EDITORIAL
Chechnya Explodes
On April 16th, Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin announced the end of “counter-terrorist operations” in Chechnya. In other words: Mission accomplished!
Oops. On April 24th, it reinstated them.
Blogger David McDuff explains: “With news within the last 24 hours of three explosions in Grozny, an armed clash with insurgents and an attack on police by insurgents in a fifth Chechen district, Nozhai-Yurtovsky, it looks as if the Chechen conflict may be intensifying once again. In fact, the process of activation appears to have begun even earlier – before the official announcement of the ending of counter-terrorist operations (CTO) in the republic.”
McDuff points to the analysis of the Jamestown Foundation’s North Caucasus Weekly publication, which shows how in fact there was a long history of violence in Chechnya that was simply ignored when the Kremlin decided it had “won.”
In other words, once again the Kremlin failed, lied to cover up the failure, and was exposed. This little vignette demonstrates the essence of the Putin administration, a litany of humiliating and costly failures that were totally predictable from the moment Russia foolishly decided to hand unlimited power to a totally unqualified KGB spy. Even as Russia prepares to hold the 2014 Olympics in Chechnya’s back yard, it is losing control of the region to violence and corrupt local leaders it cannot hope to control. Not only that, but the violence is spreading to places like Dagestan and Ingushetia, and at the same time Russia has provoked other nearby countries like Ukraine and Georgia, both of which have nothing but contempt for Russia now.
The people of Russia, by their own choice, have sealed their fate. The world is left to gape in horror and wonder what sort of country will replace Russia, as Russia itself replaced the USSR when it collapsed because of exactly the same type of failure.
Not really “explodes”, jut nothing changed.
Btw, according to Memorial the number of violent deaths in Ingushetia is still rising (another year in row). Government gunmen are getting really nervous:
Shootout between police, Ingush president’s guards kills 3
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090428/121357331.html
Or maybe it was no accident. It’s Russia so who knows.
Duma Deputy Adam Delimkhanov is now officially wanted by Interpol.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710806785&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
From Russian newspapers (Kommersant and MK):
HOW COME ABOLITION OF COUNTER-TERRORISM OPERATION REGIME IN CHECHNYA FAILED TO MAKE THE MILITARY POSTED THERE HAPPY?
Security structures met the news that the counter-terrorism operation regime in Chechnya was finally history with a marked lack of enthusiasm. No wonder since Chechnya is no longer a major and wealthy employer for the military and policemen ready to stick their necks for the hazard pay.
First, the federal group will be downsized from 50,000 to 30,000.
Second, salaries in the units permanently quartered in Chechnya (14,000 men of the 42nd Motorized Infantry Division of the Defense Ministry and 15,000 of the 46th Brigade of the Internal Troops) are to be cut by half (forget combat pay and all sorts allotments they were entitled to until now). A private serviceman of the regular army is paid 13,000-15,000 rubles in Central Russia and 22,000-25,000 in Chechnya (corresponding figures for the Internal Troops are 15,000 rubles against 30,000). Even the Chechen police (17,000 men strong) are despondent over the loss of combat pay. They are paid about 30,000 rubles a months now, too.
On the other hand, security structures stumbled upon a happy solution to their dilemma. The counter-terrorism operation regime was introduced again in some Chechen districts and four settlements. It does not take a genius to guess that local counter-terrorism operations will become quite frequent in Chechnya now: even a small bonus for the local operation is better than nothing at all.
Source: Kommersant-VLAST, NN 16 – 17, April 27 – May 3, 2009, p. 21
INFORMATION WARFARE IN CHECHNYA;
The military reports terrorist acts, the authorities deny everything
THE MILITARY OPENLY SPEAKS OF TERRORIST ACTS IN CHECHNYA NOWADAYS, SOMETHING IT USUALLY DOWNPLAYED UNTIL NOW; Gunmen in Chechnya become active again.
The abolition of the counter-terrorism operation regime in Chechnya must have had a negative effect on the relations between the federal military and the local authorities. These days, the military openly discloses information on terrorist acts and gunman attacks, something it usually downplayed until recently. Chechen officials in their turn keep repeating the mantra on how things are looking up in the republic.
A series of terrorist acts took place in Chechnya over the week-end. A military compound found itself under fire in one district of the republic, a skirmish occurred in another. The first explosion took place in Grozny on Friday night. Some pedestrians and policeman on the beat sustained fragmentation wounds. The second device went off several minutes later, and the third after a pause – right when forensic experts and Grozny military commandant had finally arrived. Commandant Colonel Igor Makeyev was wounded and treated for an injury in Khankala. No casualties were reported. Sources in Khankala meanwhile said that 4 policemen and 3 noncombatants had perished in the terrorist acts.
A team of Federal Security Service servicemen happened on a gang in the woods in the Nozhai-Yurt district. A battle was fought. No federals were wounded or killed in action. The gunmen eventually retreated deeper into the woods, leaving weapons and ordnance behind. Military unit posted in the settlement of Elistanzi, Vedeno district, was attacked at approximately the same time. A contract serviceman was killed in the barrage.
Counter-terrorism operation regime was introduced in three districts of Chechnya again – Vedeno, Shatoi, and Shali. The Chechen Interior Ministry immediately criticized this decision. President of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov denied introduction of the counter-terrorism operation regime in Chechnya.
Source: Moskovsky Komsomolets, April 27, 2009, p. 3
Author spity laughs when he get to know about new terracts in Chechnya. Death of Russians make him happy. Of course, Putin guilty in its. Thoughts about world terroristical organizations even don’t come to author’s mind.
LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:
Putin said no more protection from terrorists was needed in Chechnya. He was wrong, and his mistake cost lives. Do you give Putin credit for improving the economy? If so, then you must give him blame when the economy falls, and the same with Chechnya. It’s his job to stop terrorists, but he’s not stopping them.
And it’s the job of “terrorists” to stop Putin.
Anyway, the “end of the CTO” show was actually the initative of “president” Kadyrov. He forced it on the Russians so he can have no limitations on personal power & money – that’s all really the story and nothing else really changed. Ramzan won, and he’ll only lose when it will be restored back in Grozny (or someone blows him away – he’s already well outliving most people’s exceptations, it’s Chechnya).
Number of terracts became much smaller during last years. FSB know its job.
Why are terrorists in inverted commas? May be talibs are heroic rebels?
Ramzan is very important person for our country. I don’t think that he is angel, but while he exist Chechnya is relativly peacefull. Think about this. Do you want a terroristic centre near Europe?
I think Americans dream about their “Ramzan” in Iraq or Afganistan.
Number of “terracts” (another newspeak word?) will be on the rise again when the FSB will need them again.
Terrorism is nothing but a tactic (and a word), and there even Shamil Basayev was finally persuaded to stop targeting of innocent civilians in 2004. Btw, former terrorist can even get Peace Nobel Prizes (Begin, Arafat, Mandela).
Chechnya is in Europe, not “near Europe”. I think Russia is “a terroristic centre”.
You need to learn more about the Americans. And no, Afghanistan is not a state of the USA (Iraq is no longer a British colony neither).
For example, how incredible it would be if an US Senator was widely accused (and actually internationally wanted by Interpol) of personally exterminating a family of Medal of Honor recepients – on the orders of an illiterate Governor (and all of them officially being “amnestied bandits”).
Or how huge scandal it was when 1,464 (mostly poor and black) people died New Orleans because the state and the federal services was not properly prepared for a natural disaster.
But in Russia the devastating disaster was man-made and aentirely voidable, no even counted people killed in leveled Grozny (thousands? tens of thousands?), and instead of sackings and total criticism for massive numbers of civilian deaths and hundreds of thousands of refugees, medals and promotions were issued. For the people who presided over murders, torture, wanton destruction, kidnappings for ransom, looting, armed robberies, rapes.
If this happened in the United States, the President would be impeached and together with the military leaders tried for a mass murder of Americans.
Even an actually accidental killing of a single American citizien (of Arab descent) by the CIA (a drone strike on a carload of al-Qaeda members in Jordan) was unfortunate as it was an American (anti-American American, but still an American) who has been assassinated by a fellow Americans. In a PBS documentary on this (“Chasing a Sleeper Cell” in The Al-Qaeda Files series), a Homeland Security official interviewed was sad and sorry about this.
See the ECHR judgement in this sample case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Katyr-Yurt According to the official Russian standards (from 2008), this would constitute “genocide of Russian citiziens” – so shouldn’t Putin order himself to be “hang by the balls” for this?
It’s just as unimaginable to any of this to happen anywhere in the EU. And this is why Russia is “a terroristic centre near [the] Europe[an Union]” – and the country the EU receives most of refugees from (more than Iraqis, Afghans, Somalis).
“Russia itself replaced the USSR when it collapsed because of exactly the same type of failure”. There is no one reason to collapse of Russia.
LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:
That’s what Putin wants you to think so you don’t blame him. You are his puppet! Maybe you don’t even realize it.
In no particular order:
-catastrophic depopulation
-total corruption
-failure of the economic system
-ethnoreligious separatism
-inability to change peacefully (lack of democracy)
-Chinese expansionism.
Depopulation is normal phenomenon of postindustrial society. In any case it isn’t reason for disintegration. Corruption too.
Where did you see failure of the economic system? I don’t see.
Ethnoreligious separatism was only in Chechnya. Other national republics want to be part of Russia.
Lack of democracy isn’t worried Russians.
This interest moment. If we look to the history of China, we see that Chineses didn’t capture other countries, but many times been captured. I think they haven’t conqueror mentality. In second, there is lengthy landbetween Russia and China, but number of Chinese much bigger in USA. Why? I think they afraid Russian winter.
Chineses isn’t threat for us in contrast to several Western countries. To why do you need nuclear rockets near our frontiers?
Intrigues of CIA may be cause of collaps of Russia, like its was in case of collaps USSR.
There are no “nuclear rockets” near the Russian border. A proposal to put a missile defense system in place is not the same as ‘offensive nuclear missiles’. The only reason you Russians are afraid of our missile defense system is it would make it more difficult for you to threaten your neighbors and NATO. When the only foriegn policy Russians know is brute force and intimidation. Maybe you should try civilized diplomacy for a change. Guess that wouldn’t fit with the goose-stepping chest pounding ego of Russia.
Our diplomats know their job. They have the best education and expierence. They are very civilized.
Do we threaten NATO? Really? It is new for me. You sad nonsense. And we want to have a good relations with our neighbors.
We are afraid that this rockets break balance and allow to US to dictate it’s will to Russia. It is not good.
And I don’t except the plans of nulear war in heads of US generals.
“Our diplomats know their job. They have the best education and expierence. They are very civilized. ”
You must be kidding me. You are talking about people like Rogozin. About people like Putin.
