the first time as the former prime minister’s eyes and ears.
However, it was in 1932-33 that Jones would make his name, walking alone along a railway line visiting villages during a terrible famine that killed millions. He sent moving stories of survivors to British, American and German newspapers but they were rubbished by Stalin’s regime and derided by Moscow-based western journalists. The only other reporter writing about the extent of the famine was Malcolm Muggeridge in the Manchester Guardian, although his articles were heavily cut and not bylined.
Jones walked from one starving village to another, sending reports of the famine that were rubbished by the Stalin regime.
In Ukraine, Jones is something of a national hero and last year both he and Muggeridge were awarded the highest honour Ukraine gives to non-citizens, the order of freedom, for their reporting. Jones’s great-nephew, Nigel Linsan Colley, said he was pleased his great-uncle is finally being recognised. “I don’t know whether he was brave or stupid. He knew the risks he was taking, I think, but because he was a British citizen he thought he was indestructible.”
LES // November 14, 2009 at 8:43 pm |
Again the articles were damned and wrongly discredited. Banned from the USSR, Jones decided he wanted to explore what was going on in the far east and, in particular, what Japan’s intentions were. The day before his 30th birthday Jones was kidnapped and killed by Chinese bandits. Jones’s descendants believe it happened with the complicity of Moscow. “There is no direct proof,” said Colley, “but plenty of indirect proof.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/nov/13/gareth-jones-story-retold-documentary
LES // November 15, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release November 13, 2009
Statement by the President on the Ukrainian Holodomor Remembrance Day
Seventy six years ago, millions of innocent Ukrainians – men, women, and children – starved to death as a result of the deliberate policies of the regime of Joseph Stalin. Tomorrow, we join together, Ukrainian-Americans and all Americans, to commemorate these tragic events and to honor the many victims.
From 1932 to 1933, the Ukrainian people suffered horribly during what has become known as the Holodomor – “death by hunger” – due to the Stalin regime’s seizure of crops and farms across Ukraine. Ukraine had once been a breadbasket of Europe. Ukrainians could have fed themselves and saved millions of lives, had they been allowed to do so. As we remember this calamity, we pay respect to millions of victims who showed tremendous strength and courage. The Ukrainian people overcame the horror of the great famine and have gone on to build a free and democratic country.
Remembering the victims of the man-made catastrophe of Holodomor provides us an opportunity to reflect upon the plight of all those who have suffered the consequences of extremism and tyranny around the world. We hope that the remembrance of Holodomor will help prevent such tragedy in the future.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/statement-president-ukrainian-holodomor-remembrance-day
LES // November 16, 2009 at 10:19 pm |
By 1933 there were numerous incidents of cannibalism, and this despite the fact that the 1932 Fall harvest had been a good one. States Dolot, “From the very start of the harvest to the end, not a single pound of wheat had been distributed to the village inhabitants. Nothing was left for them. We were told that all the grain had to be transported to the railroad stations. We also learned that there it had been dumped on the ground, covered in tarpaulins, and left to rot.”
LES // November 17, 2009 at 2:11 am |
Source: Reprinted from The Journal of Historical Review, vol. 7, no. 2, pp. 229-231.
LES // November 19, 2009 at 11:16 pm |
Dear Robert,
The 3,000,000 # that you gave comes from the kremlin spin-doctors, or some clueless bookworm scholars, that could not fathom the intentional mass murder – GENOCIDE BY STARVATION {PRONOUNCED HOLODOMOR} – that the secular uncivilized barbarians from the kremlin orchestrated. Some “scholars” base their 3,000,000# on statistics.
“Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.”
Evan Esar quotes
“Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.”
Aaron Levenstein quotes
“There are lies, damned lies and statistics.”
Mark Twain quotes (American Humorist, Writer and Lecturer. 1835-1910)
>> 1937 The demise of the USSR and the opening of archives have shed light on this matter by revealing the results of the previously suppressed 1937 census. According to the 1937 census, the number of Ukrainians, within the USSR in 1937, decreased by 16%. Meanwhile, based on the 1939 census, the population of Russia increased by almost 30%.
The fact that the 1937 Soviet census was officially declared invalid by the kremlin and not released suggests that its results indicated a catastrophic population decline as a consequence of the Holodomor.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hungersnot_ukraine.jpg
The above map of Ukraine clearly shows that there was no famine in the Crimea (where the secular uncivilized barbarians from the kremlin had their “dachas”) and in Western Ukraine (which was occupied by other European countries). This clearly shows that the Ukrainian people {PRONOUNCED HUMAN BEINGS} were targeted by the kremlin!
Fact file: during three months of 1933, over 600,000 people died in Kharkiv oblast. The total mortality count reached 2,000,000-one-third of all peasants in the region. As can be seen from archival photographs, peasants died on the city’s central street. Every morning their bodies were dumped into suburban ravines. Every evening the streets were covered with new corpses.
Kharkiv was then the capital of the Ukrainian SSR, so historians call the city in that period “the capital of despair.”
http://www.day.kiev.ua/177534/
If two million (2,000,000) died in that one (1) region, how can three million (3,000,000) be a viable accounting for the HOLODOMOR in the entire?
The pregnant Ukrainian women died because they had to eat for 2-4 people. When the parents died, then the children died also.
Back then, Ukrainian families in the towns and villages had 5-10 children (my Father had 11 siblings).
Vovkun said that a relevant decision has been today made at the Cabinet meeting. According to different estimates, the Great Famine (Holodomor) took from 7 to 10 million lives in Ukraine, including around 4 million children, which was 25% of the country’s population at that time.
(Ukrinform, Kyiv, Ukraine, Wed, October 14, 2009)
Special detachments of urban activists searched the homes of collective and independent farmers and seized all the grain they could find to fulfill the delivery quota. Peasants were forbidden to save grain for seed, feed, or even human consumption; all of it was removed.
To minimize peasant opposition, a law introduced the death penalty ‘for violating the sanctity of socialist property.’ This state of affairs led to the terrible, man-made Famine-Genocide of 1932-3, which resulted in several million deaths from starvation and related diseases in Ukraine…
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/featuredentry.asp
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com
If a starving Ukrainian peasant was caught looking for a few stalks of wheat in the mud, after the harvest, they were shot.
In 1932 Ukraine had an average grain harvest of 146.6 million centers (15.5 million centers more than in 1928), and there was no climatic danger of famine. Yet, because of onerous forced grain requisition quotas that the Bolshevik state imposed upon the Ukrainian rural population, the peasants already experienced hunger in the spring of 1932.
The grain collections were brutally carried out by 112,000 special Bolshevik agents sent to Ukraine to extract grain by using terror against both collectivized and independent farmers. Consequently mass starvation and disease became rampant, resulting in millions of deaths.
The Holodomor affected almost all parts of interwar Soviet Ukraine, but it grew to massive proportions in the republic’s southern and eastern oblasts. It also occurred in the territories bordering on the Ukrainian SSR that were populated mostly by Ukrainians, such as the Kuban and the Don region. Only an insignificant part of the population—the privileged rural Communist functionaries, who were served by a special distribution system—did not experience hunger. Urban inhabitants and industrial regions suffered less, because they received food rations. But the peasants were forced to try to survive on various food surrogates. Consequently mass starvation and disease became rampant, and occurrences of cannibalism were reported. Whoever had the strength fled to the cities, to the industrial Donets Basin, or to Russia in search of food. Peasants who were caught were repressed or returned to their starving villages, where the vast majority perished alongside those who had been too weak or ill to attempt escape.