“Do we threaten NATO? Really? It is new for me. You sad nonsense. And we want to have a good relations with our neighbors.”
Yes. Flying nuclear bombers near Britain (so the RAF fighters scramble to intercept them) is an example of a really friendly and non-threatening behaviour – just like nuclear threats to Poland.
Especially when the top Russian “politician” Zhirinovsky openly calls to nuke Britain (and many other countries).
“We are afraid that this rockets break balance and allow to US to dictate it’s will to Russia. It is not good. ”
If the US would “dictated its will to Russia”, it would save you. See Japan and West Germany after 1945 – and now. Then compare with the USSR after 1945 – and the former USSR now.
How about it, now? “Afraid” of what, them guiding you to be a successful and peaceful country?
Robert,
Good post, looks like we were on the same page at about the same time. Cheers!
Part of the problem with you Russians, is you think everybody else is as devious and mendacious as you are. The west would like a Russia that is trustworthy, civilized, and democratic, which it is not. You want good relations with your neighbors? Why do you invade Georgia, threaten Ukraine, attack computer networks of Latvia? Threaten to target Poland and Czech republic? Because they want good relations with the west? Why should that bother you? Russia is like a big bully, only knows how to push somebody around and steal what they have, you produce nothing that anybody wants to buy, besides raw materials/oil/gas. You have an uncompetitive system because of the communist/socialist influences, so you get mad and stomp your feet because you can’t compete in the world. The only countries that the U.S. threatens are criminal enterprises like your Russia, because we stand for the rule of law and you stand for lawlessness and gangsterism. You think we in the west have a high standard of living because we took things from someone else? It’s because we work hard and live by the rules.
A good article on the subject:
http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=26142
Ravings. We produce for example the best at this moment carrier rockets “Sojuz”. And many other useful things. Bolshoy theatre is one of the best in the world. Big part of scientists in US is Russians. We “produce” brains. I think you in the west have a high standard of living because European superethnos older than Great Russian superethnos. Do you think that we run at streets and shoot to each other? We also work hard, but situation isn’t so easy. Changes don’t happen very soon.
Not really.
The majority of scientists in Europe & the US are actually Western European, US, and Indian and Japanese.
Russian scientists are there too, but not in the large numbers you Russians have been led to believe.
You might export brains, but there isn’t much evidence of anybody using them in Russia these days. What other great products does Russia produce?
“carrier rockets “Sojuz”. ”
What are you talking about? Your country might be developing new weapons, but are unable to manufacture because all your expertise is either retired or gone. What about that carrier that India was going to buy, you guys couldn’t finish it. Take a new sub out for a trial and get a few dozen people killed, just another day in mother Roosha. Things will only get worse in your country until people own up to the truth, which doesn’t seem likely to happen.
He’s talking about about Soyuz space rockets.
“Bolshoy theatre is one of the best in the world.”
Ah, ‘and in the area of ballet, we’re ahead of the whole planet!’
Some things just never change :)
“I think you in the west have a high standard of living because European superethnos older than Great Russian superethnos.”
I have totally no idea what you’re talking about (again and again). Higher standards of living are enabled by a vastly superior economic-political systems. Again, South Korea and North Korea.
It was the first time I heard the word “superethnos”. Of course, turned out to be some weird exclusively Russian crap: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=superethnos&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=superethnos&fp=b7JHyscI2Po
Yep Robert, its definitely more Russian BS
http://www.pictures.hypermart.net/theory.htm
Just like Russians, to come up with a very complicated explanation for a very simple problem.
Somebody suggested that aglyamoff may be a troll stirring things up rather than sincerely delusional sovok. I didn’t think so, until I saw this Bolshoy reference. It has to be a hoax… a person can’t put this reference to rockets and ballet (the subject of classic mock song that Robert is referring to) without a wink.
Alright, aglyamoff – you got most of us. You impersonated a sovok idiot quite convincingly. Time to ‘fess up – why did you do that and what were you trying to achieve?
About balet and rockets are really ridiculous:)))
But they are really the best.
Robert, you came back.
‘and in the area of ballet, we’re ahead of the whole planet!’:))))) Where is it from?
Yes, Bolshoy is our pride:)
If you didn’t hear about Lev Gumilev, let me recommend his books to you. Great man with complicated life. He is undoubtedly one of the great Russian scientists. If you don’t know about they I’ll remind: Lomonosov,Lobachevskiy, Mendeleev, Pavlov, Kurchatov, Landau… It’s about useful of Russia.
Oh, I remember. I didn’t know that Vizbor was translated.
Wow, total denial. I don’t know why I even waste my time for you.
Just one thing,
“Intrigues of CIA may be cause of collaps of Russia, like its was in case of collaps USSR.”
Actually, the collaps[e] was caused by intrigues of the KGB – and the infighting in the Soviet government (culminating in the 1991 putsch attempt, followed by the Yeltsin’s stunt to get rid of Gorbachev by dissolving the USSR).
And yes, the Soviet political-economic reforms by the 1980s were initiated and controlled by the KGB (actually started by Andropov). They just screwed-up while trying to save the failing system.
We have very different views. Thank God, there are nuclear arms and the thoughts about teaching anybody or “civilization” will not come somebody’s head. Thanks to Robert Oppenheimer and I. V. Kurchatov they saved peace on the world.
Yes, we have very different views – and different civilizations indeed.
Your “civilization” one can see in North Korea, and ours in South Korea (that we have saved from you).