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?AddButton=pages\F\A\Famine6Genocideof1932hD73.htm
>> 1930 The kremlin relocated many Ukrainians to Kazakhstan, the kremlin begins to orchestrate another GENOCIDE on the territory of Kazakhstan. By 1932, about 80% {?} of the non-russians in the territory of Kazakhstan are exterminated by the secular uncivilized barbarians in the kremlin, and some villages did not have any living children.
http://www.rferl.org/content/A_Tragedy_Kazakhstan_Must_Never_Forget/1357455.html
Sincerely,
LES
PS When I went to the family cemetery in Southern Ukraine, next to the graves of my Grand-Parents I noticed an 8×12 inch stone, lying flat and covered with snow. A few yards away was my Great-Grand-Father’s monument, which was over 12 feet high. I took off my gloves to clean the snow off of the stone, and saw: Maria (with my surname) January 1933. My surviving relatives could not tell me anything about her, but they said that when a baby died, and was “lucky” enough to be properly buried, the baby received a small stone. I do not know if she was a sister or a cousin, but I do know what she never had a chance to give me any nephews or nieces. I doubt that she was included as a statistical victim of HOLODOMOR, just like the so many other unknown little children that died in the villages, and were not counted.
LES // November 20, 2009 at 1:17 pm |
>> 1932-33 The KREMLIN REMOVES ALL FOOD FROM Ukrainian villages, does not allow food to enter Ukraine, does not allow Ukrainians to leave Ukraine, or their villages, and creates GENOCIDE by starvation in Ukraine! {about ten million (10,000,000) Ukrainians are killed in this GENOCIDE called HOLODOMOR!} Dead bodies, from an artificially created starvation, litter the streets of Kyiv, like cigarette butts in NYC. Meanwhile, there are no dead bodies on the streets of moscow! In fact, there are banquets in moscow. In fact, dead bodies, from an artificially forced starvation {PRONOUNCED GENOCIDE}, were strewn in the streets, throughout all of the cities in the Ukrainian territory that was occupied by the moskali! Now the kremlin will have to re-rewrite their history books {AGAIN} and claim that dead bodies littered the streets of moscow in 1932-33, also?
Ethnic Russians later poured into these vacated {PRONOUNCED GENOCIDE}, cultivated and furnished areas, dramatically altering their ethnic makeup and laying the ground for bitter disputes that continue to this day.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hungersnot_ukraine.jpg
A. // November 21, 2009 at 7:56 pm |
LES, I appreciate the fact that you are trying to increase awareness of the genocide suffered by the Ukrainians in the 30s, but there are some objectionable things about your posts. First of all, you talk about “Western Ukraine” being “occupied by other countries” back in the 30s, which is ridiculous. What you call “Western Ukraine” consists of territories that belonged to Poland, Czechoslovakia and Romania and had nothing to do with Ukraine before being invaded by the Soviets and annexed to Ukraine.
And I also object to the idea that Ukrainians were perpetual victims of the USSR. The situation is a bit more ambivalent. Ukraine was given territories it had no historical claim to (and to this day, Ukraine’s borders are the result of the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact), and Ukrainians participated in the forced Russification of non-Slavic “Soviet republics”. And even today Ukraine is trying to assimilate the native populations that inhabit the territories annexed during World War II.
I think Ukraine’s future lies in the EU and in NATO, but if Ukrainians don’t want to be just a “little Russia” the need to have a more honest and nuanced understanding of their history, and be more sceptical of ultra-nationalist myths.
Robert // November 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm |
Well, it’s Ukraine today, it had a majority of ethnic Ukrainians, and pro-independence militant organizations of Ukrainian nationalists, too, right? So I guess it was pretty much occupied. (Then it was occupied by the Soviet Union/Russians/Moscow, and by the Germans too.)
A. // November 22, 2009 at 6:18 am |
It’s Ukraine today only thanks to Hitler and Stalin and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Robert // November 22, 2009 at 7:57 am |
That was pretty harsh. Hitler and Stalin killed millions of Ukrainians and none of them planned an independent country for them.
Gordon // November 21, 2009 at 8:37 pm |
Western Ukraine has been in the past very multi-ethnic, but the inhabitants have ALWAYS been majority Ukrainian. Just because it was part of Poland did not make it Polish. When the area was ruled by Ausria-Hungry, did that make it German? Eastern Ukraine has been ruled from moscow for centuries. Why don’t you consider it Russian? The current borders of Ukraine are a reasonable manifestation of the true Ukrainian land. I would add Kuban to that because until the Holodomor, it also had a majority Ukrainian population, but now not.
A. // November 22, 2009 at 6:16 am |
Not really. For instance, Bucovina and Southern Bassarabia were always ethnically Romanian. And they had historically nothing to do with Ukraine. The ethnic make-up only changed due to ethnic cleansing and genocide after World War II, committed by both Russians and Ukrainians.
Robert // November 22, 2009 at 7:59 am |
And you know there was also ethnic cleansing OF the Ukrainians after WWII, right? And a resistance movement?
Gordon // November 22, 2009 at 3:58 pm |
Incorrect. Bukovina has always been Ukrainian ethnic territory.
A. // November 23, 2009 at 11:16 am |
Please stop making uininformed comments. Bucovina was never part of Ukraine, and even today the region as a whole has a Romanian majority. Northern Bucovina was annexed by the Soviets during WWII, and the current overall Ukrainian majority in Northern Bukovina (even though some “raions” are still predomninantly Romanian) is the result of Soviet deportation and genocide.
So by “always” you mean the last 50-60 years? Before the 19th century, Bucovina was almost 100% Romanian, and it was the Austrian occupiers who first settled large numbers of Slavs (mostly Ruthenians, and it’s debatable whether Ruthenians are Ukrainians). But even after a century of colonization Bucovina had a Romanian majority before the Soviet invasion.
Gordon // November 23, 2009 at 4:35 pm |
http://encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkPath=pages\B\U\Bukovyna.htm
A. // November 23, 2009 at 6:39 pm |
Some of the info on that website is inaccurate, but overall it doesn’t contradict what I said. So:
FACT: There were barely any Slavs in Bucovina prior to the 19th century. (according to the Austrian census, Romanians were 85% of the population when the area was annexed by Austria; up until the Soviet invasion the Romanians were the largest ethnic group)
FACT: Romanians are the indigenous population of Bucovina. Virtually the entire Slavic population was transplanted there in the 19th century, and then in greater numbers after 1944.
FACT: Bucovina belonged to the Romanian principality of Moldavia (until 1774), to the Austrian Empire (1774-1918) and to the Kingdom of Romania (until the Soviet invasion). Ukraine or Russia don’t figure anywhere on the list. Prior to 1991, Ukraine only existed as an internationally recognized independent state once, and even the short-lived Ukrainian People’s Republic recognized Bucovina as part of Romania.
So please educate yourself, instead of making a fool of yourself by emitting opinions on issues you know nothing about. Thanks.
LES // November 21, 2009 at 8:27 pm |
Kremlin secrecy extends to Holodomor archives
June 18 at 19:23 |
Vladimir Ryzhkov Vladimir Ryzhkov writes that the Russian government has to open its archives if it truly is interested in fighting falsification of history.
It is absurd that documents regarding the famine deaths of millions of people in 1932 and 1933 in southern Russia and Ukraine are still classified. Interestingly enough, Russia never tires of accusing Ukraine of falsifying history when Kyiv claims that the Holodomor, or famine, was an act of Soviet (read: Russian) genocide against the Ukrainian people. Moscow maintains that Stalin’s policy of seizing food supplies was directed against all the agricultural regions of the Soviet Union – mainly Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan – regardless of ethnicity. If that is the case, why doesn’t the Kremlin immediately declassify those documents and expose Stalin’s decisions? In this way, the Kremlin warriors for historical truth could pull the rug out from under Ukraine’s allegedly “brazen attempt to falsify history.”
Vladimir Ryzhkov, a State Duma deputy from 1993 to 2007, hosts a political talk show on Ekho Moskvy radio. This column was originally published in the Moscow Times (www.moscowtimes.ru) on June 9 and is reprinted with the author’s permission.
http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/43615/
LES // November 22, 2009 at 6:27 am |
Dear A,
With all due respect, I think that you have read so many BS kremlinoid comments, that their subliminal brainwashing is affecting you. Ukraine has been attacked and occupied by the Countries on the North, South, East and west, for centuries. If someone steals something from you, and returns it, they are not giving you a gift!
One of the tragic things for Ukrainians is that their history has been rewritten by the kremlin, and incorporated into western history books.