Yours in the People’s Republic of China, ours in the Republic of China.
Yours in People’s Republic of Germany, ours in the Federal Republic of Germany.
Yours in Cuba (a Soviet-hijacked revolution), ours in Japan.
Yours in the USSR and Russian Federation, ours in the United States and European Union.
In one you have opression, imperialism, mass deaths, in other there is shared success and personal freedom.
But you seems to genuily afraid to live in rich and free society because it would be un-Russian and “it’s a bad thing”, and this is just weird. You just want to be a slave.
Robert, I thought you are more clever. What a ravings?
“Imperialism, oppression” Weren’t this things in Little Britain for example?
Yours in Afghanistan, Yugoslavia for example.
Great Russians superethnos younger than European superethnos and we don’t come to your stage of development. We live only 18 (!) years in relatively democracy political system. Changes don’t happen so soon.
“You just want to be a slave” It’s just false.
Don’t drink and write.
The British imperialism ended in 1945 – people of Britain democratically decided to change. Then the people of the former colonies decided their destinies, too. The end.
“Afghanistan, Yugoslavia for example” – Afghanistan is an allied country that became democratic and now people can choose their future. It’s up to them now, we’re only providing assistance (while going after the people who attack us around the world).
And this for the first time ever (even as they were arguably most happy under monarchy – which was overthrown by “socialist” Soviet agents, sparking more than 30 years of war including the Soviet occupation).
The people of former Yugoslavia also chose their destiny – including that there’s no Yugoslavia in any form no longer.
Btw, it was also a decolonisation process – it was forceful Serbian domination over several other nations (and in the end even their Montenegro “brothers” decided they want to live in their own country).
Just look what the USA did while totally reforming Japan and Germany (after first defeating them). A “bad thing”, really? Wouldn’t like to have this “bad” average standard of life, even if you don’t care about your own human rights or personal liberty?
Look what the USA did to the war-destroyed countries with the Marshall Plan, when the USSR imperalists exploited their “sattelites” (including using millions of their peoples as slaves in forced labour camps).
What is a better country – yours Democratic People’s Republic of Korea or maybe rather ours Republic of Korea which we had rescued from this fate?
And I still don’t understand your happy-slave mentality (not only yours but this of your nation). Wake up.
We want to choice our way ourselves. We don’t want to be directed anybody.
USSR’s imperialism wasn’t only imperialism. It was an idea of communism in the whole world. Just as idea it isn’t bad. Communism isn’t Russian idea and this associations isn’t correct.
Republic of Korea isn’t our country now. We are building capitalism. Russia isn’t USSR. I explained that we are younger. The British imperialism ended in 1945, our ended in 1991.
I want democraty, civil society etc, but the time is needed. One generation, I think.
What “generation”?? Again and for the LAST time – see the US reform of Japan (formerly Empire of Japan) and Germany (formerly German Empire).
These empires are no more, completely. They’re now small (!), peaceful, SUCCESSFUL countries.
Just like the former British Empire – your “Little Britain”, and it’s better being “little”. Yes, the Eurasian behemoth that is Russia should be smaller too – much smaller. And it will be, one way or another, no matter how much Moscow tries to cling to their empire (formerly called Russian Empire, which was just calling spade a spade).
There was Turkish (Ottoman) Empire, Mongol Empire (rings some bells?), Spanish Empire, countless others (heck, even Poland was an empire once – at times “even” ruling over Moscow). They all just stopped being imperialists. Except you and the PRC Chinese.
Republic of Korea (ROK) was saved from you by us in the Korean War you unleashed in 1950. You can see the effects of our “bad” – just compare with the North.
But you don’t want to be saved from yourselves. Yes, you heard me right. So it will be the hard way, the way of all empires that crashed hard instead of dissolving peacefully, because you just can’t change, because your rulers are incompetent megalomaniacs, thieves and killers (stealing from and killing mostly you), because you don’t care and actually like this way as long as they feed you worthless imperialistic bull****, because of your collective irrational xenophobia and a fatalistic slave mentality at once.
You need a national therapy, exactly the kind MacArthur gave to Japan in 1946. Unfortunaltely I can’t see this happening. So no future for you.
So Algyamuff, you say:
“We want to choice our way ourselves. We don’t want to be directed anybody. ”
But you won’t allow Georgia, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Chechnya, Daghestan, Ingushetia etc to make their own choices and improve/repair their own nations after several centuries of Russian opession?
They want to join NATO? Whats the problem, its their choice, they want to be pro western, why do you complain?
My my my what a typical piece of Russian hypocrisy.
“We want to choice our way ourselves. We don’t want to be directed anybody.”
You would much rather be directed by your dictator herr Putin der fuehrer. I doubt that you speak for very many actual people in Russia. But I could be wrong, your propaganda is probably quite effective. You can believe whatever you choose, I pity you people, you could be so much better.
Hell Yes, there is contempt for Russia in Ukraine, because of statements by bonehead Rashiyan Politicians like this latest…
Andrey Nesterenko, a Russian Foreign Affairs Ministry representative, explains the absence of Ukrainian-language schools in Russia:
It can probably be explained by the similarity of Eastern Slavic languages and cultures, by a common history (Kyivan Rus, the Moscow state, the Russian Empire, the USSR) and by the same Orthodox Christian faith.
Due to the causes mentioned, there are no schools in the Russian Federation where the entire curriculum is taught in the Ukrainian language.
Russian Federation citizens of the Ukrainian ethnicity and Russians with Ukrainian citizenship are in different ethnocultural situations.
Attempts at comparing their positions by merely counting, for instance, the number of Russian schools in Ukraine and Ukrainian schools in Russia are illegitimate.
Illegitimate? Really?
So the 2.9 million “Russian Federation citizens of the Ukrainian ethnicity” eagerly assimilate and simply don’t want to preserve their language and culture. By contrast, not only do the 8.3 million “Russians with Ukrainian citizenship” want to preserve their mother tongue, but many of them also want to never ever learn Ukrainian.
Way to go Moscali, you are an interesting enemy.
http://tap-the-talent.blogspot.com/
May be our politicians are not ideal, but Ukrain’s politicians are really clowns.
I’ll take “really clowns” over mass murders anyday.
Politics is dirty business. Putin isn’t more killer than Bush. But he thinks about his country (in his own way of course), in contrast to Ukranian politics which only divide power.
For a country that seems hell bent on creating, arming, and supporting separatists in its neighbors Georgia, Moldova, & Ukraine, uses military force to facilitate the ethnic cleansing of the majority Georgians from Abkhazia 1992-94, and from South Ossetia 1991-92 & 2008, Azeris from Nagorno-Kharabakh, and Moldovans from Transdenistr in the early 90′s, they sure like to use force to crush their own separatists in the north Caucasus in Ingushetia, Daghestan, Schechnya.
Typical Russian hypocrisy.
Russians are history’s biggest mass murderers, is it and wonder so many ethnic minorities and former Russian slave states are rushing to align themselves with the west in general, and the USA in particular?
ravings of a madman, perverted view. I will not comment.
Typical Russian reaction.
Can’t argue with the truth so throw your toys out of the sandpit.
Try learning some history muppet, then maybe you will understand why Russia is loathed by its neighbors.
By the way Aglyamoff, considering the grand Mufti of the Tatars, and the politicians of the Tatar republic seem to be getting very upset about the linguistic (soon to be followed by political & military, if history is any guide) repression of the Tatars by moscow is any guide, your serf like worship of Russia might land you the title of collaborator.
I don’t see any repression of the Tatars by Moscow. Tatar language and culture are free taught on schools and universities. I think even more than necessary. I’m atheist ant I spit upon opinion of Mufti. Tatars work in State institutions and commercial companies in whole Russia without any segregation. Now Tatars is a subethnos in Great Russians superethnos like Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians. I don’t understand what do you talk about.
“Spit upon the opinion” well what a nice chap you are.
Do you also spit on the opinion of the politicians that represent the Tatar people?
Funny how Russian you have become, and its not a compliment.
http://www.rferl.org/content/Apparently_Russia_Needs_Just_One_National_Component/1614655.html
It’s lie. Tatar language and culture are free taught on schools and universities. I think even more than necessary.
I respect opinion of respected by me men. What is unusual?
Do you think if I don’t shoot at my Russian friends then I ‘m title of collaborator?
You know that Tatarstan has very special status, because it was negotiated for years(!) before officially joining the Russian Federation. Some of it was rolled back under Putin, but some remained.
Now if you lived in a totally failed (70-80% unemployment), very violent and super-corrupt police state like Ingushetia, where your people were even all ethnically cleansed from the neighbouring republic (where they lived for centuries), an the refugees from Chechnya at one point almost doubled your total population…
Tatarstan and Chechnya didn’t accepted constitution of RF. We could came to an agreement in contrast to Chechnya. Like normal civilized people.
“but some remained” Remained. Tatarstan is international person. Where is any repression?
Ingushetia want to be a part of RF.
They guilty themselves in failing their economy.
While the “unnormal noncivilized people” refused, so they were invaded and some 150-200 thousand people were killed to persuade them to change their minds.
Ingushetia would leave, but they can’t even elect their own government. The peaceful opposition leader who had proved the “election” (in which supposedly practically eveyone took part and voted for United Russia) was in fact boycotted, got rewarded for his trouble by getting shot in the head while in a police car (he was seized after flying back from Moscow).
And when there’s no legal opposition allowed, the only real option is the armed underground.
So much for Abkhazian & South Ossetian “independance”
“Under the security deals, Russia gets formal control over the regions’ borders for at least five years and the regions will have no jurisdiction over the Russian border-guard posts.”
http://www.rferl.org/content/Russia_To_Control_Georgian_Rebel_Regions_Borders/1618982.html
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
BRUSSELS, April 30 (Reuters) – NATO criticised pacts giving Russia direct control over the borders of Georgia’s rebel regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia on Thursday, saying they contravened peace deals brokered by the European Union.
PACE could still approve sanctions against Russia over its role in the war with Georgia over South Ossetia, when it resumes debates on the issue in October, a senior Russian lawmaker said on Thursday. The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe decided not to strip Russia of its voting rights during discussions on last August’s conflict or approve any punitive measures, but Konstantin Kosachyov, who leads the Russian delegation to PACE, said: “the issue has not been closed yet.”
Kosachyov said that “pressure on Russian will mount” as the Parliamentary Assembly is waiting for results of an EU commission probe into the conflict, which are due in June-July.
Count on the pressure to mount as even Belorussia wants to kick Moscow to the curb like a piece of dog$hit.
Oh the “Fit is Starting to hit the Shan” Russia counts on improving its relations with the West by relations with NATO or just another Slight of Mouth? Way to go, Mascali making friends.