Ukrainian lands go well past the present day borders of Ukraine:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ukrainians_en.svg
Ukrainian settlement of Kuban first started in 1792 when the Black Sea Cossack Host was given the rights to these lands by the Empress Katherine II. According to the Ukaz of 30.6. and 1.7.1792 these lands were handed over to the Black Sea Cossacks “for eternity”. Therefore, the kremlin should give back the Kuban also.
The 1897 census combined both the Russian and Ukrainian population together. Together they made up 97.64% of the population. The number of Ukrainian language speakers was 859,122 (49.1%).The number of Russian language speakers was 732,283. (41.1%)[1]. The ethnographer Pavlo Chubynsky stated that the number of Ukrainians in the Kuban was understated and that they also made up 60% of those who put down Russian as their language were of Ukrainian ethnicity. The ethnographer and statistician O. Rusov also noted a similar number in his writings. [2].
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kuban_1926.png
Ethnographic map of the Slavic peoples prepared by Czech ethnographer Lubor Niederle showing territorial boundaries of Slavic languages in Eastern Europe in the mid 1920’s:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Ethnographic_map_of_Slavs%2C_Lubor_Niederle.JPG
>> 1918 The West Ukrainian People’s Republic was proclaimed on November 1st, 1918.
Map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:West_ukraine.png
>> 1939 On March 15 Carpatho-Ukraine declared its independence as the “Republic of Carpatho-Ukraine”, with the Reverend Avhustyn Voloshyn as head of state.
“The First Constitutional Law of Carpatho-Ukraine” of March 15, 1939 defined the new status of the country as follows:
1. Carpatho-Ukraine is an independent state.
2. The name of the state is: Carpatho-Ukraine.
3. Carpatho-Ukraine is a republic, headed by a president elected by the Sojm of Carpatho-Ukraine.
4. The state language of Carpatho-Ukraine is the Ukrainian language.
5. The colors of the national flag of the Carpatho-Ukraine are blue and yellow, blue on top and yellow on the bottom.
6. The state emblem of Carpatho-Ukraine is as follows: a bear on a red field on the sinister side, four blue and three yellow stripes on the dexter side, as well as the trident of Saint Volodymyr the Great.
7. The national anthem of Carpatho-Ukraine is “Sche ne vmerla Ukraina” (“Ukraine has not perished”).
8. This act comes valid immediately after its promulgation.
9. map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carpatho_Ukraine_March_1939.png
10. The Ukrainian battle against the Nazi supported Hungarians’ attack on Carpatho-Ukraine may be considered the first battle of WWII.
Both Hitler and Stain temporarily closed the Ukrainian “question” in 1938—1939. Hitler again duped the Western democracies and deliberately provoked a fuss over Ukraine as a disguise. Then he finally seized Czechoslovakia, which was humiliated by the 1938 Munich treachery, without a single gunshot in March 1939, dismembered the ill-fated country, and reached the strategic border of the now doomed Poland. Leaving Carpatho-Ukraine to the tender mercies of Hungary in exchange for the Hungarian dictator Mikl s Horthy joining the Axis on Feb. 29, 1939, Hitler helped the Polish government achieve its dream — “a common border” with Hungary.
In his turn, speaking on March 10, 1939 (four days before the Hungarian invasion of Carpatho-Ukraine), at the 18th Congress of VKP(b), Stalin sent Hitler a positive signal from the topmost Kremlin podium, accusing the Anglo-French and North American press of whipping up tension around the Carpatho-Ukraine question and intending “to stir up the Soviet Union’s rage against Germany, poison the atmosphere, and provoke a conflict with Germany for no apparent reason.”
This, in fact, triggered a tumultuous affair between Stalin and Hitler: within just a few months they became conspirers and accomplices in the destruction of Poland and allies in the early stage of World War II.
http://day.kiev.ua/280057/
Sincerely,
LES
PS You made other unthinking remarks, which should be addressed later.
A. // November 23, 2009 at 11:33 am |
LES, what are you talking about? “Subliminal Kremlin messages”? What does that have to do with the HISTORICAL FACT that there was no “Western Ukraine” in the 30s and that Ukraine’s current borders are the result of Soviet aggression in 1940. Just as I have no time for Russian falsifications of history and imperialist myths, I have no time for Ukranian falsifications of history and nationalist myths. When did Bucovina or Southern Bassarabia belong to Ukraine before 1940, and 1947 respectively? Could you give me any legal claim apart from the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, and (the Ukrainian) Khruschev’s arbitrary decisions?
Unfortunately, Ukraine shares some unpleasant traits with Russia (artificially inflated borders, widely held nationalist myths that have nothing to do with history, oppression of minorities, and a mythology of victimization that is not always based on rational grounds). So I repeat, if you don’t want to be a “little Russian” stop acting like a Russian with a chip on his/her shoulder.
Andrew // November 24, 2009 at 5:19 am |
Acyually, Krushchev was an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, he did however help organise bolshevik activities in eastern Ukraine and lived in Ukraine for much of his adult life.
He was a Russian.
A. // November 24, 2009 at 8:29 am |
He may have been an ethnic Russian (but he grew up in Ukraine, if I’m not mistaken), but my broader point was that 1) current Ukrainian borders are a result of arbitrary Soviet decisions based on no legitimate legal or historical grounds and 2) Ukrainians weren’t perpetual victims of the Soviets; while they suffered horribly under Stalin, in subsequent Soviet administrations Ukraine benefitted territorially and Ukrainians were to some extent a privileged nation in the USSR and contributed actively in other republics to the Russification and ethnic cleansing that they now accuse the Russians of (see the Ukrainian settlers in the Baltics and in Bassarabia, who still speak only Russian and still refuse to integrate). So I was only arguing for a sober, realistic view of history.
Andrew // November 24, 2009 at 10:52 am |
I understand entirely, but interestingly he never referred to himself as Ukrainian.
On your other points, they are true to a great extent, however I will note that Ukrainians in Georgia (in my experience) speak Georgian and are quite well intergrated as a general rule. So are a large percentage of the Russian population.
I think it has to do with being a long way from Moscow.
LES // November 24, 2009 at 4:53 pm |
>> 1956 In February 1956, Nikita Khrushchev in his speech On the Personality Cult and its Consequences condemned the deportations as a violation of Leninist principles, asserting that the Ukrainians avoided such a fate “only because there were too many of them and there was no place to which to deport them.”
LES // November 23, 2009 at 7:30 pm |
In 1953 Raphael Lemkin described “the destruction of the Ukrainian nation” as the “classic example of Soviet genocide.”
He wrote:
“…the Ukrainian is not and never has been a Russian. His culture, his temperament, his language, his religion, are all different…to eliminate (Ukrainian) nationalism…the Ukrainian peasantry was sacrificed…a famine was necessary for the Soviet and so they got one to order…if the Soviet program succeeds completely, if the intelligentsia, the priest, and the peasant can be eliminated [then] Ukraine will be as dead as if every Ukrainian were killed, for it will have lost that part of it which has kept and developed its culture, its beliefs, its common ideas, which have guided it and given it a soul, which, in short, made it a nation…This is not simply a case of mass murder.
It is a case of genocide, of the destruction, not of individuals only, but of a culture and a nation.”
LES // November 26, 2009 at 4:54 am |
Despite all this progress, one glaring exception remains – an unrepentant Russia. Today, Russia has changed only its tactics, not its ultimate goal of solving its “Ukrainian problem.” Russia continues its work to eliminate all that defines Ukrainians as a people and as a nation in order to return Ukraine once and for all to regional status within Russia.
In order to accomplish this, Russia must not only reassert its political control over Ukraine, but also fully subsume Ukrainian culture, society, business and industry into the Russian milieu. For Russia, this is a work in progress. However, Russia must also establish some degree of international acceptance of the elimination of Ukrainian national identity as well as of Ukraine as a nation.
Nothing stands in Russia’s way more than the Holodomor. How can Russia pretend to be a respected world leader, a caring and responsible steward of its people with all that blood on its hands? This is a case of Lady Macbeth in reverse – the world sees the blood, while Russia actually believes that after seventy-five years of denial, rewriting history, repression and destruction of evidence, it has washed away the blood and is now magically pure as a newborn baby’s soul.