NATO has ordered the expulsion of two Russian diplomats over a spy scandal in which an Estonian official was jailed for passing secrets to Moscow, a NATO diplomat said on Thursday.
“Two Russian diplomats have been told they are not welcome here,” BRUSSELS, April 30 (Reuters)
Not just unwelcome here, or anywhere. I might add.
Roman Kupchinsky writes: “What apparently upsets Moscow’s energy interests is that [proposed] legislation will pave the way for EU gas companies to buy Russian gas at the Ukrainian-Russian border and thereby integrate the Ukrainian gas transit pipeline into the European Union gas pipeline network. Such a move will further undermine Vladimir Putin’s goal of subjugating Ukraine.”
Now the talk will soon be; How are we going to reboot Russia? Kick the bastards to the curb I say.
Some clown here asked if Russia was threathening Nato countries. The answer is clearly: Yes!
What was this threat. A few years ago, a cyber war was unleashed on Nato member Estonia, Russian officials (members of the Duma, diplomats) were involved in organising riots, Russia tried to disrupt the Estonian economy and because of what? Estonia displaced a monument from a public square to a military graveyard. IF that isn’t threathening a Nato member, then what is? As a response on the US plans to install a defense shield against Iran in Europe, Russia answered with installing offensive rocket systems able to carry nucelar weapons in the Kalinigrad region and aimed at Poland and Czechia. If that is not a threat of Nato countries, then wat is? In a dispute with Ukraine over gas prices, Russia simply shut off gas deliveries to Europe, threathening the economies of several Southeastern European Nato member states. If that isn’t a threat to Nato countries… It is clear that Russia is still a threat to Nato, and that Nato has answered this threat way too mildly.
“cyber war” it’s laughable. No comment.
“Russia tried to disrupt the Estonian economy ” in Estonia there is no economy. They destroyed all that were built in USSR times and didn’t build itself anything.
Nuclear weapon in Kaliningrad is defense arrangement to threat by NATO. NATO first (for dumps I repeat FIRST) wanted to place rockets near our frontiers.
Talking about its are against Iran is laughable.
“Russia simply shut off gas to Europe”
Ukraine directed by US shut off gas.
Really Aglyamuff, you are quite pathetic.
Estonia, along with the other Baltic republics has made great strides in creating an economy out of the rubbish that was the soviet economic system.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/WorldwideFreedom/bg2060.cfm
http://www.globalpolitician.com/2614-baltic-eu-expansion-estonia
The cyber attacks on Estonia severely disrupted its banking system, which like most of western europe is an electronic one.
“MOSCOW — For nearly three weeks in the spring of 2007, Estonia was struck by a wave of sophisticated cyberattacks targeting the websites of the country’s parliament, banks, newspapers, and government ministries.
At times little more than a nuisance, at their worst the attacks effectively paralyzed life in Estonia, which has one of the highest levels of Internet penetration in Eastern and Central Europe and prides itself on its “paper-free” economy.”
http://www.rferl.org/content/Russian_Groups_Claims_Reopen_Debate_On_Estonian_Cyberattacks_/1564694.html
As for “Ukraine directed by US shut off gas.”
Wrong again algyamuff, it was Putin that ordered the gas shut off.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4BN32B20090102?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28515983/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/new-cold-war-in-europe-as-russia-turns-off-gas-supplies-1230036.html
Really algyamuff, you are a very poorly informed muff indeed.
In articles about Estonian economy there are only really pathetic words about “independence”. They haven’t any industry and rural economy. The slump of industrial production was 30% in February, it’s first in EU (Eurostat). They live only at the expense of subsidies of EU. This fascists got that they merited.
Ukraine stealed our gas, then blackmailed Russia.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jan/02/russia.oil
You are a very poorly informed muff indeed.
Also
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/03/russia-ukraine-gas-supplies-gazprom
“This fascists”
Multi-party representative democracy – “fascism”.
Russia is a fascist country – authoritarian, nationalist and militaristic, officially corporatist in economy (besides cleptocracy).
I won’t even start with you about the Baltic Tigers’ economy because I’d only waste my time with you.
Actually I wasted enought time already.
I don’t know what do you do here. I just have a good time in conversation with new for me people.
Algymuff, your opinions count for nothing.
You spout kremlin agitprop, and are incapable of arguing even remotely coherently.
As said previously, you need to learn some real history instead of that Russian rubbish you have been fed.
On addition algyamuff, you link to an article from 2006, in regards a situation that occurred winter of 2008/2009.
Once again your very poor logic skills are showing.
It was mistake. But this article add paints to a picture.
Your articles don’t contain real numbers about economy. Just beautiful words. I argued my opinion.
Looks to me like you just have a good time telling lies and making stuff up. Funny how a goose stepping Russian thinks everybody else is a fascist. If you want to see what a fascist looks like, just look in the mirror.
I called Estonia fascists, because they do heros of men, wich waged war on Hitler side.
http://www.dol.ru/users/lawass/Nazi_e.htm
http://bronze-soldier.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=264&Itemid=51
I think I have foundations.
And EU shut eyes to this shocking facts.
Now you are getting desperate.
Firstly, your Russian state invaded them in 1940-41 as part of the alliance you made with the NAZI’S!!
Secondly, you started killing, raping and deporting them, executing all the cultural leaders and intelligentsia, the usual sort of Russian carry on.
Thirdly, some Estonians fought for Germany, and some fought for Russia, they were in a no win situation trapped between two totalitarian, ethnicly cleansing, genocidal states, Russia & Germany.
By the way, did you Russian morons not realise that they moved the war memorial to the Estonian national military cemetry, where they bury their own dead? It was not an insult at all, unless you are a pea brained Russian imperialist of course.
Another thing, many more Russians fought for the Nazi’s than did Latvians, Estonians, or other ethnic minorities in the USSR.
Russiansin glass houses should not throw stones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Corps
Something like that?
“Thousands of Russian neo-Nazis marched through Moscow on National Unity Day this weekend, joined by pensioners, students and families. Experts believe Russia’s far right gives President Vladimir Putin a welcome justification for his authoritarian political style.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,515380,00.html
Our neo nazi marginals have no official status.
Andrew already mentioned it, but Russia was also on the Nazi’s side at one time. Also not a reliable ally for the U.S. Russian intelligence knew of Japanese moves, but didn’t inform the U.S. With friends like Russia, who needs enemies.
Everybody knew about Japanese moves. T think Americans knew too. Like ” Lusitania” or 11th september.
Americans got gold for lend lease. It was foundation of their development.
Also Americans collaborated with Hitler not officially. Learn history my teachers.
Cyber war is laughable? no, your comment is, look here:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/04/22/estonia-the-fog-of-cyberwar/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6665145.stm
“In Estonia there is no economy” Estonian per capita GDP (2008) is $ 21.200, that of Russia (2008) $ 15.800. The last decennium Estonia had a much higher growth rate than Russia. Russia’s growth is only based on the growth of oil prices. If Estonia doesn’t have any economy, than what to say about Russia.
“Nuclear weapon in Kaliningrad is defense arrangement to threat by NATO. NATO first (for dumps I repeat FIRST) wanted to place rockets near our frontiers.” The planned Nato defense system would be able, in the best case, to shoot a handfull of incoming rockets out of the air. How could that be a threat of the Russian rocket capability of several thousands. And how can installing rockets able to attack targets in Nato countries be an answer on a supposed threat of a rocket defense system able only to intercept incoming rockets. Only a twisted Kremlin apparatchik can have such delusions.
“Ukraine directed by US shut off gas.” It was clearly Putin who ordered the shut off. In case you have missed it, Russian TV channels covered the publicly made order extensively. The shutt off was ordered because of a dispute over paying bills and gas prices between Russia and Ukraine. Normal countries go to court over such disputes. Russia shuts off the gas not only of the country in question, but of several European countries whit which Russia had contracts it had to fullfill. This was a clear case of political blackmail, and thus a threat to Nato countries.
If all Kremlin apologists are as stupid as you, no wonder they try to hire Western PR-companies.
Moscow is sick and on the ropes, the desperation is showing. It is all but over. This is the best example so far of the internal collapse that is coming faster, and bigger then ever. http://windowoneurasia.blogspot.com/
Paul Goble Window on Eurasia: Moscow has ‘Cast Aside’ Siberia, Threatening Russia’s Future. (…)Siberia as “a geographic term,” the two federal districts that extend from the Urals to the Pacific that constitutes 80 percent of Russia’s territory, 22 percent of the country’s population, and is responsible for 30 percent of the country’s gross domestic product.
But the population is declining. Since 1990, five million of its residents have died or left. As a result, the population of Chukotka has fallen by more than half, of Magadan by 40 percent, Kamchatka by 18 percent, and so on. And this is happening despite the wealth of the region and security considerations with regard to China with its enormous population next door.
Mangy and sick RaSSiya is finished!
Magadan has a long history of declining population(s), for various reasons….
Speaking of Russian fascism… EJ has a great story on how fascism flourishes in Russia with overt patronage by the government. I won’t do these articles justice if I try to translate them, but one example is just screaming. During a soccer match Nazi fans rolled out a huge banner with a swastika reading “Happy birthday, grandpa – 120″. Who is grandpa? Adolf Hitler.
http://www.sports.ru/blog/utkin/7797198.html
“neo nazi marginals have no official status”
Your “neo nazi marginals with no official status” are being given official permits to walk in their thousands in the centre of the capital during the national holiday.
While the democratic opposition gets brutally dispersed every time THEY are trying to demonstrate. (And the Nashi “anti-fascists” attack them and leave the neo-Nazis alone.)
Majority of Russians will not accept a nazism. I repeat I have very good relations with my Russian friends.
If the majority of Russians still think Stalin is atrue hero, it is obvoius that they will fall for fascism anytime.
If the majority of Estonians still think Hitler is a true hero, it is obvoius that they will fall for fascism yet.
LA RUSSOPHOBE RESPONDS:
Stop making ridiculous factual claims without offering evidence to support them in the form of links to published material. You are risking being banned from further comment and making Russia look like a nation of apes.
Bull****. Where did you see this poll? So do you think they’re erecting monuments for Hitler everywhere and the local National Socialist party won the last elections?
Or maybe just not liking you and the Soviet occupation (with murders, mass deportations, colonization) = “thinking Hitler is a true hero”?
Yet the majority of Russians actually “think Stalin is a true hero”. It’s true, as reflected in many polls and in the official state policy and the current history teaching as well.
And some think this about Hitler too – and not only bald NS thugs and the grandpas who were in the SS or whatever. Didn’t the well-known and widely-supported Russian “politician” (and “not a clown”, unlike those pesky Ukrainians) Zhrinovsky publicily praise Adolf and was barred from entering Germany?