But all of a sudden, here come those Ukrainian witnesses again. The survivors may be old, but they are unanimous about how and why it happened: “The Russians did it.” And, to make matters worse, the Ukrainian government has opened up the archives – with all those documents clearly stating that the purpose of the Holodomor was to destroy the Ukrainians.
While the Holodomor marked the height of Russian genocide against Ukrainians, it was by no means an isolated event. Under Russian rule, Ukrainians were subjected to tyranny that went beyond traditional interpretations of genocide, to what this author terms “metagenocide” – long term ongoing genocide systematically targeting for destruction not just a group of people but also all that defines them as that group. The goal is not just to deny the group’s right to exist, but to deny that it ever existed as a nation in the first place, to wipe it from humanity’s collective memory.
Russia’s metagenocide in Ukraine was pervasive, calculated, insidious and covert. It was at times incremental, at times opportunistic, but never losing sight of its ultimate goal – to eliminate once and for all, all things Ukrainian and leave unchallenged Russia’s claim that all those things were and are really Russian.
It combined the worst aspects of classic genocide with long term intentional ethnocide. Russia’s metagenocide in Ukraine targeted not only Ukrainian persons, but also the Ukrainian language, culture, history, churches, traditions and all else that contributes to defining Ukrainians as Ukrainians and not as just another subset of Russians.
Russian destruction of Ukrainian people systematically targeted first one segment of the Ukrainian population and then another, the ultimate goal to eliminate them all. The killing of Ukrainians who insisted on being Ukrainians lasted throughout the twentieth century and for some, into the twenty-first.
Before World War II, several waves of killing destroyed the bulk of the Ukrainian nation’s leadership class. Ukrainian civil authority was eliminated during and after the revolution (1918-1921). The Ukrainian clergy and churches were eliminated in the early 1930s, leaving only a handful of Moscow Patriarchate affiliated churches controlled by the Russian secret police.
The destruction of the intelligentsia, begun in earnest in 1929 with the destruction of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, peaked in the late 1930s as the remaining survivors were executed or exiled, Ukraine’s premier historian Mykhailo Hrushevsky being among the last to fall. The Holodomor was designed to destroy the Ukrainian peasant class, the roots of Ukrainian national identity. Ukrainian nationalist leaders abroad were also assassinated, including Symon Petliura (Paris, 1926) and Yevhen Konovalets (Rotterdam, 1938).
Germany’s attack on the Soviet Union in 1941 and the subsequent obliteration of Ukraine’s western border created the opportunity for Russia to extend its rule and anti-Ukrainian state terrorism into Western Ukraine (until then under Polish rule). Ironically, Ukrainians were perhaps the only major nationality that got it right in World War II.
To Ukrainians, the Nazis and the Communists were equally evil – two sides of the same fascist coin. Wanting only their own freedom, Ukrainians fought both the Germans and the Russians, and paid the ultimate price when Germany was defeated but Russia was not. As a victor and partner of the Allies, Russia was allowed to take control of all of Ukraine.
Instead of peace, the end of World War II brought continued death and destruction to Ukraine and Ukrainians. In 1946, the Ukrainian Catholic Church, predominant in Western Ukraine, was closed, its property was seized, its churches demolished and its clergy killed or exiled to Siberia. In 1947, Russia inflicted another massive slaughter by starvation on Ukrainians, as more than a million died when their food was once again seized and shipped out to feed Russians and their newly acquired satellite states in Eastern Europe.
In the 1960s and 70s numerous Ukrainian intellectuals, writers, artists and cultural figures were arrested and exiled to Siberia. Songwriter Volodymyr Ivasiuk was murdered in 1979 in an effort to stop a nationalist resurgence in popular music. At the same time, the archives were purged of much damning evidence and crucial historical and cultural materials were transferred as Russia sought to rewrite history to suit its propaganda purposes. Once again, it all proved to be only a temporary solution.
http://cybercossack.com/?p=1408