“This is a documentary about Neo-Nazi gangs in Russia. While the government of Russian Federation accuses Estonia in glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazis in Russia can frankly organize parades in Russian capital city. The brave Russian patriots- skinheads kill 9-years old girls on the streets but Russian government has done nothing expect denying that such problem exist. ”
to larussoturisto:
I didn’t say more ravings than in previous post
And who confronts the totally legal neo-Nazi (um, sorry… “anti-immigration”) demonstrations in Moscow on the national holiday, if they’re “not accepted”?
Maybe the Nashi (Nazi?) “Anti-Fascist Youth Movement”, always ready to start deadly rioting and looting sprees in the foreign countries?
Or at least the OMON, always ready to beat up completely peaceful demonstrators and to torture and murder civilians?
They’re “not accepted”? Not totally tolerated?
“While genuine neo-Nazis will remain on the periphery and never gain widespread popularity in a country that still feels immense pride in its role in the defeat of fascism during the Second World War”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-rise-and-rise-of-russian-nationalism-1678130.html
Read relativly objective article.
Problem of everyday life’s nazism exist elsewhere. It’s form of relations between superethnoses.
“Periphery”?
About half Neo-Nazis in the world (some 70,000) – it’s “periphery” of what? (Even this infamous Israeli neo-Nazi gang turned out to be a be young “Soviet” Jews who thought they were Russians, so they loved Hitler and hated Jews.)
Operating legally and in plain view, only attacks (at least dozens of murders every year, even large bombings) are illegal – at least officially, because Moscow police prefers to not act (or even is helping and aiding them) or when is acting it’s usually merely “hooliganism” and not racist violence.
Where are Nashi “anti-fascists”? (I know, busy rioting and looting in Estonia and in their paramilitary summer camps where they learn to hate America and breed for the fatherland.)
“Superethnos” is not even a real word. People in normal countries call it “multiethnic society” (like the USA, France, Britain or modern Germany).
This is getting ridiculous, but, 76 comments arguing with aglyamoff is another wasted thread.
It’s past the point of boring and it’s getting really stupid.
“Just like Russians, to come up with a very for a very simple problem”
It’s masterpiece. Where did you take this?
We are or very smart to invent complicated explanation or idiotic apes. Tertium non datur.
Let me add one more thing:
It seems to me that every provocation by a Russian troll that plays fast and loose with facts and has a Putinesque attitude doesn’t require a hair trigger response.
It really ultimately cheapens the quality of a blog.
I’m sure there are many like me that as soon as I see the same old parties ruining as thread I’m turned off.
Penny,
You’re right, as usual. There are times it’s easy to resist, then other times something just has to be refuted. Plus I was at work and bored :-)
“I was at work and bored”
analogously
That is because the Russian econmy obviously is non-existing.
I don’t know exactly, but if they talk with me, may be it’s interest for them.
Grani had an article today that is addressed to Sharikovs, La Russophobe, and to me personally. As usually, my translator skills are clearly lacking, so I’ll just quote a few key points. To Sharikovs (the author calls them patriots) the author offers the following anthem:
Сквозь ветры западные злые
В коттедже, в офисе, в избе
Нас греют органы родные
С названьем кратким “Эфэсбе”.
Димон с Вованом все осилят,
Распилят, перетрут, спасут.
Вперед, Единая Россия!
Пусть несогласные сосут
Трансатлантическое вымя,
Шакаля, хрюкая, визжа.
Но хрен им: все звончей над ними
Свистит державная вожжа.
Иного нам не надо рая,
Покуда органы ГБ,
Как бы резвяся и играя,
Нам нежно водят по губе…
Russophobe is anyone who notices anything ugly in Russia. And everything that patriot doesn’t like is ugly. So anybody that takes a picture of homeless near the train station, or reports the accident where a building fell and people died, is by definition a russophobe.
And why is it personal? The people that ignore the patriots (neither agree, nor hate – just ignore) are, in patriots’ view “smarter than everybody else”. I heard “you are smarter than everybody else” since I was in junior high school. At some point I started to enjoy this, although I am sure patriots meant it as an insult. You can IM me (Yahoo or Skype) at YMHEE_BCEX :)
I have no idea why WordPress rejected my comment… I didn’t use any expletives :( I’ll try in pieces – if LR approves the full one, these chopped ones, obviously, can be deleted.
All I said was that penny is absolutely right (as always). No point in arguing with Unkneeling Russians
Now that the Russians attempt to overthrow the current government of Georgia by intervening to protect the street protests seems to be failing ingloriously (due to the government ignoring them), it looks like they are setting up a new reason to invade Georgia.
http://www.rferl.org/content/Georgia_Denies_Existence_Of_Chechen_Resistance_Fighters_On_Its_Territory/1617592.html
And so much for “Independance”
Russia is in effect annexing two regions of Georgia.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5252102/Russia-accused-of-annexation-of-Georgia-provinces.html
“Moscow’s moves are ostensibly meant to help Abkhazia and South Ossetia get their bearings as newly established independent countries. But Moscow political analyst Dmitry Shusharin says that, ironically, the two regions have seen their autonomy reduced since Russia recognized their independence.
“Russia has formed along its borders something like the sort of entities that exist today in Somalia and in some other failed African or Latin American states — sort of ‘islands’ that are ruled not even by local princes or tribal leaders, but by Russian military and security people posing as such,” Shusharin says.”
http://www.rferl.org/content/Russia_Steps_Up_Cooperation_With_Breakaway_Georgian_Regions/1619281.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhjkccOJCBo